Any folding knives built as strong as a CS Spartan?

Another potentially good thread with a very good question is now being buried in dirt as usual.
 
Sorry. What I meant was that I did not care for an argument.
And what I meant by my first message on the subject was basically that the new design feature in the lock could be used to make knife lighter without sacrificing any strength. Or it could be added on top of general overbuild. Yeah, it is capable of sustaining the weight of super-fat alien invaders now, point well made...
But if I did not lay it out clear enough, so my post does not make sense for you - so let it be. I do not have to argue, prove something and get overall emotional about it, or do I? That is just my opinion. It looks overbuild, too heavy and ugly to me. They could have made it more compact, lighter and overall nicer- using their great lock design. Instead they produced a monster. And the "test" just shows that. That is all.
And if you think differently... I would not say that whatever you think does not make any sense, even if I disagree.

P.S. Sorry for burying a great thread in dirt as usual. Did not actually intend to keep it on the top of the list.
 
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Nternal said:
Another potentially good thread with a very good question is now being buried in dirt as usual.
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Yes....why can't people just answer questions the way they are supposed to? :D

I'll try to.

No...it's not possible. TaiChi, that particular YouTube video you saw was a load of hooey. I've seen that one....and it was faked.
 
marcinek said:
Yes....why can't people just answer questions the way they are supposed to? :D

I'll try to.

No...it's not possible. TaiChi, that particular YouTube video you saw was a load of hooey. I've seen that one....and it was faked.
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Faked?
 
The knife design itself was created from an older design, some what of a novelty of sorts, but I have no doubts of the lock strength, I trust Mr. Demko's designs. The steel is decent for the money and the knife is very strong and would serve well as a bush folder or just a EDC utility knife and of course self-defense if you like to train with your folders in that manner. As far as the looks, its all PERSONAL OPINION. I happen to like the way it looks.
 
I would have to question why someone wouldn't want a folder that strong? In the looks dept the Spartan with the zytel is seriously lacking but for being a strong and purpose built folder it is STELLAR. The tri-ad lock I think is the lock everyone else wanted to perfect but didn't. The more beef and burl built into a folder, espcially a folder I am all for it.

Now what I don't understand is super thick fixed blades with recurved blades. So there ya go, keepem sharp
 
taiChiFighter said:
Well, it is ugly but it's not an issue for me. As far as I'm concerned the Spartan isn't an EDC. It's nothing more than vicious concealed weapon which will stay on the shelf so long as we live in peaceful times.
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Any strider or hinderer should take that abuse with flying colors, but there obviously gonna set you back at least 6-20 times the price of the spartan.
I understand the appeal of a "folding fixed blade", but if you really want to put a knife through abuse why not get a fixed blade. Something from becker or esee with a good IWB sheath (Which im sure someone down on the services offered section could make you) worn at 4 O'clock is IMHO more comfortable, easier to conceal, and faster to draw than a large folder in pocket, and should take the same abuse and then some. An added bonus, a good fixed blade is more than just a vicious weapon, but a great tool (Not that the spartan isn't).
 
longbow said:
I would have to question why someone wouldn't want a folder that strong? ...
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Would you like a folder 10 times stronger? It is possible. It probably will be couple of kilos heavier, but I am sure it can be done. And there is a possibility to make one 100 times stronger. You will probably need some help to lift it, but considering the size it should not be too heavy - would just require a couple of strong guys. So, do you want it? Design, or no design, strength always come at cost. From my point of view, if that folder can withstand that kind of abuse - it is already beyond reasonable. I would not carry that dead weight around - for I do not really give my knifes to fat or fit fools so they could stomp them as they please. Do you? ;)
 
Sorry, had a bad day yesterday and my post was out of line.
 
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There are dozens of folders in the Spartan strength class. All Striders and Hinderers, most Chris Reeves, almost all ZTs, Extrema Ratios, Pohl Forces, and several other Cold Steels. I can't prove it, though.
 
Poez said:
(snip) the new design feature in the lock could be used to make knife lighter without sacrificing any strength. Or it could be added on top of general overbuild.(snip) They could have made it more compact, lighter and overall nicer- using their great lock design. Instead they produced a monster. And the "test" just shows that.(snip)
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I completely agree with the point you're making here. I would also agree that if the goal is to make the toughest folder the CS Spartan is fairly well engineered, but I also think it could almost be considered a failure as it is so overbuilt if the goal were to create an idea pocket knife.

I can't think of any other knife that is as strong though. Possibly some of the stouter framelocks that are out there. It would need be a design with a designated blade stop pin (aka not a standard backlock), Maybe an axis lock, or compression lock, but neither lock currently has a blade out thats as durable as the Spartan's. I tend to think an Emerson HD7 would give a Spartan a run for its money, as they are very stout knives in many of the same respects.
 
mogmz said:
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And before you ask, no, I have no problem carrying the Spartan as an EDC because I'm a man and don't cry/whine about silly ass shit.
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I have entertained a few questions/comments about silly ass shit - what real men do with it, but decided against putting it here in the forum.
Why do we need to get so emotional? Can you actually bring your message across without shouting abuse to your fellow knife enthusiast? Why to bury the topic in dirt. Can you let people have an opinion which differs from yours or all the men must think the same? What kind of forum would it be - wouldn't it be a bit boring? Hm, now as we mention it....
 
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