Anybody here into air rifles?

tallpaul said:
Congrats runs with scissors, when you get the airgun you will need to learn to shoot it. A springer type airgun will be hold sensitive. You will not really want to firmly rest it or "squeeze" it too hard to yourself. Sometimes a new guy gets frustrated with accuracy because a springer will actually have a "learning curve"
to it.... just outa curiousity why a .25 to start? yes they have "power" but cost more to shoot.... God Bless-paul
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Thanks! Hopefully it won't be too steep of a learning curve for me.

As far as the .25....they were outta stock. Instead I got a model RWS Model 46 in .22 caliber, which is fine, I like it just as well, and I was feeling a little nervous about the .25 caliber ammo availability anyways.

If anyone else is in the market, I'd really suggest stopping by Airguns Express and taking a peek. Particularly, There's a RWS model 34 demo there for $125 or so that I'm tempted to get also because I just can't walk away from the deal.
 
I figured that is what you were thinkin. I have had the .177's for years and in multiple forms. The .177 has worked great for pest control for me for 25 plus years. I did get a .20 cal and may very well get something like an air arms s410e in .22 someday but I really figure if I need that power a .22 LR out of a bolt gun would be better (for me) anyhow. I have been getting .177 round nose and wadcutters for 4-6 dollars 500 thats cheap shootin.... I think your .22 will do fine service. I think the "big bores" of .25 and up in the airguns are definately neat but I feel they are a bit more specialized or for the guy that has a few standard guns already or a severe need to go airgun for somewhat bigger game. I believe in having pellets ahead and have over 50,000 on hand , I think I need some more though :rolleyes:
 
WoW! what a lot of responses......

First check out the Airgun Forum join and ask questions there.

PCP air-rifles were the rage - as one could get a lot of power with very good shooting characteristics - in fact most of the field air-rifle competitions are now dominated by PCP airguns.

PCP? - Pre-Charged-Pnuematic - ie: there is a reservior "tank", normally like a tube below the barrel, which one charges up (either manually via pump or via an air/scuba tank) the reservoir holds enough air for many shots per full charge.

But they are relatively expensive and the accessories are too.

Back-tracking - the ones I grew up with were not the cheapest but the least costly to maintain/feed and the most efficient - the "springer" - I like break barrel springers - a single stroke to cock, the break barrel design exposes the breech to load the pellet - but when they get too powerful - they are hard to cock and have harsh shooting behavior/recoil. Round about 10 to 18 ft-lb energy is about optimum for power/behavior ratio.

.22cal are almost always more efficient than .177cal in utilization of the limited power plants in any type of airgun.
.25cal would be even more efficient - but then the pellets are too heavy and the velocity of the projectile suffers.
.20cal is an in betweeny calibre - but to me kind of a worst of both worlds - an they just don't show enough advantage to standardize on (it's bad enough that .22cal are already harder to find than .177)

I am biassed toward break barrel springers - of those I'd recommend looking at -

BSA SuperSport .22
personal favorite (seems like it's being discontinued for the USA - it used to be just under $200 and a real favorite at Airgun Forum - so if you see it, buy it if you can....)

(Diana) RWS-94
Very powerful for the price, but not such a good trigger (another being discontinued?).

Beeman R9
this is bascially the Weihrauch HW95 in Europe - long time favorite but only in .177 and .20cal in the USA :( - but fabulous trigger - one of the very best on a springer - perhaps more refined than the BSA SuperSport, but also a lot more expensive......

Webley Stingray
another rival to the BSA SuperSport - more luxurious perhaps a bit more refined - but used to be more costly too.

I don't like multi-pump pnuematics like the typical Crosmans -
seems like a lot of pumping just to get a single full powered shot.

I prefer on the low priced end their
Crosman 2260 - co2 air-rifle about 10+ft-lb and uses co2 cartridges - but almost all the good behavior of a PCP but at a rock bottom price.

I think that's enough from me :D

Oh! Scopes! - any scope is fine on a pnuematic airgun like the PCPs, co2 and multi-pumps -
BUT on the Springer this is an entirely different matter - one MUST buy a scope that is airgun - specifically Springer rated -
as a Springer has a scope destroying TWO-way recoil - that can actually be harder than many Magnum guns! ... please see this page for more info.


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Well...the Model 46 came in today. Got to shoot it a few times. Really like the gun overall, except for one fatal flaw...it came out of the box cocked. Got only knows how long it had been stored that way. Unfortunately, it seems woefully underpowered. It's supposed to be pushing 780 FPS, but is instead not performing as well as my humble little Benji 392, and it's about on par with my well used Benji 342. Unfortunately, I don't have a Chrony, but I tested it over and over again on several different books, boards, pieces of sheet metal etc. with the same results: the Diana Never seeming to surpass the 392.

I called them, and they're paying to have the rifle shipped back, examined, and repaired/ refunded at my discretion- they're definitely being fair about things. I still hate getting my wonderful new toy and send it off again the next day.

It sucks when you have to suffer for someone else's incompetence, carelessness, or stupidity. :grumpy: :grumpy:

And I kinda feel bad for Airguns Express too, cause they fully believe the box was never opened while in thier possession, so they're kinda suffering for someone elses mistake as well. Apparently the damn rifle has been stored cocked since it left Germany. :(
 
I just happen to go through older post and saw this thread. I buy, customize and also re-sell air rifles in .22 and .177 if you need a tune up or a change to your rifle contact me. Geno Denning @www.cavemanengineering.com have a work are to work on all aspects of airrifles. Thanks, Geno Denning
 
i have a Sheridan .20 that I've had since I was about 18. But don't currently have anywhere to shoot it. Bummer. Don't have my own property. I live in the Santa Cruz area if anyone knows or has property to share with me. :-)
 
thats the nice thing about airguns... I shoot mine inside ALOT. If you are a decent shot and have the right backstop it is safe and fun. The sheriden can be shot with two oor three pumps. Of course you need to obey local ordinences and be knowledgeable enough to be safe... or maybe trade it off for a knife :eek:
 
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