Any recommendation for winter wear

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Would be going to china very soon, I heard that its very cold during this time as the air is wet. Its something like -3degrees Cel.

I have not been to a winter country before and as such would like recommendation on what type of winter wear to get and whats the best in keeping the cold away without looking like an eskimo. What type are the best because living in Asia, might not be able to get the brands available in the US.

What other items are needed?
thanks
 
Some basic rules to follow-

-Keep your head warm one way or another.
-Wear dry socks. Too much sweat or moisture seeping through your footwear will make you miserable fast. Always have extra socks to change into.
-Layers work.
 
well considering it gets about 9 degrees farenheit here which is below 0 celsius


1 normal cotton t-shirt, 1 antiperspirent shirt, 1 wool sweater, 1 waterproof heavy jacket, and if you really need it an outer shell

sox.... just get good ones or wear more then one pair.

pants some long jons under jeans works wonders.

gloves hats you know the drill
 
Wool works great, polypropylene or cold gear Under Armour under your regular clothes for insulation; Anything with Thinsulate insulation and layer your clothes but not to tight so there can be air pockets to hold warm air.
 
You are above freezing temperatures, so if it were me, I would get a good set of lightweight smartwool long underwear or similar. It is a great base layer that wicks moisture away from your body and is warm. Wool as an outer layer is excellent for keeping it's insulation properties when wet, but it doesn't do a lot to stop the wind from getting to you. So if wearing a wool outer layer, I would suggest some kind of windstopper garment like a lined overcoat. A warm and insulating hat is a must, as are warm/wicking (merino wool) socks and a waterproof boot.
 
To break longbow50's post down into basic elements, remember the three "W"s of layering- wicking, warnth, and weather.
 
Synthetics for base layer, add wool or more synthetics over it. Cotton is just crazy in that temp. Inside who cares outside a big no no. If you are city bound then it realy doesnt matter if you are in the wilderness no cotton.

Layers.
Rain protection
Insulation
No cotton.

Skam
 
Would be going to china very soon, I heard that its very cold during this time as the air is wet. Its something like -3degrees Cel.
What part of China are you going to? I'm assuming somewhere northern, like Beijing, for it to be that cold on average.

If you're going for Tibet, the altitude and the customs would crop up other issues than the cold.

I have not been to a winter country before and as such would like recommendation on what type of winter wear to get and whats the best in keeping the cold away without looking like an eskimo.
Layer, and wear long underwear.

That really is it.

Remember that most of China didn't get access to fancy synthetics until pretty much the last five years, so cotton and wool are going to be the primary winter materials. Children are taught from a very young age to heavily layer. You will primarily see layered cotton and wool, and the occasional synthetic jacket for the very well-off.

What type are the best because living in Asia, might not be able to get the brands available in the US.
As long as you are in an major city, you should see no distinct differences between the quality of clothing you will be able to purchase. Thanks to global trade, they will also be at similar prices after currency conversion.

Synthetics are still more rare though, so if you want good synthetic jackets, buy them in the US. Jacket should look as casual-wear as possible. Avoid the "hiker look" and bright colors, which can make you stand out quite a bit in China. Dull colors will make you blend much better.

If you are not going to be in a major city, though, stock up on good quality wool and synthetics in the states.

What other items are needed?
Gloves and lotion against frostbites.

Your standard traveling medicine, like immodium, in case you never get used to the local food.

If you're not going to stay in a heated hotel the entire time, fleece blankets for sleeping. For some reason good fleece never really caught on in China.

Don't EDC multiple things. If you do EDC, deep pocket them. Don't let anything large print through clothing, such as multitools. In cities violent assaults and robberies shouldn't happen anymore than it does in the good parts of the US, but petty thievery - pickpocketing and the like - have been worked down to an art. Don't leave anything printing or out of your sight if riding public transportation.

(Answer this: So is this an outdoor adventure thing, or an urban business travel?)
 
Head.

Reason: Your body is "programmed" (by who or what is debatable, haha) to give your brain priority over everything else. So your nutrients, blood flow, etc. are going to keep it at its normal "operating" temperature, first and foremost.

Core/Torso:

Reason: Same reasoning, except that now we are on a level two priority. Your core contains all of your vital organs. I used to laugh at the kids with the vests back in the day (Mork?), but if you keep your head and core warm, you would be surprised how efficiently your body is going to distribute the remaining "extra" heat to your arms.

Layers:

As discussed above, layers are great at trapping warmed air, dissipating moisture, and they are versatile for providing varying levels of insulation.
 
I used to be a climber and proffessional gear tester. I've got whole rooms full of gear, so I can choose what I want. For a cold, wet climate though, IMO the absolute best is the Buffalo Double-P (Pertex and pile) system. It represents excellent value for money, is the first choice of the British SBS and secretly of many mountaineers (who wear their sponsors clothing over the top!), and has saved countless lives. You don't need thermal underwear or waterproofs. I know one SBS guy who used the basic S6 shirt in Canada at -37, and mountaineer Doug Scott survived 2 nights in the open at 8000m wearing the full outfit. Check it out, you won't be disappointed.
 
I used to be a climber and proffessional gear tester. I've got whole rooms full of gear, so I can choose what I want. For a cold, wet climate though, IMO the absolute best is the Buffalo Double-P (Pertex and pile) system. It represents excellent value for money, is the first choice of the British SBS and secretly of many mountaineers (who wear their sponsors clothing over the top!), and has saved countless lives. You don't need thermal underwear or waterproofs. I know one SBS guy who used the basic S6 shirt in Canada at -37, and mountaineer Doug Scott survived 2 nights in the open at 8000m wearing the full outfit. Check it out, you won't be disappointed.

You forgot to mention that Ray Mears is also a big fan of Buffalo.
I have the S6 shirt, Hooded Belay jacket and Tec-lite bottoms...best stuff I ever bought !!!:thumbup:

Oh yeah and the sleeping bag...man does that feel nice to curl up into !!!!!
 
Great stuff Pitdog! You tried the tent boots?! :)
 
No I didn't know they made those, I have the Mitts, damn does that mean I'm gonna be spending more money !!!!!

Do you live in the UK then Jack ?
 
You forgot to mention that Ray Mears is also a big fan of Buffalo.

I knew Ray back in the days when he was called Raymond and lived with his mum! I was always pushing the Buffalo gear, but he wasn't a fan at the time. By coincidence, it was Ray who put me onto Snowsled who made my climbing smock, which I've just used as a background to photograph some stuff for another thread! :)

No I didn't know they made those, I have the Mitts, damn does that mean I'm gonna be spending more money !!!!!

I certainly hope they still make them because they're a great bit of kit! Got mine about 10 years ago, and they make a big difference inside the bag as well as on the tent floor. The mitts are great aren't they? And what about that hood?! :) All the Buffalo stuff I've used has been absolutely fantastic. I could talk about it all night!! :D
 
Do you live in the UK then Jack ?

Sorry Pitdog, missed that! Yeah, I'm originally from Sheffield where Buffalo is made. One of the best discoveries I ever made.
 
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