Any Pop's ProCut Dialogue?

Stevecallaricustoms said:
Hey,

Ive made and sold 50+ knives with procut and had very very consistent results. Phenomenal edge retention and edge stability. 1550/cryo/300 comes to 66.5-67 every time, and for prybars (ive made 60 or so) 1700/cryo/ 400 comes to 61.5 every time. Just my guess, but delam and cracking comes from uneven temps when quenching not anything from the mill. My guess is they overheated the outside of the steel (probably using a forge) and didn't properly soak the steel and that caused the delam and cracking. Also why they poked it 20 times to get a hardness reading, they were probably getting numbers all over the place which is really unprofessional. Thats them trying to find one poke with a number that was acceptable so they could say it made spec. They knew something was wrong from the first 4 pokes, either they still have decarb or its under hardened.
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I would think all the dimples would be from a carbide straightening hammer if I had to guess, not from so many Rockwell tests.
 
To my eyes, there only appears to be TWO hardness testing dimples, right between the two pin holes. I don't know what those dots scattered along the edge are, and they look different than the two dimples where people normally hardness hardness test, on the handle underneath where scales would be. If you blow the photo up, the two dimples between the pin holes have a brighter sort of "ring" around them, for lack of a better word.
 
I think the rest are hardness testing dimples as well. Maybe they had to heat treat multiple times or they’re still learning the new steel and trying to get a larger sample size of test results.?.? Looks like they were interested/concerned with edge hardness. I’ve got a few sticks under the bench I’m going to play with this winter. I’m going to do my own heat treat so I might dedicate a couple of coupons to destruction if we’re all still scratching our heads by then.
 
ScarFoot said:
I think the rest are hardness testing dimples as well. Maybe they had to heat treat multiple times or they’re still learning the new steel and trying to get a larger sample size of test results.?.? Looks like they were interested/concerned with edge hardness. I’ve got a few sticks under the bench I’m going to play with this winter. I’m going to do my own heat treat so I might dedicate a couple of coupons to destruction if we’re all still scratching our heads by then.
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The only reason to test hardness that many times is if the hardness readings were inconsistent. That typically happens from a heat treating issue. If the hardness values are consistent then testing 20 times on the same piece just tells you the same thing 20 times.
 
Larrin said:
The only reason to test hardness that many times is if the hardness readings were inconsistent. That typically happens from a heat treating issue. If the hardness values are consistent then testing 20 times on the same piece just tells you the same thing 20 times.
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I agree. That’s why I’m also curious how many times they actually cooked it. I would hope they wouldn’t use a customer’s stock to test different temp/hardness results but, if those are testing dimples, they were obviously chasing numbers for some reason. My initial thought was that they overheated it. I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt though.

Like I said, I’m willing to abuse a few coupons if it helps figure it out. I personally don’t have any concerns about the steel and am looking forward to using it. Any steel will fail under the wrong conditions.
 
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