Analyzing Brian's scenarios

The nail file is on my List. But I have to work out the kepharts first. I was gonna wait on folding anything until winter... we'll see.

The victorinox compact is a really nice model, very minimalistic while maintaining full size. Knife, can/bottle opener, corkscrew with eyeglass screwdriver, scissors, pen, tweezers, toothpick. (anyone aver find a flint rod that size?)

You'd have to hand customize to take the knife blade out and put pliers in, unfortunately, but victorinox does make some "airplane" models of some of the knives. I think there's an officer's model with flashlight and scissors and no knife blade.
 
koyote said:
The nail file is on my List. But I have to work out the kepharts first. I was gonna wait on folding anything until winter... we'll see.

The victorinox compact is a really nice model, very minimalistic while maintaining full size. Knife, can/bottle opener, corkscrew with eyeglass screwdriver, scissors, pen, tweezers, toothpick. (anyone aver find a flint rod that size?)

You'd have to hand customize to take the knife blade out and put pliers in, unfortunately, but victorinox does make some "airplane" models of some of the knives. I think there's an officer's model with flashlight and scissors and no knife blade.
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As far as building knives of any sort, I so wish I had the place to do that kind of stuff. I don't know why, but I've always wanted to try it.

I am looking into 'airplane safe' tools as I type.

Also, I have decided to hunt down and procure Pelican cases in blaze orange if possible. That way my luggage will be found and in good condition.

Another note is to possibly put a list of uses for said materials in your carryon. That way, if you meet your demise on the way down, someone else could possibly save some lives. Save lives even though you are dead...Just another thought.
 
koyote, on that nailfile idea...

you could basically make a friction folding knife, including primary bevels etc, and just hatch it to file...then all you would have to do is grind an edge bevel in...it would save alot of work over making a rectangle file into a knife...
 
Siguy-

I was thinking of a 1/16 with a very light single cut on one side as a nail file. I think rather than putting in something recognizable as a primary bevel (TSA, minimum wage, nuff said) I'd just round the edges. with a coarse DMT pocket hone it should be a matter of 15-20 minutes to put a decent edge on. I was thinking of tempering up at 400 or 425. Going just a bit softer than a regular blade (this is 15N20) I dunno if it would have to go 500.
 
The file thing is of definite interest. I may put some of my design knowledge to work tomorrow whilst I am bored off my arse at my job and see what other neat toys I can think of that are improvised.
 
I have one question for all of your survival training how come I never have seen mentioned any thing about a hand held ham radio. the one I carry will receive from .5 mhz to 999 mhz, it covers 11 different bands and will transmit on 4 bands. It will cover the FRS, GRMS, MURS and 4 four amateur bands for transmitting. it has a full 5 watts and gets out very well. not only could you use one to call for help, but listen to radio and tv broadcasts. The thing only weighs about a pound and a half, and with one extra battery pack could be used for up to 3 days. Just some thing to think about from the Amateur Radio Emergency Service, Emergency Coordinator for my county. I could give you lots of scenarios where they could help and it is very easy now to get licensed for ham radio. Doug This could be your best tool in the tool box.
 
DPKnives said:
I have one question for all of your survival training how come I never have seen mentioned any thing about a hand held ham radio. the one I carry will receive from .5 mhz to 999 mhz, it covers 11 different bands and will transmit on 4 bands. It will cover the FRS, GRMS, MURS and 4 four amateur bands for transmitting. it has a full 5 watts and gets out very well. not only could you use one to call for help, but listen to radio and tv broadcasts. The thing only weighs about a pound and a half, and with one extra battery pack could be used for up to 3 days. Just some thing to think about from the Amateur Radio Emergency Service, Emergency Coordinator for my county. I could give you lots of scenarios where they could help and it is very easy now to get licensed for ham radio. Doug This could be your best tool in the tool box.
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I think there are a few reasons for a lack of HAM mention:

1. Assumption of cell phone availibility.

2. The airplane thread in particular, are they allowed on planes in carryon?

3. It seems like a great deal of the focus was on improvising tools, not having them readily available.

The radio is a great idea, though. I wonder about cost and all of that. I do not want to de-rail, so maybe another thread relating to HAM should be started.

PeACE
Dougo
 
Doug you might be right on a lot of what you just said. I am not sure about them in carry on, as far as cell phones dont even think they can save your life in most cases I have done a lot of talking to people and they all say I HAVE A CELL PHONE, believe me do not count on them. As far as having them readily available I carry one most of the time just part of my EDC.
 
Trust me, I do not rely on a cell phone for much more than something else I can forget in the morning on the way to work. They are sporadically effective at best. I am curious about some form of shortwave system for airline transit. Koyote, I believe, mentioned rigging a radio out of airplane eqpt. The focus was more on improv, but you certainly make a great point. Do you mind if I take that and start a new thread?

PeACE
Dougo
 
Just a random thought on edged multitools:

What if one were to grossly blunt the edge and call it a screwdriver, an awl, etc ?
Then a small file to reprofile, a stone to sharpen, both carried in the same belt pouch...

Hell, even a little electric job to get it close and save some time. It's all pretty compact and the initial work could be delegated to someone who needs some focus.

Random thought...
 
The air craft band is done on Am it is around 118 to about 122 mhz you would not need much for an antenna for it, it could have an antenna as short as 19 inches and work.
 
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