An issue with Spyderco CPMS30V.

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:IV: said:
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I understand where you are coming from. People get passionate about things around here.

Generally it is never advisable to touch your edges to glass or metal of any sort if you expect them to not show damage. There are a few people here trying to offer solid advice and help you to understand what we have learned and what works well for those of us that occasionally need to abuse our edges. A larger bevel angle will generally lead to a stronger edge that takes more abuse to damage...at a small cost to cutting performance (or gain in performance if you are analyzing the 500th cut instead of the 5th).

Welcome to the forums, just try and keep a good attitude and these guys might teach you some great stuff! (check out my sig line)
 
Steel is extremely diverse. You may want to convert to a more tough blade steel compared to a high hardness stainless steel. If you plan on prying with your knife go ahead but s30v is probably not the way to go. If your going to stick with spyderco do as most have said and change the geometry of the edge. Good luck!
 
:IV: said:
Let me put this as plain and simple as I can possibly make it for those of you in the peanut gallery.

The nail wasn't in a stud.

I was more moving it than prying it. I'd never use my knife to pry out a nail that was properly driven into wood. Also, my question was answered and the problem remedied a page back. I have no need for this thread anymore unless you guys want to tell me more about what I don't know about my knife steel that hasn't already been spoken about, or to bash me more for moving a nail out of drywall with a native (which is about as harmful as dropping a kitchen fork on the blade by accident).
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Lol - sorry. Didn't mean to aggravate you and no offense was intended. Now I want a peanut, dang it.

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S30V is really one of the better user steels around IMO, I use it more than any other steel and haven't had any issues that would be called more than normal wear and tear or different from other steels.
 
:IV: said:
...*sigh*

Why wouldn't it? Metal exists and mistakes happen, also the nail wasn't in a stud and wasn't a threat to my knife's tip. I just couldn't grab it and needed enough of the head to get it out with so I used my knife to pull it out a bit.
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Um why the he'll would you pry with the edge?????? If you absolutely have to do some prying use the damn spine side.... I have done light prying and had my edge contact steel and aluminum with the same native. Usually did not get bad edge rolling, but it does dull it down right quick.

It's more edge geometry than steel. Both of those knives are thinner behind the edge than many other S30V blades.... With an edge that thin, nearly any steel will roll in those conditions.
 
It wasn't exactly intentional. More or less it was a spur of the moment sort of thing.
 
Admittedly, I didn't read the 3 pages, but: Don't pry nails with your Native or Sage. Use an Extrema Ratio or a Strider or a ZT if you wanna do that...
 
JNewell said:
You are forgetting the constitutional right to be brain-dead and blame others. ;(
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I also forgot the proportional ratio of the amount of jerks in any online community is relative to the amount in any other community. I need to remember to keep my standards and hopes low so I don't get disappointed wherever else I decide to post aside from bladeforums.
 
Hey :IV:,

Welcome to the forum. Sorry some are being harsh. Please keep in mind that some are sensitive to what they feel is irresponsible knife use. Not only can some uses damage the edge, some can damage the entire knife, the user, and in some cases they can damage the already questionable public opinion of knives (I have watched many times where someone insists on using a knife for everything and driving others to believe they are an irresponsible knife handler that poses a danger to themself and others)

That said, I urge you to try and understand that some of the people speaking harshly to you are pillars in this community that may or may not prove helpful to you in the future.

In other words take their statements under advisement and try not to tick off the wrong people. (unless you have no value present or future for this community).

Respectfully,
Ken (aka unit)
 
Whenever the sharks smell blood in the water, they all have to circle. Even if one person squares the issue, you get ten people who have to add their two cents despite their "points" having been made long before they clicked the reply button. Don't sweat it, IV. The few snarky remarks here aren't representative of bladeforum's majority.

But watch them blades around metal!
 
Back to the original question of S30V, I got a few nicks in a Sage III. It was on the factory edge and after I sharpened it (19 degrees per side), I have not had any problems. I have heard the getting to good metal explanation, Spyderco's grind explanation, not sure what it is but only had the chip problem once. I also had my Caly 3 with ZDP-189 chip and again after I put my own edge on it (15 degrees per side on that) I have not had any problems with it. I do not recall doing anything to either one that should warrant a chip esp the Caly 3, but it happens I guess. I find sharpening quite nice and relaxing and then rewarding when I am done. I now put my own edge on a brand new knife before I use it. I got a Sage II for Christmas and put my own edge on it right away and it has not chipped.
 
:IV:, your question has been addressed quite succinctly by some of the most experienced knife aficionados in the forum. Perhaps in this instance, the diplomatic response should be, 'I understand, thank-you.' And, for the record, I have come across as an ass-hat more than a couple of times, but I am working on it. ;)
 
I put a 40° micro bevel over the top of my very thin Spyderco Military's edge when I first got it from Golden CO. It was the 1st knife that whittled hair that I've ever hand sharpened and it did that with the micro-bevel. I love it. I'll never part with that S30V cutting machine. :thumbup:

All of my knives get marks here and there from hard use or contact with metal objects, that's why we have sharpeners and strops - to get rid of them. I wouldn't worry about it and use them & enjoy them!
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jill jackson said:
You have to realize, the edge may be a lot harder than the metal you contact, but it's also very thin.
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Yeah really, hitting metal with a knife edge won't usually end up well. :D

When one uses knives long enough certian things can tend to happen from time to time as we all know. :)

I have hit metal more than a few times myself over the years.
 
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