Anyone else have a 3V knife outperform their Busse?

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Maybe this is what happened???


2: an edge mash.
an edge mash is when you hit something dead on, like a peice of metal, or a rock, that causes teh metal to push into itself, mushrooming out the sides. this can be pushed back into form with steeling, though this is harder to do then with a dent. no metal is removed in this deformation.


But it doesnt sound like it would happen to a steel as hard as INFI.

Again I dont honestly know but it was so minor it didnt really bother me.
 
And the old A2 is quite a versatile steel.

I love my Busses old and new( prefer my old though) and I love my Fehrman Extreme Judgment (Busse made it first). I've never not used one of those 2 brands because I thought it couldn't handle the job.
 
Jerry Busse said:
Accelerated salt spray tests show a huge difference in corrosion resistance and pitting between the two steels. . . . INFI was the clear winner. :thumbup:

Under heavy impact on hard subtrates we found micro chipping along the edge of 3V blades as opposed to minor disallingment on INFI. :thumbup:

Lateral strength tests as well as ease of resharpening also went in favor of INFI.:thumbup:

We have done a LOT of in-house testing with 3V. We still use INFI. . . . there's a reason for that.

When we find a steel that out performs INFI across the board, you can rest assured that we will be using that steel instead of INFI.

Want a better comparison? Put 3V up against SR-101. They are much closer in performance with us giving the nod to SR-101 for superior toughness, impact strength, lateral strength, and edge-holding. 3V is, however, much more corrosion resistant than SR-101.

Our "LIVE" performance demonstration has stood the test of time since 1999. Any maker or manufacturer who wants to duplicate our "LIVE" demos with 3V or any other steel is more than welcome to do so. We only insist that these "LIVE" performance tests be performed by the maker or manufacturer themselves.

This offer has been extended to the entire industry for the past 14 years. . . . There have been no takers to this date.

That being said, it is important to note that there are many fine steels out there and there are many that excell at particular performance demands.

For the demands that our knives are designed to be put through, INFI is by far the clear winner. :thumbup:

Let's Drink! :thumbup:

Jerry :D
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why not do some d-tests on infi ,SR101&3v , then release them to the audience here,boss ?
normally speaking , makers Deliberately avoid getting into conflicts with others or another maker . man, for those years , is there any one really stand up and make a live demo to Challenge you ?

i do not wanna ruin your reputation on the market , i am a buyer here , have few busse knives , once i'd chopped a L-bar with a buss knife , and i get some wounds on the edge , as you said above , i get disallingment , but not minor , no complaint here , cuz i use full power . but , there is lacking sufficient comparision here , so i can not say it tough or not tough.

i am a knife-nut , i rally like tough steel. so i lingered here and noss's forum for years, recently i brought a ontario sp51 gen2 made of 5160 steel , is it tougher than plain carbon steels ? how do you call infi , if set 5160 as a Reference ?

dingy

ps: thank you boss for donating one to noss to do de-test , very cool Attitude.
 
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That video of the 3V pitting is plain nasty. That is one reason I went with the coated version. I keep the edge wiped down with EEZOX.
 
worldwood said:
I like how well EEZOX works but that smell kills me.
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I personally don't mind the smell myself, but I read on a thread somewhere that it is supposed to be quite toxic. I just need more INFI. Another ASHBMCG with tan G-10 handles sounds good.
 
southernknives said:
I personally don't mind the smell myself, but I read on a thread somewhere that it is supposed to be quite toxic. I just need more INFI. Another ASHBMCG with tan G-10 handles sounds good.
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I LOVE Eezox, I use it on a lot of my guns and most of my tools, I've tried at least a dozen different high end "CLP"s and it blows everything away in the P category. Hands down awesome. But I ONLY use Frog Lube on my knives - each has the the potential to A) prepare food and B) cut me - either way I don't want Eezox or another compound in my body.

After my first pitting experience I make sure to clean my 3V knife immediately and reapply Frog Lube and haven't had any problems since - but I am reluctant to take it camping/hiking/etc where I can't clean/lube it immediately. Might be safer if I did use Eezox, but I'll just stick with Infi slathered in FL, it doesn't rust.
 
rgoziner said:
I'll just stick with Infi it doesn't rust.
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Trimmed the fat, so to speak. If you dry your Busse after you wash the whatever off, it's good to go in my experience.
It doesn't make sense on paper, with only half a point of chromium, but it is truly about the ratio of carbon vs those purty lil chromium molecules.
From the mind of an inebriated super genius comes INFI.
Available now.
 
I live near the Ocean and hardly ever clean my Fehrmans. Never have problem with rust. heat treat from manufacturers on 3v differ and that's why rust problems might occur on one 3v blade more then on another. Same go's for performance
 
SO your saying the heat treat affects how easily it rusts?

I dont understand that. Can you explain please?
 
worldwood said:
SO your saying the heat treat affects how easily it rusts?

I dont understand that. Can you explain please?
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Well, I slept in a Holiday Inn once, so I'll take shot at this.

Different HT profiles will give different metal grain size and structure, and I could see that affecting corrosion resistance.
 
voracious1 said:
Just to be fair, I gotta say I never clean my fermanns either.
....what's a fermann?
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Its a guy in Canada that traps beavers, skins them and sells the pelts.........duh.
but I think it is spelled Fur Man, like a mountain man but different.
 
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