Andrew Gleason

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Some time ago I struck a deal with Mr Gleason - AKA Courderoy here on the forums.
I sent him my Mini AFCK, for him to do some custom work on. Several other members here had good results. I have got squat. And the guy wont respond back to me.

Unless he is laying in the hospital with a serious illness or injury... There is no reason for him not to either finish it per agreement - or just sent id back to me saying "Couldnt get to it - my bad! Here is you knife back."

This started back in August - I have given him enough time. I will be reporting him to the postal inspector before the end of this new month if I dont here from him to my satisfaction.
Now, in case of any untimely accident or something I dont know about - well - anyways - I just want to know what happened.

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I mean, if I went around saying I was an Emperor because some
moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, people would put me away!

 
I would like to know what happened too, only because he is a "friend," and I'm worried about his absence. He did tell me that he was starting a new job, and he wouldn't have very much time for knife mods. as he would be VERY busy. It seemed like a sudden thing to me, but who knows. I do know that when I got my knife back, he had been in the shop for over a week straight, I believe...trying to finish up all the outstanding comitments. I don't know what might have happened with yours, maybe it got lost in the mail. I dunno, but his girlfriend doesn't seem to be taking care of his emails anymore either. Drew is a great guy, and an AWESOME "maker." I'm sure he didn't take your knife for good. Something must have happened to keep him from even checking his email, or the forums, but that does seem to be the case. Maybe someone else here can help you out, so he isn't reported to the Postal Inspector.

-AR

POSTED 10-16-1999

" It's a stroke of very bad luck that I am about to be without computer access for a while and won't be able to see how this thread develops. I think that a fair point has been made, but I feel obliged to offer the counterpoint, since modifying knives is a large part of my shop's activities. "

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- AKTI Member ID# A000322

[This message has been edited by Jackyl (edited 02-02-2000).]
 
No - I wouldnt actually do that...
But I just want to know whats going on.
Getting my knife back would be nice too - Finished would be even better!

If he needs a computer - I think I could hook him up with one that would at least let him get emails and visit the forums... if thats all he is lacking.

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I mean, if I went around saying I was an Emperor because some
moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, people would put me away!

 
Not too sure of the details, but I will try to get this message to Beth. Please give her a day or two to get back to me. I haven't heard from Drew either but I did get a msg from Beth telling me that he is working some unbelieveable hours.

ALL my deals with Drew have been on the up and up. I have 4 knives from him, 2 mods and a custom sheath. He is about the most honorable man I know so I would like to see this resolved so nothing negative would happen to him.

I'll do my best to get this msg to him.

Regards,

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~Greg Mete~
Kodiak Alaska


 
Guys, I agree with Greg, Drew is working his butt off. He has a knife he is doing for me, told me whan I gave it to him last fall that it would be a while. I am sure he will be done with it when he gets done with it. I am not going to worry.
 
I have had several deals with Drew that have been delayed as well. I have been able to contact him though and have just mentally put those deals off for awhile until he gets up to date. Try writing him, snail mail, if you don't have his phone number.

-Cliff
 
The time is well past for me to clear this situation up, and I do not have any exculpatory explanation with which to defend myself. All that I can do is to explain my situation and the events of the past two months simply and honestly, and attempt to make any reconcilliation possible. I trust the members of this community and will stand by their judgment.

In November I accepted a job with WalMart at the new store in Hadley, MA. Though due to open in late January, I agreed to join the set-up crew which began work in December. I spent as much time as I could in my shop in Sharon, MA, trying complete outstanding projects I had at that time (I live in Sunderland, MA, 2 hours away). Unfortunately, I still had many projects underway when work began on Dec. 6.

This is where I began my mistakes. Instead of contacting people whose knives or orders I had and asking them to accept a delay, I decided I could drive to Sharon and back on the weekends to finish the knife work. While setting up a large retail store is an interesting and enjoyable process, it also proved more exhausting than I expected. This combined with the adjustments of moving (from Amherst) to keep me from heading to Sharon on the weekends.

Did I contact people and explain the delays? No, irresponsibly I convinced myself each weekend that I would make it to the shop on the next one, and that would "make everything alright." I let myself fall down his slippery slope and left many folks hanging. I also dropped out of site on this community and online in general, from a combination of my busy schedule and apprehension about the problems I was avoiding.

I want it clear that this is in no way an excuse for my behavior - I neither claim nor deserve any. It is simply an explanation. My behavior turned a fairly minor problem (delays) into a major one (my disappearance and abuse of people's trust). I cannot reverse this, but I hope thatI can "make it right" to some extent, and also re-enter this community that I have missed very much.

Here is the situation. I have 6-8 knives which were sent to me for work. Some are actually packed and ready to go, others are untouched, most are somewhere in between. I am going to Sharon now to do some work and get a clear inventory and the paperwork which I keep there. I will be contacting their owners individually in addition to this public statement. I would like it known that I have not taken anyone's money for work that is incomplete - any checks or M.O.s that were sent to me are still uncashed.

My proposal is this. I will finish any work requested and return the knives as soon as possible, without any charge. Now that the Hadley WalMart is open my schedule is less demanding and trips to my shop are realistically possible. If that is unacceptable to anyone, there knife can be returned in its original state immediately and I will work out with them personally some compensation I can make for their inconvenience. In short, either wait a bit and get the work you wanted for free, or forget the whole thing and get your knife back now.

For any folks with whom I discussed making knives, I am still willing to go forward, but it will take some time. I deliberately neither discussed money nor schedules on these projects to avoid complications. I'll also contact these (two) people in the next couple of days.

That's basically the situation. I know that some folks are upset and I invite their criticism (or anyone else's) at this time. More than that, I'd appreciate input on how I can "make this right." I've learned some things about myself in this mess and will know better how to avoid it in the future (by curtailing the number of projects I have going at once, for starters). But more importantly, I'd like to patch up as much damage as possible and return to this community.

Finally, let me not omit the most important part of this statement (as our president did): I'm very sorry for what I have done.

Thank you.

-Drew


P.S. - I have set up new email not attached to UMass. Please contact me at:
littlebearknives@yahoo.com
 
Drew,
I've never dealt with you, but you seem like the kind of guy who would try to make things right. You accepted your irresopnsibility, and are now trying to fix your mistakes. That is very commendable!
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Best Wishes,
Mitch
 
I will do business with a man that stands up to his mistakes any day of the week.

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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
 
In my opinion ONLY, Drew has done nothing wrong. First things, first. Job, and family come before knives. True, "customers" should have been made aware of the delay a little sooner, but no harm has been done really. I mean, Drew is just like you or me, only a VERY talented!!!
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IMO, you shouldn't refund anyone's money Drew, unless you set a legit, promised time. You work too hard and drive too far to give your work away because you feel guilty. You're still first rate with me man, and I for one DO plan on still sending you a TIP here shortly for the work I've already paid for, and have gotten back. I enjoy my D.G. 850 everyday, and it's worth far more to me than what I paid for it. I am happy to see you return Drew. ...and I'm excited for those who will be getting their D.G. modified blades soon. They will love them!!!

-AR

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[This message has been edited by Jackyl (edited 02-09-2000).]
 
Drew -

I wouldn't have anyone else do the work we were discussing. Whenever you get the chance, I'll consider it a privilege.

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"That which does not kill me just postpones the inevitable."
 
Drew,
It`s all too common in this day and age for people to get themselves over extended.I agree with Jackyl that you should not offer to complete work for free out of any sense of guilt you feel over the delay of various projects.Your apology is sufficient.Happy to see you back!

[This message has been edited by Carver (edited 02-09-2000).]
 
this tough experience contains a lesson anybody could profit from: anxiety breeds avoidance. And avoidance creates more anxiety. It's human nature. That's why psychologists make people who are afraid of heights walk across bridges. If you can confront the thing that's making you anxious (in this case, dropping the ball on knife-making commitments), it loses much of its hold. Corduroy deserves to be congratulated for belatedly taking a big step forward thru his public explanation.
 
There, Drew, doesn't that feel better? Let it all out and come back to the fold.

Sincerely, your brother in associating beloved teddy bears from children's books with knives, I remain

Gwinnydapooh
 
I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that Drew wasn't setting up a store; but that he'd absconded to a ashram with a bunch of other tree hugging hippies and was turning the knives into wicker baskets....

Seriously though, we're glad to hear that you are ok, and it's just work keeping you busy, instead of something unfortunate. Thanks for checking in with us, and we hope to see you back soon.

Spark
 
Drew,
It is good to hear from you.
I had recieved several emails from guys I dont know claiming that you bailed with many items in your pockets, one said you passed away! Then I got some good information from our friend Kodiak Pa here - and then I knew you had just got very busy with some changes in your life... Thats totally understandable and forgivable. If you worked on my knife - per our agreement - I will pay you in kind.
I dont want anything for free. Especially if its the work of a master craftsman as yourself.
Welcome back! I am happy you didn't get hit by a drunk drive and went off a bridge!
(seriously - thats what I was told!)



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I mean, if I went around saying I was an Emperor because some
moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, people would put me away!

 
Well,
I feel the bottom line here is a lesson learned concerning the massive importance of good communication. Without it, tempers flare, people do things they wouldn't normally do, and say things they wouldn't normally say; all because information was not relayed to them. I'm guilty of being one that reacted very negatively to not receiving any communication from Drew since sending him my two knives last October, and I feel badly after reading his post. I guess it's because I know the value of proper communication and its importance, and I take it very seriously. Lack of communication (in a big-picture view) is what's costing our modern-day society massive damage. Parents not talking to their children, children not talking to their parents, employees not talking to their managers, managers not talking to their employees, it all builds up to a huge mess over time. I may be leaning towards the conceptual side of this "communication issue", but it's not to be taken lightly. We're all guilty of not saying the things we should've said, and then regret it for not doing so. Don't hesitate, SAY IT NOW!!

Not only has Drew responded in a very mature, adult-like, and commendable manner, he's even offered to do the work he has on hand for free. Like the post above me from Ogre, I don't want anything for free, either. You do some great work, Corduroy, and you should be compensated for your time and effort. I will gladly pay you, as long as you promise to communicate better in the future!!!
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Seriously, I will pay you for my two knives, and I hope you contact me soon. I'll be yahooing you right away. Sorry I found your post so late, I've been "away" from the forums myself, as well as being too busy with school.

Thanks,
Chad

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