ANSWERED: Field/Stone Sharpening 45VN (Para 2)

[campandtravel]

Ultralight travel requires carrying only the essentials, but I find that experienced outdoorsman consider a sharpening stone a very important piece of kit on any trip that lasts more than one overnight.

I find that most experienced outdoorsman don't know much about much. They drive to the trail, they camp for a few nights at most, they hardly ever hike.

If they were experienced they would know that there are stones all over the place in the woods, no need to bring their own. Next thing you'll tell me I should pack a shade-tree.

 

[campandtravel]

Ultralight travel requires carrying only the essentials, but I find that experienced outdoorsman consider a sharpening stone a very important piece of kit on any trip that lasts more than one overnight.

If they were experienced they would know that there are stones all over the place in the woods, no need to bring their own. Next thing you'll tell me I should pack a shade-tree.

 

[Elgatodeacero]

You sound like you know it all, so not sure anyone here can help you,

 

[campandtravel]

You sound like you know it all, so not sure anyone here can help you,

No, it's just that everyone here read where I said that I choose to sharpen with a river stone and they're all trying to get me to change my mind. Really pretty rude if you think about it. You did it too.

The question is if I can sharpen 45VN on a river stone. Not if the person commenting happens to like sharpening that way.

 

[J. Doyle]

I find that most experienced outdoorsman don't know much about much.

That's a pretty silly statement. And one could make that same case about you, based on this thread alone.

They drive to the trail, they camp for a few nights at most, they hardly ever hike.

You're assuming what a large group of other people do without really having any idea.

If they were experienced they would know that there are stones all over the place in the woods, no need to bring their own.

Again, you're making assumptions. Maybe people want a faster, better edge than a rock will give them....and they'll sacrifice a couple ounces to facilitate that.

Look, people are just trying to help you out. There's a good chance that you carry something that you deem essential that other experienced backpackers wouldn't carry of don't need. Fire starter? Stove? Food? Water filter? Could be anything.

I've spent a fair amount of time backpacking, hiking and wilderness camping. Personally I've never once had to dig a hole, pry with my knife or drill a hole in a piece of wood. But your experience may be different and require different gear or a different type of knife.

I liked and preferred to carry a small sharpener. Like I said, people are just offering suggestions.

Next thing you'll tell me I should pack a shade-tree.

More assumptions.

 

[campandtravel]

More assumptions.

Don't be dense. It was a joke and obviously so.

Personally I've never once had to dig a hole, pry with my knife or drill a hole in a piece of wood

Sounds like you don't have much experience actually being in the field with one edged tool. Yet you still felt like sharing. How sweet.

 

[J. Doyle]

Don't be dense. It was a joke and obviously so.

Perusing your recent posts, it's ironic you're telling someone not to be dense.

Sounds like you don't have much experience actually being in the field with one edged tool. Yet you still felt like sharing. How sweet.

You don't possess the knowledge or information to make that assumption. Yet you still feel like making assumptions. How sweet.

It sounds to me like you don't have a clue what a knife is for.

Happy trails.

 

[campandtravel]

Perusing your recent posts, it's ironic you're telling someone not to be dense.

Then you're not good at perusing because I say again that it was a joke, and obviously so.

You don't possess the knowledge or information to make that assumption.

Sure I do. The information I have is that you said you "'ve never once had to dig a hole, pry with my knife or drill a hole in a piece of wood" That can only be true if you've never really been out in the field alone with only one edged tool for more than a week.

It sounds to me like you don't have a clue what a knife is for.

And it sounds to me like you're a weekend warrior.

 

[J. Doyle]

Sure I do. The information I have is that you said you "'ve never once had to dig a hole, pry with my knife or drill a hole in a piece of wood" That can only be true if you've never really been out in the field alone with only one edged tool for more than a week.

Well if you think this, you would be wrong. But congrats on this being in the top 3 of dumbest things I've read on bladeforums.....and that's saying something.

Likely this is my last post to you.

 

[campandtravel]

Likely this is my last post to you.

No, don't go. You've been so helpful.

 

[gruntmedik]

So, you want a knife that is easy to sharpen on a rock, that you can dig with, pry with, and weighs less than a chicken fart. Sounds like a folding knife isn't what you need.

Or toughen up and carry a few more ounces. Get me?

 

[DeadboxHero]

Don't waste time sharpening on a river stone. If you put a good enough edge on it before you leave you won't even have to worry about it. Its s45vn not pot metal.

I'm considering buying a Spyderco Para 2 as my one blade to carry when I'm backpacking. (Currently carry a small tommy and an Opinel 8, want to lighten the load.)

The Para 2 can definitely handle the tasks I have in mind, not worried there. But I don't know if 45VN steel can be sharpened in the field.

There is no way I'm adding weight, carrying something else to sharpen my tools. I posted something about field sharpening a few years ago and got lots of comments from weekend warriors and hunters who doubtfully hike more than 20 miles in a week. I do that in a day. Ounces matter. I don't even have a handle on my toothbrush and I carry baking soda because the liquid in toothpaste weighs too much. Get me?

So I'll be sharpening this thing on a nice river stone when I stop for the day. I don't mind sharpening every night, I consider that normal.

Seems like the Para 2 is really well made, but it's made for the kind of knife hobbyists who prefer "edge retention." So can the Para 2 do what I want? Can I beat the **** out of it and then sharpen it with a stone I find in the field?

Oh, and please none of this "it will last until you're home." I don't have a ****ing home. I'm in the field. Get me?
Thanks.

 

[campandtravel]

If you put a good enough edge on it before you leave you won't even have to worry about it.

Should I focus my reply on how this is not taking the question I asked at face value? Or should I focus on what a stupid thing that was to say? You are suggesting that a person go into the woods without the ability to field-maintain his equipment.

Even if you're only going to be in the woods for a couple of weeks that's insane.

 

[campandtravel]

So, you want a knife that is easy to sharpen on a rock, that you can dig with, pry with, and weighs less than a chicken fart. Sounds like a folding knife isn't what you need.

Or toughen up and carry a few more ounces. Get me?

So is that what this forum is? A bunch of weekend warriors pretending they're still as tough as they pretend they used to be?

 

[gruntmedik]

So is that what this forum is? A bunch of weekend warriors pretending they're still as tough as they pretend they used to be?

Kinda ironic, you complaining about carrying a few extra ounces, yet acting the part of a keyboard commando.

Enjoy your rocks.

 

[campandtravel]

Kinda ironic, you complaining about carrying a few extra ounces, yet acting the part of a keyboard commando.

Can I offer you some cheese with your whine?

 

[J. Doyle]

Kinda ironic, you complaining about carrying a few extra ounces, yet acting the part of a keyboard commando.

Enjoy your rocks.

The way he's going, it's probably more appropriate to say "enjoy your time here"(while you can).

 

[campandtravel]

The way he's going, it's probably more appropriate to say "enjoy your time here"(while you can).

 

[gruntmedik]

Can I offer you some cheese with your whine?

Ok, Magyver, maybe you should just make your blade with your ever present rocks, then you won't have to carry anything.

YOU are the one that came here asking advice.
YOU are the one that got defensive and confrontational.
YOU are the one with the confused definition of whine.

Hope you find the blade you're looking for.

 

[DeadboxHero]

Just take a deep breath, no one is attacking you. It's an online discussion in a public forum with complete strangers.

Should I focus my reply on how this is not taking the question I asked at face value? Or should I focus on what a stupid thing that was to say? You are suggesting that a person go into the woods without the ability to field-maintain his equipment.

Even if you're only going to be in the woods for a couple of weeks that's insane.