Analyzing Brian's scenarios

koyote

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Brian keeps putting out these scenarios, so here's some stuiff I've determined from thinking about it. This is supposed to be a concise remonder/checklist/planning thread


1: My luggage needs to be readily identifiable, possibly through brush.

2: any checked knives/survival gear needs to be in a REALLY TOUGH and BRIGHT case. Think Neon pink gun case. (If I pack along a black powder pistol wherever I go, I can have the case locked)

3: Carry a firestarter that can be taken on a plane.

4: A one handed folder or small fixed blade accessible to the off hand in a tight situation needs to be carried. Neckers aren't bad choices here. (Okay, actually, I learned that diving back in the 90s)

5: the SAK outrider is justified- the saw blade is long enough, the lockblade is openable with one hand if you work it a bit. I'd prefer to find a 5.5 inch folding saw, but we'll see.

6: reference cards for anywhere you go would be handy to have IN ADVANCE. I can extend this with a battery operated palm or other PDA, spare batteries, tough case, and a lot of data. These days a top of the line calculator is the best choice (they take up to 2GB of SD storage and can read text files) for battery life, durability, and storage.
 
Excellent ideas, Christof! I'm glad the threads got you thinking, and thanks for sharing those thoughts. It's what I hoped to accomplish by posting them!
 
good points koyote...

good things to keep in mind.

when travelling by bus up here for a vacation, i had a duffel bag i guess weighing around 90 pounds...five or six big blades, a handful of smaller fixed blades, a couple of folding knives. all my camping gear (shelter, blankets, etc), food and water. the nice thing about the bus is that there is no restriction really on baggage, so you can bring all sorts of things and its right there under you in the compartments.

in a plane its a little bit different...

but anyways, back on topic. just a thought that occured to me...perhaps some rudimentary survival instructions or a book or two should be included. no telling who is going to survive the crash, and you have about the same chance as anyone else. hopefully if you don't make it someone will have the idea to go through the luggage and hit the goldmine that is your luggage. if you include some guides it could go a long way in helping them out.
 
Doesnt leatherman make an airline safe multitool?

What firestarters are safe for air travel?
 
Good post. I don't know if there is a firestarter that will pass through security on a flight, but if you know first hand that there is one, please share it.

The idea of having a good set of survival instructions in the gear is excellent.
 
j, leatherman does make one...i don't know how much good it would do in the woods since it doesn't have a knife or a saw, but in the case of something like a plane crash it could be handy for canibalizing equipment onboard to make new tools.

i think that firesteels are allowed, and strikers can be improvised or i think some strikers would probably be allowed...depending on how fierce they look.
 
I carry a small 1/8" ferrocium rod in my wallet. Never got taken from me during flying time.
 
My luggage always has orange surveyors tape ribbons on it to help identify it-- but I am seeing more and more of this in airports.

I always carry a good strobe light SDE5 right now. A plane crash or a hiking string of tourists are going to be missed and searched for- the strobe just improves my odds of being found- a space blanket makes a dandy reflector when stretched over a frame of saplings.

2Door
 
:thumbup: I might have to invest in one of those "airline safe":rolleyes: multitools, and a smaller ferro rod to pack in my wallet. Brian they ever ask you what it is?
 
jw, never. it fits in the fold and almost seems like a hinge made as part of the wallet. not planned that way, it just found itself there and I left it.
 
My cheap magnesium block/rod hasn't been an issue the 6 times I've boarded a plane with it. It's attached to a compass. I've been "randomly" selected 4 times to be completely searched, and it's never been an issue.
 
I'm thinking how about I just pack Koyote:thumbup:

Not only can he save your a$$, but he makes some great knives to:thumbup::D
 
After going through how to survive an airplane crash, I decided to check the TSA website and see what all I could carry that might prove to be useful. This is a partial list of permitted carryons was pulled directly from the gov't website:http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm

bug spray
cig cutter
corkscrew
eyeglass kit
knitting needles
nail clippers
nail files
safety razors
metal scissors under 4"
tweezers
umbrella
cane
screwdrivers, wrenches, pliers, and tools under 7"


I see a number of possibilities for survival that can be in your carryon luggage. We have talked about cannabalizing the hold, but if that is not an option one could be pretty well prepared if thay grabbed a few items from this list. In my next post, I will go through a few uses I came up with.

PeACE
Dougo
 
bug spray-quite obvious, but can also be used for fire starting if in aeresol form

cig cutter-remove the blade and you have a decent cutting edge for drilling, etc

corkscrew-drilling, can be used to puncture just about anything in the body of a plane

eyeglass kit-grind the flathead screwdriver on a rock for an awl, the tip could also serve as a rough needle if sharpened and removed from the body.

knitting needles-I think one could be used as the bow to start a fire.

nail clippers-cutting wire and line

nail files-another knife

safety razors-more knives

metal scissors under 4"-knives, used to cannabalize plane

tweezers-first aid

umbrella-semi-shelter, water collection, possibly for signaling

cane- splint, walking stick, tinder if necessary

screwdrivers, wrenches, pliers, and tools under 7"-you could carry so many tools that the plane could actually be turned into useful material rather quickly in even moderately skilled hands. I was thinking of a very basic set: pliers, hammer, screwdrivers and maybe a small socket set.


Just a few of my ideas...any others?

PeACE
Dougo
 
okay, I want a victorinox compact model with pliers instead of knife blade. I have a thing for vic scissors since they are ambidextrous.

Bamboo knitting needles- better for a bow, all around handy.

I'd be interested in doing myself up a good folding nail file out of 15n20 hardened a bit soft, and a diamond hone. Maybe even do it as a friction folder with pink handles.

Excellent job on the list, BTW.
 
koyote said:
okay, I want a victorinox compact model with pliers instead of knife blade. I have a thing for vic scissors since they are ambidextrous.

Bamboo knitting needles- better for a bow, all around handy.

I'd be interested in doing myself up a good folding nail file out of 15n20 hardened a bit soft, and a diamond hone. Maybe even do it as a friction folder with pink handles.

Excellent job on the list, BTW.
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1. you build the file, I'll buy one from ya.

2. I didn't even think of bamboo needeles, I was thinking of the metal ones.

3. I am intrigued by the Vic you speak of.

4. The list is the product of being bored off my arse for 9 hours today. I work security at a bank.

PeACE
Dougo
 
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