And Then There Were Two

I guess it will be my small PJ inkosi and my large 21 insingo with micarta

lots of other knives are nice and even icier than those ones but I Lille their simplicity and the ergonomics work for me

they have good materials, they shows some marks of use on the titanium that give sir kind of unique patina
The quality of the construction will resist time
They have a simple manual operation that is classic and in some ways timeless
 
I feel the need for one serrated, and one plain edge.
Minimum 3.5"
These two for now.
I have a couple of full serrated on the way so the Endura may get rotated out.

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left is 3LegDog P6 from South Africa
The Endura wears scales by WiseMen an exclusive from Indiana Blade Works.
I changed the original black screws out for stainless.
 
appreciate the sentiments and will just add, we should all reconnect with all family/relatives/loved ones we know - covid gives you a great excuse to call and just talk a while, catchup

as for this thread, my gb2 - it's just that good, seems like a tank yet slicy - and the cpm-m4 is just a unique balance of old (non-stainless) and new (crazy amounts of exotic elements) while still performing like sci-fi steel should

the other folder would likely be a larger sak; farmer or soldier or pioneer? hard to choose between those
 
Huh. I don't think I would be able to keep any of them.

It's a good bet that I will develop arthritis in my hands, like my father. That may or may not affect my ability to use a nail-pull, which is almost every knife I have.

I might just promote the Skeletool CS from "weddings & funerals only" to "everyday", and call it good.

I would keep the Alox electrician, even if I couldn't use it. It's been too useful at work, and even though I don't have the same reverence for it that I do for some of the others, it's earned my respect.
 
A SAK was one of my first thoughts also but, I had to take loss of dexterity as I get older into consideration.

I have a nerve injury and it helped when I moved from thumbstuds to thumbhole folders. I've found thumbholes not only help in one hand but two hand opening. I just saw the other "thumb hole" thread and there are great photos.

For now my two knife combo would be the Delica and Endura. The thumbholes with the backlock make them the most mechanically easy for me to use.
 
Having reached official old fart stage, and my next birthday being 80 years of age, I've already dealt with this problem. From my own experience and the experience of my friends and neighbors in our senior citizen community who are my age, I can give you this preview;

You won't be doing any wilderness bashing, nor commando operations. What you will need is a small sharp edge to open all those packages with the pull tab that either breaks off or is too much for 79 year old arthritic fingers to deal with. And being retired, I find I do much more fishing with my other retired old fart friends than ever before. A small SAK is a great old fart knife, and most the old farts in our social circle have a classic on them someplace. The scissors are handy as it the little screw driver tip that deals with small flat or Phillips screws.

A small SAK like a 58mm or 74mm fits in with the mostly urban/suburban life you will be living as an old fart. Your backpacking and wilderness tramping days will be far behind you, and you'll spend more time in museums and art galleries than in your younger days. You'll appreciate what your seeing more. A small SAK will be handy for those prepackaged foods like granola bars and such that have plastic wrapping that is designed to defeat senior citizen fingers. And the little scissors are handy for clipping coupons. Living on social security you stretch your pennies as far as you can.

The other thing you will carry is a multitool. Those old fart fingers I told you about? Well, a small pliers will be a VERY handy thing to have on you. Loss of manual dexterity means trouble grasping and dealing with small objects. My Leatherman squirt that I've become addicted to carrying is used, literally, every single day for something. The screw driver is a stronger one than on the small SAK, so its a nice little pry tool. The small flat Phillips makes a great staple puller, (you'll be dealing with tons more paperwork from social security, health insurance companies, and others that like to send out reams of paper often stapled together) and its good for the screws in those glasses you'll be wearing to see anything closer than the end of your arm.

So, at almost 80 years old, my EDC now is a small SAK and a Leatherman squirt. If I need more knife than that, I will use a small fixed blade. Much easier to deal with, no opening, no closing, no worry about hidden areas for dirt and bacteria. My wife carried one of those Victorinox serrated edge paring knives with the matching red plastic blade cover, in her purse. It's our food and dirty deeds knife when traveling on one of the cross country car trips we take to see family in California and back in Maryland. Or Big Bend, or Grand Canyon, or Mesa Verde or whatever. That Victorinox cuts through most anything. Being a cheap, excuse me, low cost knife, it gets the abuse but it still keeps on going.

Forget the larger single blade locking stuff, its just too big for the pocket. Your pockets will be filled with other stuff like spare glasses, meds for arthritis and any other medical condition that you will develop. Then theres the small magnifying glass because sometimes they print stuff designed to be unreadable by senior citizens. You'll need it. Then theres the spare bandana you'll need. and the small flashlight because your night vision has gone to hell, and the little flashlight helps you find that pill you dropped on the tile bathroom floor and it rolled away. By getting down and shinning the light out across the floor from floor lever, the small pill or whatever you dropped will stand out like a boulder on a flat plain.

Then theres the small bottle of hand sanitizer. Being mostly fast evaporating alcohol, its handy for cleaning small spills and stains on clothing. Old people tend to drop stuff and fumble food, and spills WILL happen. Hand sanitizer is a great instant cleanup that dries in a few minute and that stain you your shirt is gone.

And being a feeble old fart, no longer able to fight much, your daily CCW carry will be in a pocket. Never try to fight an old man, he'll just shoot ya. Spare ammo will take up some more room. And then the RONCO pocket defibrillator in case of a serious vapor lock.

Soooo, forget about that large lock blade. You simply won't have room in your pocket for much over the size of a SAK classic. If this sounds a bit depressing, that is old age folks. Life gets harder the other size of 70, but the alternative is way worse. I'm guessing the grass looks like hell from the underside, so we keep on going the best we can. And trust me, knives will shrink in importance the older you get. As your time gets way shorter, inanimate cult worship objects vastly shrink in how important they are, compared to the people in your life, and to keep going to enjoy every minute you have left. I look back on the knife obsession and wonder what the hell was I thinking???? A good car under you and a AAA membership is way more important than some knife in a pocket. Any little easy to open sharp bit of steel will do and if it has a few tools on it for poking and light prying and screw driving, so much the better.

Old age ain't for the faint of heart! You're gonna have so much more to deal with, you won't care about what knife is in your pocket.
 
Having reached official old fart stage, and my next birthday being 80 years of age, I've already dealt with this problem. From my own experience and the experience of my friends and neighbors in our senior citizen community who are my age, I can give you this preview;

You won't be doing any wilderness bashing, nor commando operations. What you will need is a small sharp edge to open all those packages with the pull tab that either breaks off or is too much for 79 year old arthritic fingers to deal with. And being retired, I find I do much more fishing with my other retired old fart friends than ever before. A small SAK is a great old fart knife, and most the old farts in our social circle have a classic on them someplace. The scissors are handy as it the little screw driver tip that deals with small flat or Phillips screws.

A small SAK like a 58mm or 74mm fits in with the mostly urban/suburban life you will be living as an old fart. Your backpacking and wilderness tramping days will be far behind you, and you'll spend more time in museums and art galleries than in your younger days. You'll appreciate what your seeing more. A small SAK will be handy for those prepackaged foods like granola bars and such that have plastic wrapping that is designed to defeat senior citizen fingers. And the little scissors are handy for clipping coupons. Living on social security you stretch your pennies as far as you can.

The other thing you will carry is a multitool. Those old fart fingers I told you about? Well, a small pliers will be a VERY handy thing to have on you. Loss of manual dexterity means trouble grasping and dealing with small objects. My Leatherman squirt that I've become addicted to carrying is used, literally, every single day for something. The screw driver is a stronger one than on the small SAK, so its a nice little pry tool. The small flat Phillips makes a great staple puller, (you'll be dealing with tons more paperwork from social security, health insurance companies, and others that like to send out reams of paper often stapled together) and its good for the screws in those glasses you'll be wearing to see anything closer than the end of your arm.

So, at almost 80 years old, my EDC now is a small SAK and a Leatherman squirt. If I need more knife than that, I will use a small fixed blade. Much easier to deal with, no opening, no closing, no worry about hidden areas for dirt and bacteria. My wife carried one of those Victorinox serrated edge paring knives with the matching red plastic blade cover, in her purse. It's our food and dirty deeds knife when traveling on one of the cross country car trips we take to see family in California and back in Maryland. Or Big Bend, or Grand Canyon, or Mesa Verde or whatever. That Victorinox cuts through most anything. Being a cheap, excuse me, low cost knife, it gets the abuse but it still keeps on going.

Forget the larger single blade locking stuff, its just too big for the pocket. Your pockets will be filled with other stuff like spare glasses, meds for arthritis and any other medical condition that you will develop. Then theres the small magnifying glass because sometimes they print stuff designed to be unreadable by senior citizens. You'll need it. Then theres the spare bandana you'll need. and the small flashlight because your night vision has gone to hell, and the little flashlight helps you find that pill you dropped on the tile bathroom floor and it rolled away. By getting down and shinning the light out across the floor from floor lever, the small pill or whatever you dropped will stand out like a boulder on a flat plain.

Then theres the small bottle of hand sanitizer. Being mostly fast evaporating alcohol, its handy for cleaning small spills and stains on clothing. Old people tend to drop stuff and fumble food, and spills WILL happen. Hand sanitizer is a great instant cleanup that dries in a few minute and that stain you your shirt is gone.

And being a feeble old fart, no longer able to fight much, your daily CCW carry will be in a pocket. Never try to fight an old man, he'll just shoot ya. Spare ammo will take up some more room. And then the RONCO pocket defibrillator in case of a serious vapor lock.

Soooo, forget about that large lock blade. You simply won't have room in your pocket for much over the size of a SAK classic. If this sounds a bit depressing, that is old age folks. Life gets harder the other size of 70, but the alternative is way worse. I'm guessing the grass looks like hell from the underside, so we keep on going the best we can. And trust me, knives will shrink in importance the older you get. As your time gets way shorter, inanimate cult worship objects vastly shrink in how important they are, compared to the people in your life, and to keep going to enjoy every minute you have left. I look back on the knife obsession and wonder what the hell was I thinking???? A good car under you and a AAA membership is way more important than some knife in a pocket. Any little easy to open sharp bit of steel will do and if it has a few tools on it for poking and light prying and screw driving, so much the better.

Old age ain't for the faint of heart! You're gonna have so much more to deal with, you won't care about what knife is in your pocket.

Thank you. Your comments have been a great help for me.

It appears that I am on the right track with my thoughts for old age knife use. And I can see I already have some of the challenges and behaviors that you have mentioned although only just trace amounts.
 
I’m only 46 but I can already feel the arthritis in my hands and wrists, especially when doing a repetitive action for an extended period...like sharpening. That alone would be a good enough reason to pick something easy to work with, so I’d be fine with a VG-10 Delica and of course I’m keeping an alox SAK.
 
@Sabercat @Sonnydaze
My heart goes out to you guys. Godspeed both of you.

Most days I have a Spyderco or ZT in pocket, but if I can only pick two from my collection they would be CRK’s.

First, my Large Thuya. Even though it’s a micro-skosh off center, I geek out every time I carry it.



The second would probably be my small PJ Inkosi. What a great knife. It’s small but simultaneously exudes confidence that it can handle anything.



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TA: FWIW I see my senior years with a small CRK in my pocket—even if I’m not down to only two knives.
 
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Thank you. Your comments have been a great help for me.

It appears that I am on the right track with my thoughts for old age knife use. And I can see I already have some of the challenges and behaviors that you have mentioned although only just trace amounts.

You're welcome!

The changes can be low key and almost insidious at first. Like a little creeping of some arthritis and some knee pain after a hike. Going through my 50's, I saw a little change here and there. Some after hike or exercise pain, some little decrease in manual dexterity a teen bit.

Going through my 60's was when I saw more marked changes. From a life of cranking on Bridgeport mills and Hardinge lathes, the ostio arthritis in my fingers got more noticeable, with more marked loss of dexterity. Physical endurance went down, and I could not really keep doing what I did in my 40's. BUT...that little three letter word...the metal changes of "been there, done that" took over and I didn't really want to do what I did in my 40's.

After a lifetime of backpacking, I gave away my gear and took it easy. The better half and I sat on the veranda of the Yellowstone lodge with cocktails in hand to watch Old Faithful. We took the little tourist train around Yosemite, and loved it. Do I want to go back and sleep out in the woods in my little tent again? No! Been there and done that. Plus my knees gave out and now I'm looking at a knee replacement in the very near future. By age 70 most of you will have bad knees, bad back, and maybe more. By your late 70's you'll be the old timer with the pen knife in your pocket because you won't need anything more and there will be a shortage of pocket space for it.

By my late 60's, my metal outlook had changed even more than my physical growing limitations. The more years I was around, the more I saw that some of the things I did in my youth were just silly. That included obsession with what I called cult worship items. A new sort of pragmatism seemed to creep into my daily thoughts and subsequent actions. I started to question how much of X did I really need to accomplish Y?

Going through the 70's was a whole other reality. I think by age 70, you're kind of reborn into another person with a whole new set of values. Add in a few heath scares like waking at 5am with chest pains and pain in both arms, and suddenly all you can think if is to tell your wife how much you love her, and grieve that if this is it, you won't have a chance to tell your kids and grandkids how much you love them. And you find out that your wife can drive a Toyota Camry 100mph to the ER. That it was a false alarm from a spasm of a nerve center between the shoulder blades was a relief. But then going through your wife bout with breast cancer also put a whole new outlook on your life. We don't take anything for granted now. Inanimate objects have little meaning now. I'm happy with a little SAK in my pocket. I have no plans of hacking my way through the Amazon or skinning a buffalo, so I really don't need much knife in my life. The one time I had to crawl into an overturned old Datsun to cut the seat belt of the driver, a 1 3/4 sheep foot blade of a Buck stockman worked just fine.

Life is fleeting. The older you get and the more you come to realize that, the less "stuff" means to you.
 
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Birthday CRK for sentimental reasons and a slipjoint with an easy pull, like the Lionsteel Thrill.
 
Easy for me. 2Buck 110’s. Been carrying them daily for almost 40 years. They’ve handled everything I’ve ever needed.

Sorry for your loss. It’s been a rough year here too. Hope things turn around soon.
 
The last year and a half has not been kind to my family. With the death of two siblings and some cousins, you really set up and take notice of what is important in life.

Combine that with all the COVID 19 happenings, Mother Nature can certainly make sure you think about your own mortality and old age.

Which brings me here. I have been thinking how my knife needs have changed over the years and how they will possibly change in the future.

So, here is the $64 dollar question. If you can only keep two folding knives out of what you currently own for use in your old age, what two folders would you pick and why.

First off, I am sorry you've had a hard year, and for the loss of your family..

I am on my way to narrowing down my knife collection. I make it a point to give away good knives. I like seeing knife guys who can't afford nice knives get a good one. I am slowly narrowing down my edc knices.

I still have several, but I believe my final three will be a SAK Pioneer, a Spyderco PM2, and my Microtech Ultratech.

Sorry, I just can't do 2. Lol. If I have too, I guess I'd have to get rid of my PM2, as much as I love it.
 
Unfortunately it usually takes a crisis or challenging times to really show you what's important. As far as what two folders I would keep, the answer is simply the only two folders I own--a blue Bugout and a green Bugout. I pared down years ago as I realized a whole bunch of material possessions won't make me any happier and will be a burden on others when I die (which none of us ever know when that will be regardless of age). I'm not perfect in that I still fall for the trap of material possessions and marketing mirages sometimes, but I have cut down on a considerable amount of the excess. Just need to look inward to figure out why you're really buying or holding onto things you don't need and what it is you actually want and value most in life.
 
A case 6340 smooth bone that got me into knife collecting 23 years ago, and the Shiro Quantum I carry every day now. The Emerson I carried overseas is a close third and would be really hard for me to let go.
 
Unfortunately it usually takes a crisis or challenging times to really show you what's important. As far as what two folders I would keep, the answer is simply the only two folders I own--a blue Bugout and a green Bugout. I pared down years ago as I realized a whole bunch of material possessions won't make me any happier and will be a burden on others when I die (which none of us ever know when that will be regardless of age). I'm not perfect in that I still fall for the trap of material possessions and marketing mirages sometimes, but I have cut down on a considerable amount of the excess. Just need to look inward to figure out why you're really buying or holding onto things you don't need and what it is you actually want and value most in life.
GatorMedic GatorMedic !

Still only two for you? Effectively only one because yours are both Bugouts.

In some ways you are my Heroine because how you dialed everything back and simplified your life.

My remaining sister and myself are taking it slow disposing of my other sister’s belongings. But, there is tons of stuff left to deal with.

Thank you for responding. Always a pleasure to read your comments.
 
Huh. I don't think I would be able to keep any of them.

It's a good bet that I will develop arthritis in my hands, like my father. That may or may not affect my ability to use a nail-pull, which is almost every knife I have.

I might just promote the Skeletool CS from "weddings & funerals only" to "everyday", and call it good.

I would keep the Alox electrician, even if I couldn't use it. It's been too useful at work, and even though I don't have the same reverence for it that I do for some of the others, it's earned my respect.

i’m one step ahead of you. I’ve had problems with nail-pulls and busted nails for years so most of my knives have thumb studs. Anything without nail-pulls. There are a few exceptions, of course.

BTW, what is the proper term, nail-pull or nail-nick?
 
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I guess i would stick with my current EDC, A Bugout with a Buck Cadet. The Omega Springs in the Bugout do worry me so if I swapped the out I'd go with 112 light of some sort with the Cadet.
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