Anyone else get lonely?

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Anyone else get lonely? I admit it can be nice and peaceful to get in the shop and just play away all alone, but sometimes I get these nasty bouts of loneliness. Everyone in my family is sort of tired of hearing about blades, none of my regular friends have any sort of interest in blades, and I am almost to the point of being a shut in hangin' on this computer so much. What are some of your cures for the lonely bladesmith blues?
 
First post here.:thumbup: Yeah Sam, I know just what you mean, nobody ever comes to my studio, it's just me and my dog Meg, but at least I have some company. Sometimes I do wish I had some friends close by that had an interest in swords and wanted to hang out a bit, would be nice. I just pop in a movie(usually either The Yakuza with Robert Mitchum or Conan the Barbarian) and work with that playing in the background, all the "riddle of steel" talk really gets me in the mood.:D
 
I go visit two other knifemakers near by and we "talk shop". One lives west of me and one just south, 15 to 20 minute drive. Tom Krien sent me his number and he lives bout an hour away, think I am gonna call him soon....
 
I don't have time to get lonely. My shop time is limited to weekends. Being and old Phart, by the time I get home from work during the week, there's not much left.

For the last 4 months I have been remodeling our bedroom, setting up a mini mill(done) , rebuilding a 9 x 22 lathe and sneaking in a little knife work.
My wife is helping with all the projects, sometimes including the knife work. We talk "shop" all the time.

I live near a couple of great knife makers, Stuart Willis and Bryan Goode, and don't have time to visit(yet).

Mike
 
After going fulltime, I've found that I do get some cabin fever a lot more. I've been listening to a lot of audiobooks when I'm doing the really boring stuff like hand-rubbing.

Charlieridge -- where are you located? I'm out of Springfield.
 
I have taken to holding an open house every other Tuesday night, I call it a Coffee Break.

Open invitation to anyone interested in knives so it attracts other makers, collectors, chefs, leather workers, militaria collectors and such. It really is something to look forward to.

George
 
Of course I do.
But, after 35 years of others always telling me what to do, it's a welcome feeling.
Sam, consider it an opportunity and a blessing.
It's a chance to focus on something you love with no distractions.
Get your knife making skills to the point where you can create a small inventory and do knife shows, Man! Meet the public and make a bunch of new knife making friends and new customers.
I could spend 1/2 my day on the phone or computer communicating to other smiths, old customers, new customers, outlets, knife dealers, etc.
Just chill a little bit.
Make some good stuff.
Hone your techniques.
You have this opportunity to focus.
Don't look back, in the years to come, upon this moment, and discover that you didn't take advantage of it.
 
Anyone else get lonely? I admit it can be nice and peaceful to get in the shop and just play away all alone, but sometimes I get these nasty bouts of loneliness. Everyone in my family is sort of tired of hearing about blades, none of my regular friends have any sort of interest in blades, and I am almost to the point of being a shut in hangin' on this computer so much. What are some of your cures for the lonely bladesmith blues?

Man oh man Sam, I was just tellin Mace, not 5 minutes ago, about how there is nobody, and I mean nobody even remotely close to me.

I can relate brother !! :thumbup:
 
Thats funny. Its gotten so that I'm reluctant to talk to my friends about my knives anymore. I can tell they're just listening to be nice. They've no interest in any new skill I've accomplished, or any new design I've drawn up. I can't stand being patronized, but thats the best they can do. They don't care about knives. I don't blame them. I just don't talk knives much. My wife long ago stopped pretending, and simply rolls her eyes. I appreciate her honest disdain.
 
Man none of my friends are interested in knives or any weapon for that matter. I get ostrisized for carrying a small knife with me and its even worse when I take it out to cut something. Thats why I go down to IG's, build knives, talk knives/guns. gain knoweledge.

Oh and It was painful after scoring my first anvil and had no one that would listen to me brag about it
 
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My girlfriend is very generous with her attention. She SAYS she likes my weird hobbies. Her brother is (sort of) a knifemaker too, but I can't really talk to him. He makes knives with bottle openers on the butt end out of railroad spikes and poor copies of the WSK from The Hunted. I keep trying to get him talking about good steels and heat-treating and he wants to show me the 8" sickle he made out of a spike. He's only 23 so maybe he'll grow out of it. She tells me I'm a snob. She's got a point but I still think it's okay to have standards.
 
Nope!!!!!:D I have people over here almost every Saturday and calls during the week from fellow knifemakers and soon to be ones too.;):thumbup::D
 
Yes Sam, I am glad to see the number of affirmative posts that you are getting so that I can know it is not just me. There are days I feel I am even less productive in my shop because there is no stimulation from social interaction. I have two dogs that give momentary breaks from the monotony, but let’s face it an occasional wet nose wanting to be petted is not social interaction. For years I have listened to talk radio in order to hear human voices, and keep up on current affairs in the outside world, but lately I have even turned that off as I have become so jaded with our political system that listening to either sides platitudes only makes me depressed by the incredible levels of ignorance the general population is capable of.

I have always been quite isolated in the middle of rural MI (when I tested for my stamps the closest mastersmith was Jim Porter in southernmost Indiana), so there is not much opportunity for knife talk. And after doing this for this many years I find myself hesitating or just answering “metalworker” when I am asked what I do for a living, in order to avoid having to educate or entirely re-educate the person before the conversation can proceed, and in that time you could have been talking about things that both of you would have found stimulating. I know I would rather talk about the weather with a person if at any point in this introduction they mention something they saw, read or heard about Japanese swords smiths:rolleyes:, it is a sure sign that this is the type of person who gets their news from John Stewart or Oprah and I can expect the conversation to be about as deep as a mud puddle. I also hesitate when asked what I do, because for many “knifemaker” means you grind old files like uncle Clemm does, and they will immediately follow with “yes but what do you do for a living”. And it is even worse if you say you make swords. Then it is either images of skulls, chains and leather, or 40 year old kids dressing up to still play dungeons and dragons in the park, or a combination of both, unless, of course, you say you studied in Japan. ;)

Rejoice Sam it can get worse! Imagine feeling lonely at a gathering of knifemakers! When you are a heretic with radical and “non-traditional” ideas life can be easier if you just keep your mouth shut and not try to correct that bit of atrocious fantasy that was just passed along as a valuable tip. As you have seen, when somebody makes definitive statements out of their opinions and you have the nerve to ask for some facts to back it up, you simply add a few more names to the enemy list. And say you are dying to explore the concept of shear type formation of austenite that you just read about, well who do you turn to? With exception of just a couple (like mete), metallurgists will simply switch to the “yes, yes you quaint little man!” approach when they find out you are a knifemaker, until you bounce something off them that they have a hard time keeping up with, and then the conversation is really over.

Due to the effect that the day in and day out isolation has had on my personality (people who have known me for years can see it) I have considered taking on an apprentice but a system where a competent person who has their entire day free to work with you for nothing more than the gaining of knowledge and skills does not work in the 21st century economy. Besides, perhaps the reason I am lonely is because I am not that easy to be around. This forum is good but more actual gathering jsut for the fun is better.

Your experience is not unique Sam, in fact I would be curious as to how many knifemakers may suffer slight depression due to the isolation an nature of the work.
 
Sam, actually getting in the shop alone is the cure for my "tired of dealing with people blues". I do feel your pain to some extent, because I think about steel/knives/design way too much and somewhat isolate myself from others sometimes. Occasionally I just have to get away from it and let my brain rest. I also have to remind myself of what takes priority over building knives--such as family and spending some quality time with those I love. Luckily my wife has started decorating sheaths and is really liking leather tooling, so it helps to have a "partner in crime".
 
Being a full time PT, I'm working directly with people all day long. After I'm done, it's over to the fiance's house most nights or to a home health patient's house. Like Mike said, I don't have much time to be lonely any more.

Erin is wonderful, and she supports me fully in my knifemaking, but she doesn't have or care to have the knowledge to carry on a knife conversation. I guess it's good I like the hollow sound of my own voice :D. Luckily, I'm blessed to live in the great state of Texas, and better yet in West Texas. Most men and a good many women here carry a knife (at least...maybe some heat as well :D), so it's easy to find people who are interested in what I have to say. I'm surprised by how many patients I've come across who have ordered a knife from me or are always asking me if I've got anything new I'm working on. I appreciate their interest greatly, I've made some great contacts and learned a good bit just from talking to the people I treat on a daily basis.

I've been on the loney road before, however, and I feel you. It's surprising how lonely it can be even in a room full of people sometimes.

--nathan
 
Due to the effect that the day in and day out isolation has had on my personality (people who have known me for years can see it) I have considered taking on an apprentice but a system where a competent person who has their entire day free to work with you for nothing more than the gaining of knowledge and skills does not work in the 21st century economy.

Damnit Kevin, you're going to make me quit my job and move to MI aren't you?!?!?! I can make my wife work to pay the bills right? :D

-d
 
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