Anyone here carry a knife for selfdefense?

Originally posted by Medic1210
Are you for real?! The only thing that banning guns does is prevent law abiding citizens from carrying guns. It doesn't prevent criminals who, by the way, are the ones you have to worry about, from carrying guns. If you think that just because guns are banned, that you don't need to worry about protecting yourself from some thug with a gun, you've got blinders on to the world.

Criminals and the government prefer unarmed victims.

Enough said,

Mike
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dude
have u noticed where i'm from? :rolleyes: :D
you're not wrong, btw, just that what you're saying REALLY doesn't apply to my parts :)

anyway imo being armed is more of a state of mind
everyone's got 2 hands. right?
 
Originally posted by DEA
dude
have u noticed where i'm from? :rolleyes: :D
you're not wrong, btw, just that what you're saying REALLY doesn't apply to my parts :)
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I see you're from Singapore, and am not real familiar with your laws. BTW, what did I say that doesn't apply to your area? Was it the part about the guns? If so, do you really think that criminals don't have guns there? I wasn't referring to you not having a gun, just to your comment about you not needing a knife for SD because nobody there has guns because they are banned. Drugs are banned in the US, but plenty of people use them anyway. I've always said that the only way to stop crime is to completely make everything legal (of course I don't suggest this, but it is the only way). Banning guns only takes them away from the law abiding citizen, not the criminal, so my statement would apply to your area. If I have misunderstood what you were saying, please correct me.

Mike
 
Originally posted by DEA
i would tend to agree with shmoopie
given that guns are banned in my parts, all the defense one needs is against someone's fists
against knives, i'd rather rely on slash resistant gloves because i'm much better with my bare fists than i am with knife fighting techniques (probably because i don't get any practice with knife fighting at all :rolleyes: :) )
my 2 cents :D
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I hope for your sake that what you said remains true for you, but I really hope you don't continue to believe that just because something is "banned" that that means none of the bad guys have access to it. Guns are banned in Jamaica, England, Japan, Mexico, etc. and look at those places!

How can you say that all the defense one needs is against someone's fists? No one can pick up a blunt object in Singapore? What about if you're facing FIVE guys with blunt objects, who are angry because you may have flirted with one of them's girlfriend? Even if you had a knife there, you'd be kinda screwed.

I don't carry a knife for protection per se. I carry a gun for that. Here in the U.S. (at least in certain parts) it is recognized as logical that people should be allowed the means to defend themselves since they have an innate right to live. In keeping with my desire to not have to kill someone, I carry professional-grade pepper spray, a knife, an ASP baton, and a subcompact Glock. If there's a bum at my car window and I can't just drive away from him, guess what's coming out first -- and it's not the Glock. I'll mace him, and if that doesn't work I'll probably whack him with the baton, unless he's REALLY aggressive and maybe has a weapon of his own. I'm sure as hell not going hand-to-hand if he has anything besides his own hands as weapons. I'm not taking a chance on baton-ing a knife out of his hands: in that circumstance, he's getting shot. Or at least, that's how the theory goes. I'm glad to say I've never had to defend my life; I remain alert and prepared nonetheless. **** happens sometimes. No sense in getting caught off-guard and suffering the full brunt.

But please, don't speak of bans as though they really protect you. That's laughable.
 
Originally posted by DEA

everyone's got 2 hands. right?
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Nope. That's a generalization, sort of like assuming the bad guys don't have guns. Some have only one hand, some have none, and in extremely rare cases, some even have three.;)
 
I was being sardonic. Yes. It was a joke. OBTW, care = car. My intent is never to use a knife for OFFENSIVE purposes. I put DEFENSIVE to juxtapose the lack of an implied threat using a knife as a TOOL. You may know it as camoflauge or re-direction. Perhaps PASsIVE use of a knife would be a more appropriate word. OBTW, my background is mostly in Filipino martial arts including eskrima and kali. I am presently training in Sayoc Kali. I think you can come to your own conclusions. No insult intended by me.

Originally posted by Medic1210
Are you for real? Is this a joke? I've never had a car wreck, but I carry the best auto insurance I can afford, and I always wear my seatbelt. Just because you have never had a need for one for self defense, doesn't mean nothing will ever happen to you. There's always a first for everything.



Are you for real?! The only thing that banning guns does is prevent law abiding citizens from carrying guns. It doesn't prevent criminals who, by the way, are the ones you have to worry about, from carrying guns. If you think that just because guns are banned, that you don't need to worry about protecting yourself from some thug with a gun, you've got blinders on to the world.

Criminals and the government prefer unarmed victims.

Enough said,

Mike
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Medic1210.

Guns (for personal carry) are banned here too. You would probably be better off getting bashed by some punks than getting caught with a gun on the street here the punishment is that bad.

All Knives (except disposable plastic eating knives) are banned here for carry also. I carry anyway for self defense on public transport and like CRKT point guard and Benchmade 885BT.
 
Originally posted by peacefuljeffrey
Guns are banned in Jamaica, England, Japan, Mexico, etc. and look at those places!
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Amen to that! If carry was legal here or illegal carry punishment was not so severe, I would definately carry, no question about it.

In fact I would also like to carry mace and/or a baton in addition to my knife but since they're all banned for carry here, I figure better walking around with one illegal thing in my pocket than 2 or 3.

If I get caught with anything they'll take away my firearms licence anyway.:grumpy:
 
Originally posted by Andrew
Medic1210.

Guns (for personal carry) are banned here too. You would probably be better off getting bashed by some punks than getting caught with a gun on the street here the punishment is that bad.

All Knives (except disposable plastic eating knives) are banned here for carry also. I carry anyway for self defense on public transport and like CRKT point guard and Benchmade 885BT.
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I wasn't suggesting DEA to carry a gun if they were illegal there. I was telling him not to believe for one minute that just because they are banned that he doesn't have to worry about a bad guy using one on him. After all, like I have said numerous times, gun bans only keep law abiding citizens from owning guns. Criminals will always carry a gun, whether they are banned or not.

Second, I don't think knives are banned in Singapore, so I was questioning why he felt he didn't need one for SD because guns were banned. As far as Austrailia's great method for disarming the law abiding citizens, I truely feel sorry for you brother. It has gotten beyond pathetic.

Best of luck,

Mike
 
As for me, I don't choose knife SPECIALLY for SD or fighting. But I always prefer one usable when sh... thing got really bad. ( My current EDC is 50/50 Endura FRN).
To COLDSTEEL03.
Nice handgun choise. PM maybe not perferct for army or police, but for civillian EDC -- nearly the best one.
 
Fixed blade Bud Nealy Aikuchi, for SD, Last Ditch/Hideout, attached to beltloop with a static cord, and stuffed in back pockect, why? it's one of the best, you'll never know till you try one.

And of coarse a BM AFCK, for obvious reasons.
 
I carry a small liner lock folder for everyday chores.
Is it for self defense? Weeeeeell... my proficiency in knife fighting is just slightly better than my skill in Aiku composing.
My primary weapon is a Key Defenderd OC spray (the only legal weapon everybody one can carry in Italy) which doubles as a kubotan.
I'd use the knife in extreme circumstances, obviously, but I don't carry it as a defense weapon nor rely on it for defense, I prefer much alert and avoidance.
I think that everything short of a handgun today is to be considered last ditch resource, not a defense weapon, unless you are a real master in knife fighting.

It's obviously far better than pleading for mercy to a murderer.
 
Carrying a knife specifically for use as a weapon is illegal in Ontario. All the knives I carry are for "utility";)
 
Originally posted by Andrew
Medic1210.

Guns (for personal carry) are banned here too. You would probably be better off getting bashed by some punks than getting caught with a gun on the street here the punishment is that bad.

All Knives (except disposable plastic eating knives) are banned here for carry also. I carry anyway for self defense on public transport and like CRKT point guard and Benchmade 885BT.
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Well, that's the sickening reality that the governments of Australia and England have created for those who live there.

I swear, it seems like your leaders are really moles, working undercover for the betterment and protection of your criminal class!

The question is: What are you attempting to do about it? You just gonna live under that kind of upside-down system until you die?

We had a revolution here because the government sucked that bad. When does yours start?
 
I live in Johannesburg, South Africa, where we carry quite a bit....

I ALWAYS carry a Spderco on me, but this is a TOOL. For SD I usually have a Glock and my ASP is always in my car. Out of the 33 knives in my collection, I usually carry one of three as a backup weapon:
1) Kershaw Amphibian
2) Gerber Guardian
3) CS Safekeeper III
I have really cool BM folders, SOG fixed blades, a couple of Spydies, more Gerbers, CS, etc etc, but this is what I like to carry.
 
Peacefuljeffrey. I think I am doing everything I can. Am a member of, and donate to SSAA-sporting shooters association of Australia (equivelant of NRA). I vote for the Shooters party at State and Federal elections.
 
Seriously, if your intent is to have an instrument of self defense on you, it's foolish to rely on a knife for self-defense if you haven't had any knife combat training. (I haven't, btw)

Sure, whipping it out could scare someone off, or it could escalate that situation out of control. So, if you draw a knife to use on someone, you should make damn sure you know how to use it-- otherwise things probably won't go they way you want them to.





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can you "flick" out an 806D2 AFCK blade with a flip of the wrist? (assuming that you didn't disengage the axis lock)

what about the 730 Ares?

Looking for a benchmade that won't get me in trouble for being a "gravity" knife.
 
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