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390beretta

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Mr. Glesser, I just bought one of your knives (the Resilience), my first Spyderco. It's absolutely superb! I bought it because I don't like carrying my Chris Reeve so much because I might lose it. (I also own a bunch of other custom and high-end knives, some fixed, some folders, so I bought this one for an EDC, and at the price....if I lose it, I don't care all that much) My opinion has changed...I'd hate to lose it!

However, I have a couple of questions:
I was disappointed to see that it was made in China.....I've had very bad experiences with Chinese products. (not that that fact sways my opinion of the knife), but is there any way to tell which knives are made where? Since this is my first Spyderco, I thought they were all made in Golden....or Seki, Japan. Can you tell us customers and future customers what's going on?

I'd also appreciate some comments on the steel you use. There seem to be so many! I like to sharpen.....and I love a really sharp knife. I have a "Sharpmaker" and have used it for many years; recently expanded into Japanese water-stones....still learning. By the way, years ago, when I bought the sharpmaker, two of the "ears" that hold the bottom stones broke off. I called and was told that new boxes for the sharpmaker were not available....wondering why?

Finally, one last question: As stated before, I love a really sharp knife. In your opinion, are the ultra-fine stones worth the investment? I guess the same question re: the diamond? However, I've watched all of your videos of you making a dull knife really sharp.....comments appreciated.

Again Mr. Glesser, I love the knife I just bought! Will likely be a future Spyderco customer......and I absolutely congratulate you and your company; you've more than met my expectations!!
 
CoO is stamped into the blade of every knife, a details photo would tell you, also the online spyderco catalog lists CoO for every product as would any forthcoming retailer.

The budget series (tenacious series) are the only knives made in China and they all use 8Cr13MoV, use to some were 440C but l current are 8Cr13MoV.
 
JTR357 said:
Japanese & Taiwanese Spyderco fan right here.:jaded:
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Personally, I'm a huge fan of anything coming out of the Thaichung, Taiwan factory. In my opinion, they're Spyderco's best designs, collaborations and highest quality products. I have nearly every current Spyderco knife from that plant.
 
The type of steel Spyderco uses in each knife is readily available online, as are the countries they're made in. This information is also laser engraved onto the blade tang of each individual knife.
And, with almost no exceptions, information on the performance and composition of every blade steel Spyderco uses is also readily available online.
 
This forum has great information. The Spyderco website also has a forum. Between the two you can learn most everything Spyderco.
 
JTR357 said:
Japanese & Taiwanese Spyderco fan right here.:jaded:
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I second that! All my favs are From the Taichung Taiwan factory. But boo on the spyderco warranty service on their foreign made knives. Their warranty on their USA made knives is much better
 
Just received a Domino which has dents and splices of titanium sticking out the liner poking into your hand. I think my Domino skipped quality control, even a blind person could feel that this isn't right. First Taiwan knife and directly a lemon, encouraging....
 
maniac2003 said:
Just received a Domino which has dents and splices of titanium sticking out the liner poking into your hand. I think my Domino skipped quality control, even a blind person could feel that this isn't right. First Taiwan knife and directly a lemon, encouraging....
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Wow, that's wild. I guess you won't be getting anymore Taiwan knives right? And every time an opinion on them is asked you're gonna share your bad experience. That's too bad because I've had a big sample size of Taiwan made knives and they have been top notch. Oh well.
 
Well, I hope it's a one time f up from Taiwan. Knive is going back to the dealer, they send me a new one.
 
Just received a Domino which has dents and splices of titanium sticking out the liner poking into your hand. I think my Domino skipped quality control, even a blind person could feel that this isn't right. First Taiwan knife and directly a lemon, encouraging....
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Maniac2003, strange situation indeed! Is there any way for you to put some pictures up for us ?

Joe
 
RamZar said:
Personally, I'm a huge fan of anything coming out of the Thaichung, Taiwan factory. In my opinion, they're Spyderco's best designs, collaborations and highest quality products. I have nearly every current Spyderco knife from that plant.
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Agreed! The best Spyderco' s come from Taiwan and it' s really time for the knife industry and enthusiasts to stop viewing Taiwanese knives as low-quality and cheap:)
 
The Mastiff said:
Maniac2003, strange situation indeed! Is there any way for you to put some pictures up for us ?

Joe
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I made pictures on the evening I received the knife. So not the best quality, but I will try to take some better ones for you all to look at.
 
Hi Beretta,

Thanx for the interest, support and thanx for taking the time to inquire.

390beretta said:
However, I have a couple of questions:
I was disappointed to see that it was made in China.....I've had very bad experiences with Chinese products. (not that that fact sways my opinion of the knife), but is there any way to tell which knives are made where? Since this is my first Spyderco, I thought they were all made in Golden....or Seki, Japan. Can you tell us customers and future customers what's going on?
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Sorry for your disappointment. With a significant majority of todays knives being made in China, it must be accepted that we, too have to have a "cost effective" offering. I might point out that you did purchase the Resilience because of the lower cost.

All of the countries of origin are clearly posted on our website and in our catalog. Also, in compliance with federal law, the country of origin is marked on the product itself. Not on the box or a piece of paper in the box. We believe that it is important to be honest withour customers.

We make knives in Golden. We have 2 makers in Seki, Japan (well, really 3, but one is a one man shop that will be retiring soon and we try to keep him working). We have been working with the 2 for 33 and 25 years respectively. I worked with the fathers and my son is now working with their sons and grandsons. We have 2 makers in Taiwan. One major supplier in Taichung and another that will also soon be retiring. We have 2 makers in Maniago Italy. We also have 2 main and 2 minor makers in China in order to provide the cost effective models.

390beretta said:
I'd also appreciate some comments on the steel you use. There seem to be so many! I like to sharpen.....and I love a really sharp knife. I have a "Sharpmaker" and have used it for many years; recently expanded into Japanese water-stones....still learning.
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There is a small market of what we call "steel junky's" or "Steel heads" that understand the chemistry and processing of "boutique blade steels" makes a difference in the performance of those steels when applied to an edge. The "edge" itself is a woundrous thing and is the most important part of the knife. Since Spyderco is at the high performance end of the market and we always have interest in improving the performance, it is to our benefit (and the steel junky's) to be at the front end of that development.

Keep working on learning to sharpen on a flat stone. It is a worthy skill to develop.

390beretta said:
By the way, years ago, when I bought the sharpmaker, two of the "ears" that hold the bottom stones broke off. I called and was told that new boxes for the sharpmaker were not available....wondering why?
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If you were to send in your sharpener, we would have replaced the bad parts. Just sending out or selling bases runs us into trouble because of the companies that produce similar "less expensive" stones or sell seconds of their stones. Some will try to "build" their own set at a lower cost, but the base still has our name on it and we would prefer that no one can easily use our base for other stones.

390beretta said:
Finally, one last question: As stated before, I love a really sharp knife. In your opinion, are the ultra-fine stones worth the investment? I guess the same question re: the diamond? However, I've watched all of your videos of you making a dull knife really sharp.....comments appreciated.
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They aren't necessary if you just want a sharp knife. If they were, we would make them part of the set. They are primarily for blade aficianados, what we call "afi's" that want to push the envelope on what they or a steel can do.

Again Mr. Glesser, I love the knife I just bought! Will likely be a future Spyderco customer......and I absolutely congratulate you and your company; you've more than met my expectations!! [/QUOTE]

Thanx much. :)

sal
 
maniac2003 said:
Just received a Domino which has dents and splices of titanium sticking out the liner poking into your hand. I think my Domino skipped quality control, even a blind person could feel that this isn't right. First Taiwan knife and directly a lemon, encouraging....
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Hi Maniac,

You can also send the knife to us. That gives us the opportunity to study the problem. We would also replair or replace the knife for you. Sorry for the hassle.

It's difficult to keep in mind that these knives are made and inspected by people. Regardless of how skilled they may be, it is not possible to be perfect all of the time. How many uf us could pass the test?

sal
 
ShepardCC said:
I second that! All my favs are From the Taichung Taiwan factory. But boo on the spyderco warranty service on their foreign made knives. Their warranty on their USA made knives is much better
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I've had great experience with the warranty on the Southard. I totally screwed it up and Spyderco took care of it. For $25, it's quite amazing.
 
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