Ancient Weapons Collaboration - Roush/Panchenko WIP

Glad to see the thread start Scott.AS a fan of both your's and Serge's work, i will follow this thread with much enthusiasim!
 
WOW all I can do is parrot everyone else's comments on how inspiring both of your work has been to me and how excited I am to see this collaberation take shape and starting with one of my all time favorite forms as well!!
Scott can you give a little additional info on the hand saw steel for the nickle content? Is it a older saw or newer to get the nickle?
Chris
 
Thanks John...

Chris.... The bandsaw stuff is pretty new... the hand saws are probably early and mid-1900s. Since I haven't done any analysis, I can only guess based on the tendency for them to have nickel. But they also rust in a way that nickel bearing steels do... sort of rusty with shiny spots in between. Based on the etching, there are some nickel layers.
 
Okay.... I will be sending Serge the Blade today or tomorrow... before I dissolve it away in the etch tank. (note to self: do not sharpen before doing deep etching if you don't want to dissolve edge and have to re-grind it:o)

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I did a short etch in the end in my copper contaminated tank to give very subtle highlights to match the copper Serge will put in the handle.
 
Wow. Subscribed. "Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade" lol...great blog
 
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Talk about blood grooves! :cool: I love that deep etch!! :thumbup:
 
Very nice, the faint copper in the etch looks great, and it's great to know Serge has some copper in mind for the handle treatment. Can't wait to see this unfold...
 
ScottRoush said:
I did a short etch in the end in my copper contaminated tank to give very subtle highlights to match the copper Serge will put in the handle.
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Scott - I wonder if you could expand on this process a little me.

- What type of etchant are you using.... ferric ch?
- Is your "copper contaminated tank" one that is just used to etch copper and has acquired some copper residue in the solution?
- How does the copper become affixed to the wrought iron during the blade etch?

This is a very interesting project by two extraordinary craftsman. I'm eager to see what Serge does with this blade.
 
Thanks folks...

Just to let people know... the blade is en route to Serge. He will pick this thread up when he gets it. Unless upon setting his eyes on the blade he scraps it.

Bigblue: I have ferric chloride that I've accidentally exposed to small amounts of copper by dipping blades with copper guards in a bit too deep. Rather than throw it away, I can use it give coppery patinas to blades. If you leave it too long in the coppery stuff... it can really coat the steel! It doesn't take much to contaminate. As to adhering to the steel... I don't know the exact mechanism other than the fact that it is basically 'electroplating' itself.
 
Triton said:
Please don't! :) I'm sure you are already aware of this but the whole concept of "blood grooves" is a misnomer.
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I know. :cool: It was a little tounge in cheek.
 
BenR.T. said:
I know. :cool: It was a little tounge in cheek.
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Thank goodness! :) You wouldn't believe the people that will argue to the death about the usage of "blood grooves" I just couldn't let the blood grooves thing go in a thread that's going to be about historical weapons. Sorry about not recognizing the tongue in cheek tone of the post. :o
 
Just to let people know... the blade is en route to Serge. He will pick this thread up when he gets it. Unless upon setting his eyes on the blade he scraps it.
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LOL or instead, refuse to send the knife back to you no matter what you say:)
 
So here is the next piece.... a Germanic Warhammer as seen in Conan the Barbarian. After putting all the work into the hammer head, I was very disappointed in Serge's handle. Not even a copper pin.

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