Another question for the gun guys

kamagong

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What should I get first, a Mossberg 590 or a Yugo SKS? I am finally putting my kit together and I know that I'll eventually get both, but for now I need help deciding on which to firearm to get. I have very limited experience with long arms. I went clay shooting once, and I had a Crossman pellet gun that I used to shoot off the tails off lizards when I was a kid. The long gun will be a secondary weapon, my primary will be a Springfield Loaded that I will be buying next month.
 
A shotgun is a much more versatile and useful tool than a mil-surp rifle, IMO. With a shotgun you can hunt everything from small birds and rabbits all the way up to bear, and everything in between. I would take the Mossberg over the SKS any day of the week. A shotgun is an unbeatable tool for home defense as well, which is much less the case with a high-powered rifle. You can do pretty much anything with a shotgun, just by changing what your're loading- from little birdshot up to slugs. The only area where the SKS outshines a good pumpgun is in range. And SKS's aren't even all that super accurate, so far as rifles go. If you go for the shotgun, make sure it has a stock! Those pistol-grip only things look cool, but they really suck to shoot. It feels like getting hit in the hand with a baseball bat shooting slugs out of those things.

The 590 is a hell of a good gun. I believe it's current US military issue, as opposed to the SKS, which is 1950's era com-bloc gear, which tells you something.
 
I've already tried out three different shotguns, the Mossbergs 590 and 500, and the Remington Police Express 870. The 590 fit me the best.
 
I would get the SKS first because its an SKS. Dont let them scare you about it being banned because it wont happen. The SKS is a great zombie gun because of its rate of fire. You can also kill bears easily with it. This makes it a great gun for defense against America's two biggest threats: zombies, and bears.
 
The shotgun will be easier to learn with and much more versatile. Although, if your experience is that limited, you may want to consider starting off with a .22. You can get a new one for a little over a $100, or a used one for even less. I mention this because with the SKS or the shotgun you'll be dealing with a considerable amount of recoil. It would be very easy to develop a flinch if you try to shoot guns like those without learning the basics of trigger control and aiming on a more forgiving weapon first. Plus you can shoot that .22 all day for about $20. $20 worth of ammo will last about 5 minutes with the shotgun and 1 minute in the SKS (no I'm not exaggerating).
 
Good points all. I forgot to mention that I'm going to get a Ruger 10/22 also. It'll be my trainer much like the way I'm using Ruger 22/45 as a training tool for the 1911 I will be buying next month.
 
I'd go with the SKS. Borrowed my brother's for the weekend and had a great time. Wolf Makes 7.62x39 that sells for about .20 cents a shot. Much better then the $2 per shot with a shotgun. (I used Cabela's website for reference). But the shotgun in definantly more versital. Either one would be nice to have. I'd just do the SKS first. Then again if you plan to shoot lots of lcay pigions, go with the shotgun.

Will possibly be going to the indoor range in an hour with a friend. If we go, I'll bring my Ruger 10/22 and maybe a .22 pistol. Still got the SKS, but figure I'll save some of the 2000 rounds my brother has for another trip to the outdoor range. :D

Heber
 
Good points all. I forgot to mention that I'm going to get a Ruger 10/22 also. It'll be my trainer much like the way I'm using Ruger 22/45 as a training tool for the 1911 I will be buying next month.

The 10/22 is a great gun- they're a lot of fun to shoot and are pretty handy at pest control and small critter hunting, not to mention drilling neat little holes in paper targets. I love .22's, for Roadrunner's reasons above. If you like to shoot, but don't have a magical money tree in your backyard, the .22 can't be beaten! You'll really enjoy your 10/22.
 
SKS.

SKS. :p


Shotguns will never be banned... get one anytime... besides, a friend wouldn't let a friend buy a Mossberg (I have one that's a POS).

Overall I would agree the "one-gun" scenario would be a shotgun for me: the 870. Or even better, a Benelli. ;)


Mike
 
Shotguns will never be banned... get one anytime... besides, a friend wouldn't let a friend buy a Mossberg (I have one that's a POS).
Thanks for the tip. The problem is that I tried out different shotties at the shop. The gun that fit me best was the 590.

BTW, which Mossy do you have?
 
The 500 pump. :p

It went back to the Mossberg service center in Texas twice- once when it was discovered it had a manufacturing crack in the receiver (after the warranty was up)- then it went back again when it wouldn't feed more than 2 rounds.

Some knowledgble folks swear by them; only speaking from my experience. They are inexpensive firearms; guarding my person isn't going to the lowest bidder this time.


Mike ;)

edit: I just got a bad one.
 
Thanks for the tip. The problem is that I tried out different shotties at the shop. The gun that fit me best was the 590.
Hey, whatever works for you, works for you. You may well find that your tastes change a bit as you gain experience. The Mossbergs are decent guns, and there will always be a market for it if you decide to sell it later. I would echo the 870 recommendation, and add the 11-87 if you want an autoloader.

As for the SKS, I'd say grab it. The Yugoslav rifles are all factory-made and said to be equal in quality to the Russians, and certainly better than most. I have an excellent factory-made Chinese SKS, but many were made in someone's back yard with hand tools. As for recoil, I think the SKS has enough weight to reasonably subdue the 7.62. If you can, you should really shoot one of them before you make a decision.
 
Shotgun.

Shotgun.


Buy used. Buy Old.



There's a .22 shooting guide somewhere in the search function of H.I. Teach yourself expertise. Good stuff.
 
With the shotgun you get superior versatility. Upland game shells are cheap so you can really can get used to it. If it ever corroded on the barrel's interior (harsh climate exposure?) your performance won't suffer as dramatically. Then again, are SKS barrels chrome lined (chrome lined barrels are very resiliant)?. Shotguns have a much wider selection of uses with various shot sizes and slugs, in fact, you could even get extra barrels to further this goal. Mossberg used to sell a kit that came with an 18" home defense barrel and a 26" adjustable choked barrel (which allows you to control the pattern/spread of your pellets). Besides, police and military worldwide use pump shotguns everyday...who regularly issues the SKS? Of course, you could get both for under $300 if you hunted around (perhaps not the 590 though). Just think, all that range and power for half the price of your pistol.

FWIW, I love my Springfield 1911, but why would a long gun take 2nd place to a pistol? I think most new comers to guns favor pistols (I did), but in time you realize that a shotgun or rifle is a vastly better weapon than any handgun out there. You may want to really think about trying to rent or borrow a few of each to feel it out. I spent thousands of dollars on handguns to one day realize that all pistols are short range emergency weapons. It was my Remington 870 that taught me that guns are not just weapons, but tools.

Hope I did not come off condescending with all the extra info. I'm not sure what you know at this point, so I'd just as soon be as helpful as possible.
 
. . . Then again, are SKS barrels chrome lined (chrome lined barrels are very resiliant)?.

All but Yugo SKS barrels.

Yugo SKS barrels are NOT chromium-plated.

And to address the question, I'd go with the shotgun first since you are buying a 1911 and a 10/22.

Noah
 
Shotgun. Definitely.

Do not be afraid to buy used (not abused) shotguns. Remington, Ithaca and Winchesters then become financially realistic. Despite the fact I have much more expensive models in the safe, what I have leaning in the corner of my bedroom is a Model 1200 Winchester, legally shortened, costing only $175. Its main advantage? Reliable as a brick......................jn
 
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