Any Idea When the Spyderco Advocate Gen 2 Will Arrive?

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  1. sharp_edge

    sharp_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 30, 2015
    I would pick washers over the above bearings any day of the week plus the weekend.
     
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  2. cistercian

    cistercian Gold Member Gold Member

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    Apr 22, 2015
    The CQI version has larger diameter balls in bronze holders instead of plastic.
    With thicker steel washers too. I don't view mine as anything other than a fancy
    gentleman carry. The light weight, thinness, and epic cutting ability make for
    a zero compromise dress folder.
    For a heavy use and regular carry flippers I bought a small pile of ZT knives...
    none of which cut as well as the Advocate. But they all have stainless steels
    and epic actions...so I guess it evens out. The Advocate was my gateway flipper.
    All of my ZT blades are Sinkevich designs...I love his work!

    Gayle Bradley did an epic job on the Advocate blade and I consider the knife
    a significant piece of work worth owning. It is a shame the originals had pivot
    issues...I think that "killed" it.
    I regard it as a "must own". As a total package...it is compelling. I always loathed
    CR integral locks...until I got my Advocate. There is just something about it...
    My son went nuts when I showed it to him. He got it right away. An Epic under
    appreciated piece. I am never selling mine.
     
  3. GatorFlash1

    GatorFlash1 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 28, 2012

    What is an R year code? Does that mean all the boxes with the updated CQI version was made sometime in 2018?
     
  4. kreole

    kreole Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 23, 2009
    Agree with all of this. Every GB knife has been so nice to use. The Advocate took it a step up and was unexpected, at least from me, a flipper with bearings from a maker who mostly sticks to traditionals and fixed blades. The original GB came out of nowhere also, suddenly a production knife with M4 and CF, and for $100-120?!

    I think Spyderco's response and treatment of the update killed it as much as the original issue did. This thread and the "official response" on their forum kind of show that, I think. Official response: "We have never had any in for warranty work so believe this is not a real problem...but umm if it is it's probably your fault for disassembling it and then tightening it too much." That clearly set some people off. And then despite claiming that, they make substantial changes. The problem there is they kept the model name the same with no easy way to distinguish between them (a problem this thread shows) while not pulling back the originals to fix, so everyone was afraid to buy one. Making changes and calling it CQI works for small and/or unnecessary updates, but when there's a fundamental flaw and you don't pull the original off the shelves, you're putting fear and uncertainty into buying it.
     
  5. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    I can remember them being sold at lots of places for $129.99 for what seemed like forever.

    I can remember thinking to myself then that this was one of the best values EVER in a production folder.

    And then one day <POOF> they were gone. I got one plus a few pre-need replacements before they disappeared.
     
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  6. GatorFlash1

    GatorFlash1 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 28, 2012
    I agree. They shot themselves in the foot with the way this was handled. If we can have a Paramilitary 2 model we certainly should have been able to have a Spyderco Advocate 2 model. I have one and think it is a thing of beauty, and function both.
     
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  7. BilboBaggins

    BilboBaggins Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 14, 2016
    Traded for one here on the exchange and I am blown away by this knife. Unreal attention to detail and finishing on a production knife. I agree that the early issues likely caused an early demise for a knife that should have been a home run for years to come. Glad I got my hands on one.
     
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  8. AF

    AF Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    Got one from BHQ the other day. Opened her up and immediately heard a rattle. Then noticed the pivot screws were kinda chewed up. I didn't bother trying to diagnose. Not worth it. Returned it.
    Box code was AR and I could see it was the gen 2.
     
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  9. K.O.D.

    K.O.D. Sanity Not Included Platinum Member

    Aug 21, 2013
    I love my GB 1. I bought it for $145 back in 2014.

    After all this bull, the should ditch the advocate name.

    Come out with a GB3, a flipper version of the GB1, carbon fiber scales and all.
     
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  10. Sal Glesser

    Sal Glesser Moderator Moderator

    Dec 27, 1998
    Actually, we got very few back, even of the originals.

    sal
     

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