Anybody here into air rifles?

Runs With Scissors said:
The 392 is okay, it still needs the sear from Charlie Da Tuna installed in it and I'm gonna throw a fixed 4x of some sort on it. :D
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I have a new 392 I got after Christmas, just recieved my SuperSears the other day. My review of them~~

As you probably know, they come in a package of two, and I have only had time to play with one of them so far. I don't remember right now which one I installed, but at this point is no longer matters as I have done some smoothing and altering anyway.

Strait from the package it did indeed change the factory pull. As you also probably know, they are a two stage sear. The one that I installed had a very scratchy first stage, but the second stage did break clean and quite lite. I could deal with the scratchy first stage EXCEPT, there were times that it was so scratchy that I couldnt tell when it transitioned from the first stage to the second.

So, knowing I had both the stock sear, and the second SuperSear as backups in case I screwed up, I went to work with files, wet dry sandpaper and dremels. I did go slow and careful, and when I got done I wound up with a very nice, clean breaking ONE stage trigger pull. I tend to prefer single stage triggers anyway. I don't have a trigger pull scale, but I do have number of small bore rifles and pistols and have them all measured, and shoot often enough to have pretty good idea of what things feel like.

Before I modded the sear, I will say the second stage was breaking at very close to two pounds, which in my opinion on a backyard air rifle is quite nice. BUT as I said the first stage sometimes made it a guessing game as to when I arrived at the second stage. After my filing and polishing I am going to say that I know have a clean crisp single stage 3+ pound trigger. Not bad. Since I do have the other Supersear for a backup, I may do a little more fileing and polishing and see what happens.

All and all I would buy another SuperSear set if or when I get another Benji. $20.00 isn't bad considering you get two, and considering the sloppy tolerances in the Benji's trigger housing it would be asking a lot for a perfect trigger pull without sending in your entire housing to a "smith."
 
PWork said:
OK, you guys got me considering the Benjamin. How is the Benji pistol?

Paul
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Can't speak for the Benji pistol, but maybe someone around here can~
http://www.network54.com/Index/12861
I do have a Crosman 1377 which is a pretty neet pumper pistol if you surf the link I just posted you will find many many things to do to it.

Since Crosman now owns Benjamin it is a good place to talke about Benji's too.
 
Thanks for posting the sear review, Knzn! It's nice to be aware of what I'm getting into with these. In any case it can hardly get any worse than the one I have in there. I can literally hear it creaking and cracking as it's being pulled when my father-in-law and I shoot it in his basement.
 
I found this thread to be extremely intruguing -0 i came across this webpage when searching for additional reading material, perhaps somebody else might find it interesting as well so here it goes, "The Lewis and Clark Air Rifle": http://www4.vmi.edu/museum/air_rifle.html - what a feat of engineering this must have been in early 1800s !!!
 
The old big bore air rifles are incredible works of art, especially the English models. Most are lavishly engraved and made for wealthy nobility. The seals on these were made from horn! Pretty amazing.
 
The benjamins are multi-pump.
The others mentioned are spring piston powered which means you either fold the barrel or a lever to compress a spring piston. They give a lot higher power with a single stroke. My Gamo has a cocking effort of about 35 lbs if I remember right, but that one stroke gives you 1000fps. You have to pump a benjamin 8 times to get 800fps.
 
PWork said:
OK, you guys got me considering the Benjamin. How is the Benji pistol?

Paul
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From what little I've Heard the Benji's are decent little jobs. If it were my money though, I'd go with a Beeman Hurricane or Tempest. Spring action, no muli-pumping or Co2 cartridges, and they are fun as heck.
 
I have been into the high end airguns since I was in school thirty years ago. My dad got me into the german springers back then in the form of the pre beeman hw- beeman r series guns. I still have my hw 50 springer that I got back then I shot it so much I can't even imagine having not had it. I finally put a spring in it after all these years- not because it was not workin anymore but because I found forums like these for airguns and got "I need to modify/tune it itis. I have a sheriden I got way back too. I like it also. I couple years back my interest was renewed and expanded and I have a few more of the r series guns- a couple match/olympic quality rifle/pistols an air arms tx200, and even a .50 cal capable of harvesting deer sized game. I find the QUALITY airguns definately worth having. I don't much care for the cheaper ones though I have a couple. If you like to shoot they are great for practice,pest control and not having to leave home. BTW I would search the net and research before you buy. Just l;ike you should with the knives.
here are a few pistola's
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Yup, love airguns. I've had my share of Crosman, Daisy, etc. Right now I'm down to one Beeman and my Logan Gladi8tor. The Gladi8tor is doing about 35 fpe right now, and is equipped with a Nikko Sterling 24x illuminated mil-dot scope. Those backyard cans don't stand a chance. :D After getting it resighted in yesterday, I managed to get a 60 yard hit on an Aquafina water bottle lid right in the center. Love them PCPs. :D

- Mark
 
tallpaul said:
My dad got me into the german springers back then in the form of the pre beeman hw- beeman r series guns. I find the QUALITY airguns definately worth having.
here are a few pistola's
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Thanks for showing off your pistols. Great stuff. I could see myself getting into some of the "upper end" air guns someday. I am lucky to have had a Grandfather who was a small bore shooter, and have his Winchester 52 and 75, both great .22's. My Uncles have his Martini and a couple of others that are very sweet shooters.

So between my Grandfather, Father, and some of the .22's I have accumulated, I guess I just havent gotten around to serious air yet. Someday though!
 
What kind of range do pistols/rifles have? :D

Sorry for hopping in with a question and nothing to add... :footinmou
 
Hotrod said:
What kind of range do pistols/rifles have? :D

Sorry for hopping in with a question and nothing to add... :footinmou
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Range for what ? - formal target is ten meters, guys shoot 50- yards and greater depending on the guns. Depends on how much you practice etc. They are not toys and can be deadly. range really depends on which guns you are talking about and what the intended use is really.... sorry can't be a whole lot more specific...
 
I have and shoot a .25 cal Crow Magnum IV. About 700 fps with 30gr match pellets. This is a handmade gun by Theoben in England, and imported by Beeman. It has beautifully polished metal (barrel by Walther) and an African hardwood stock as nice as any straight grained walnut. It weighs about 10 lbs with the scope, so nice and steady to shoot off-hand.
It's pretty high tech in that it uses a pneumatic spring, so there's no metal spring to fatigue over time and lead to a loss of power. It's a break barrel single stroke and takes about 60lbs of force to charge. The wife can't do it, and I start to feel it after about 50 rounds. Definately childproof.
It will split a coke can full of water like a .22 rifle, and nails rabbits to the spot, and you hear the pellet go whaaaaang!, as it ricochets into the distance with hardly a loss of velocity (I live out in the country, so no worries). Recently made a 69 yard (lasered) shot on a rabbit that didn't move when it got hit. WHOP! You know when you hit 'em.
Topped with a 6.5x20 Leupold EFR scope with a mil-dot recticle that will focus to 10 meters, and can take the recoil. Nicer set up than most firearms. You'd be amazed at what you can find when you start to look around.
 
Just wanted to say thanks for the evil influence. Thanks to the evile influence of this thread I've just finished ordering a .25 caliber RWS Model 48. :D :D Now I got a reeeaaallly cool gun coming home, and alot of scrambling to do to pay for it.


Damn I can't quit grinnin'...I'll let y'all know how it shoots!
 
Congrats runs with scissors, when you get the airgun you will need to learn to shoot it. A springer type airgun will be hold sensitive. You will not really want to firmly rest it or "squeeze" it too hard to yourself. Sometimes a new guy gets frustrated with accuracy because a springer will actually have a "learning curve"
to it.... just outa curiousity why a .25 to start? yes they have "power" but cost more to shoot.... God Bless-paul
 
Hey TallPaul I used to shoot 10m standing rifle in the UK, my first was an Original 66 (spring recoiless)

http://www.chambersgunmakers.co.uk/Diana-Original plans/Diana 60 plan.htm

my dad shot an Air Match (Pneumatic recoiless)

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As far as I am concerned the only air guns worth buying are either German or British. The Beeman is basically a Weihrauch so its fine. The US never really got into making airguns the way the Europeans did due to the availability and price of firearms, be they rim or centrefire.
 
Temper said:
As far as I am concerned the only air guns worth buying are either German or British. The Beeman is basically a Weihrauch so its fine. The US never really got into making airguns the way the Europeans did due to the availability and price of firearms, be they rim or centrefire.
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Nothin to disagree with there... there are a couple american mades worth having though... some high end limited production stuff at that, even the cheaper stuff can be fun, just realize there is better quality out there that will add to the enjoyment and capabilities of the airguns... oh btw some of the czech stuff is GREAT that IZZY 46 is pretty awesome although not as refined.
 
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