An issue with 'Dual Survival'

The show isn't any different than Man vs. Wild.

The producers set up scenarios and let the "presenters" do their thing.

Bear runs everywhere. Dave and Cody talk back and forth like a married couple.

In both shows they hunt for food, scale rock faces, build rafts and go down rivers/waterfalls.

People need to look elsewhere for survival instruction. These shows are survival entertainment. If people want a more documentary feel to their survival entertainment, look to Les Stroud. Although his show still had the support crew and scenarios that Les wanted to show. Too bad Discovery was going to make him put the disclaimer up like Man vs. Wild and Dual Survival has before their shows, or Les still might be making his "Survivorman" show.

I like all three shows. And no doubt, all four guys are good people.
 
Gossman Knives said:
I don't get all the complaining about this show on the different forums. If you don't like it, just stop watching it. Man vs. Wild, I dislike and never watch it.
I really enjoy Dual Survival and look forward to it every week. I hope it continues. Looking forward to Man, Woman, Wild also. Next Friday at 9:00pm EST.
Scott
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I like this show, even if a bit repetitive. I have gotten at least one thing new off of each episode - and that is enough for me. I haven't gotten something off of each of the other survival shows I have watched.
 
Another overdramatized, overhyped, overplayed and overmarketed Discovery perversion of what previously was a great institution. Ah well... nothing new there.
 
If its getting repetitive then to me that's survival...think about it. No matter where you are there are only a few things that are needed, shelter, water, fire, and food. With that being said I wish they would stay in one place instead of walking out. Set up a good camp, and show us how to survive when you can't walk out to civilization. Les did that in most shows but he was out for 7 days. I can see the logistic of why Cody and Dave don't do this, seems like only 2 cameras and batteries and flim only last so long.

But really its just a TV show so sit back and enjoy, or get off your butt and get to the woods.
 
After watching Dual Survivor, it appears (to me) that Cody is out of his element in most of the environments they have been to (That's why Dave has to take the lead.). He is too into his "lifestyle" to realize that he is learning first hand why shoes were invented. He likes to tell us how ancient man did it like this, what he doesn't tell us is, ancient man wore shoes of some form in those environments, as well as pants and other forms of clothing. Friggin' Otzy had shoes on for the love of Pete (Who is this Pete and why am I asking for his love :confused:.) Hey Cody, necessity is the mother of invention.
I like Cody, but he is a little too selective with his idea of primitive. If he wants to be "primitive", he needs to ditch the Mora and go with obsidian, off with the modern clothes and on with the animal skins.

Dave (on the other hand) seems completely comfortable in any situation. His training has him far more prepared for the unexpected than Cody's.
 
Drinking unpurified water, traveling by raft, over waterfalls and rapids, setting up traps without cordage (but wait he did have cordage all the sudden) and catching a suspiciously clean pig in a matter of minutes....

The Grylli Vanilli meter is pegged.

Too bad. It had so much potential. Back to my Ron Hood Woodsmaster videos.
 
Yes, I agree that Dave seems more comfortable..but drinking unfiltered water in Laos is just nuts. I thought he was acting a bit rash right there.
Cody is pretty good at teaching the camera, but he doesnt seem to do to well for himself. I dont get it, If he teaches folks about survival, and then buts himself in danger (foot wear) on TV...I say its bull.
 
i think its the style of the show that makes cody looks bad. they want to promote the risky adventure stuff so dave takes center stage. and all that moving around fast pace is gonna be harder for cody.

the basics for survival is almost the same. go to water, find civilization. so i guess that will be repetitive. I do like the idea of starting out at different points. maybe they can do that for one episode, like the splitting up thing.
 
I like the show, and am glad it has not panned out to be adversarial as the promos suggested.
 
Great show. Whether I like or dislike any of them I find there is ALWAYS something I can take away from them. Then again I'm a city boy. :D
 
Quite disappointing.
As often the "show" focuses more the two dudes chit-chat than on actual techniques.
Rather than having them pointlessly arguing I'd rather see each one of them perform separately and have their techniques compared in a mythbuster way.

Oh well, would probably be too educational for the average ADHD TV viewer.
 
I think Cody needs to go get some training on the importance of proper gear/clothing/footwear, and also how not to be so whiny.
 
Take it for what it is: two guys offering different perspectives on the same situation.

If someone was to dop a "real" survival type program, it'd cost a LOT more.

Here's what would be great:

A primitive guy like Cody Lundin or Christopher Nyerges
A "tactical" guy like Dave Canterbury
A modern guy -- can't think of one off hand, but one that uses modern gear mostly for his survival.
And a guy that mixes the three like Ron Hood.

Then, you have them go out opn a long term survival trip, and a short term survival trip in a given climate. Say one week for the short, and one month for the long.

Have them work and be filmed separately.

Then, have them get together at the end and critique each other, find what techniques worked best, and have them brainstorm on how each could have done better with what they were working with -- i.e. no "you should have used my gear" crap.

Good thing is, you'd get some real info, and your average Joe could see that each approach really does work, and it's up to the person to decide what methods he prefers.

Bad thing is, it'd take a whole season to cover one climate/location.

I doubt it'd be done, because you'd have to pay at least 4 film crews, the 4 guys not only for both the survival phases, but for the debrief and critical phase.
 
I really like Cody's sense of humor and his attention to detail is great. Dave is out to get the job done no matter what.
Ron Hood was originally suppose to be involved with Bear Grylls on that original show. He worked with Discovery in the beginning of the show but it didn't work out. I can't remember all the details but Ron wasn't pleased with what the outcome was going to end up being for that show.
Scott
 
I've enjoyed the shows so far, it is a lot better than watching Lavern & Shirley reruns, crime shows and sit coms..

I know the show has to draw in viewers but I would like to see far more "how to" and skills lessons.
 
I'm still enjoying the show, and I like how the show highlights the differences between Dave and Cody. For me the show has reinforced my eclectic approach of mixing elements of primitive, modern and tactical (my strange Mountain Man-Military-Mountaineering Mix).

I do think that the basic premise of the show is more tailored toward Dave's style than Cody's. Cody's skills are oriented more toward living in the wilderness, whereas Dave's are more about getting out of the wilderness -- do the mission. This results in Dave taking center stage more often than not. I bet if the point was just to stay somewhere for a week plus and thrive, Cody would come off better.

I have to admit that the firesaw was pretty cool. I was impressed.
 
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