Anyone who will NOT buy a Sage because they are made in Taiwan?

Golddust said:
I love Spyderco, I love the ergonomics, style, innovation, blades, so on and so forth. I have been looking for a strong EDC blade that will not make me think twice and I can have on my pocket for years which brought me to the Sage series of knives. The size, shape, materials, and simplicity are everything I am looking for in a knife and it would be perfect except for one thing, the knife is made in Taiwan and is stamped right on the blade. I know this shouldn't matter if the quality is solid but when I see it stamped on the blade it makes me sick to my stomach to think that it is the only thing stopping me from buying it. So I am wondering if anyone else has this problem and if anyone can help me overcome my thoughts?
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I would certainly not pass on a quality knife like the sage because of where it is made. I know how you feel though when you see it on the blade. I used to be a "buy in America" type of person but the quality of these knives are outstanding.

I remind myself that although I drive a Jeep, some of the parts are made overseas. I know this has been said over and over but our appliances, TV's, computers and a lot of other items we have in and around our home are made in other countries.

I try to BIA when I can and will do so if the quality is equal but in the same respect, I am not going to deny myself a quality product due to the made in {insert}
 
Golddust said:
I love Spyderco, I love the ergonomics, style, innovation, blades, so on and so forth. I have been looking for a strong EDC blade that will not make me think twice and I can have on my pocket for years which brought me to the Sage series of knives. The size, shape, materials, and simplicity are everything I am looking for in a knife and it would be perfect except for one thing, the knife is made in Taiwan and is stamped right on the blade. I know this shouldn't matter if the quality is solid but when I see it stamped on the blade it makes me sick to my stomach to think that it is the only thing stopping me from buying it. So I am wondering if anyone else has this problem and if anyone can help me overcome my thoughts?
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Where is your cell phone made?
or your TV set
or your PC?
or fridge, stove, microwave, wrist watch....
 
The Sage line and GB are often cited as examples of quality in the defense of Spyderco's Taiwan contractor. No doubt these are very good knives.

On the other hand, the Cat, Chicago, and first Bushcraft are other Spyderco's from Taiwan that did not turn out so well. In fact the problems with the the Cat and Chicago were so significant they were completely discontinued. The Bushcraft ended up being sold as a "second."
 
If it's good quality I'd definately buy a knife like the sage. It's backed by spyderco which is a top knife company IMO. Sal stands behind his stuff so I would have no hesitation in picking up a sage. Taiwan can make some decent stuff and like was said before, not a cheap chinese knockoff.:thumbup:
 
jurisprudence said:
The Sage line and GB are often cited as examples of quality in the defense of Spyderco's Taiwan contractor. No doubt these are very good knives.

On the other hand, the Cat, Chicago, and first Bushcraft are other Spyderco's from Taiwan that did not turn out so well. In fact the problems with the the Cat and Chicago were so significant they were completely discontinued. The Bushcraft ended up being sold as a "second."
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The Bushcraft problem had nothing to do with Taiwan. They bought what they thought were stabilized wood from a US source and it turned out they they were not , hence the later problems.
 
jonnymac44 said:
Price? Have you noticed the materials? Carbon fiber, titanium, S30V? These are top notch materials and many knives made stateside with those very materials would cost even more.
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Yea, the price is too high. The BM MPR and Subrosa are Titanium framelocks with S30v Blades and both are made in the USA for about the same price as the Sage.

So yea. It's overpriced.
 
Socom Elite said:
Yea it eats me up bad. I won't buy one cause of it. Also, why is it so expensive since it's made there?
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Taiwan is not a Communist country nor our enemy. That's enough for me.
The Sages are not expensive. If they were 100% made in the USA they'd cost twice as much. I seriously doubt any BM is the same level of fit, finish and materials as the Sage1 for $95.
 
hoopster said:
Taiwan is not a Communist country nor our enemy. That's enough for me.
The Sages are not expensive. If they were 100% made in the USA they'd cost twice as much. I seriously doubt any BM is the same level of fit, finish and materials as the Sage1 for $95.
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Sage I isn't too bad, but I still think it's overpriced. The Sage II is overpriced for being made overseas
 
I had a long reply written but it can be a touchy subject that goes much deeper than our knife world so I wiped it. It really boils down to personal feelings and everyone is entitled to their opinions, desires, etc.. Anyone who has had a Sage knows that the folks in Taichung are doing a phenomenal job. I showed some coworkers my Sage 1 and they oogled over it but I'll be damned if I didn't get a comment about "Taiwan". Their ignorance bothered me a bit although I didn't lose any sleep over it. Perception is a real thing and if a person is bothered by this then so be it. No one should be scorned.
 
Socom Elite said:
Yea, the price is too high. The BM MPR and Subrosa are Titanium framelocks with S30v Blades and both are made in the USA for about the same price as the Sage.

So yea. It's overpriced.
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169 for the sage 2 and 199 for the MPR, a 30 dollar difference when the cheaper knife has better fit and finish?
There have been threads before where Sal has talked about this, usually he states it pretty plainly that if they made the knife in the US it would cost a great deal more to get the quality up to the same point of the Taiwan made knives.

I buy almost exclusively US made tools and gear when I can, but I'm not about to sacrifice quality, and money spent to buy an inferior product just for a made in the US stamp, particularly on an allied country with a somewhat similar society. Now that doesn't mean I'll ever be buying a Chinese made hammer or screw driver, due to political differences and lack of quality compared to US basic hand tools
 
To the OP, if your purchase decisions are dictated by the country of origin then I am afraid you will miss out on many quality products made outside the States. For me, I have no qualms with buying an US Iphone, a Swiss watch, a German camera or a China thinkpad... So long as they are quality products in their category I think it is silly not to buy them for my use or enjoyment.

As for knives, I buy knives from Sweden (Fallkniven and Mora), France (Opinel), Germany (Boker), Switzerland (Victorinox) just to name a few... When it comes to custom knives the list gets even longer. Talents just abound in other parts of the world and they still exist even if you don't recognize them. If I confine my purchase to knives that are made locally I can only buy cleavers used in the kitchen. Will I be happy? No, and it doesn't make sense either.
 
Made in Taiwan is the main reason I don't own a Sage. I honestly believe if we don't support the US, someday there won't be a US. For that reason I've started trying to purchase only US made products.

Yes, I realize there are times when it's unavoidable and I have to buy a foreign made product to get what I need. That being said I will try to seek out US manufactures to support our economy.
 
These two beauties were made in Taiwan. :thumbup:

I doubt any one would question the quality of these knives given they were made by a master smith. ;)

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I try to keep my money in the American economy as much as I can. But, I really don't care where the heck a knife is made as long as it's of good quality. I like the Golden Spydies but there are a lot of great knives coming out Japan and Taiwan. Also, the Benchmade Red Class and Spyderco Byrd knives show that good knives can come out of China as well.
 
bchan77 said:
To the OP, if your purchase decisions are dictated by the country of origin then I am afraid you will miss out on many quality products made outside the States. For me, I have no qualms with buying an US Iphone, a Swiss watch, a German camera or a China thinkpad... So long as they are quality products in their category I think it is silly not to buy them for my use or enjoyment.

As for knives, I buy knives from Sweden (Fallkniven and Mora), France (Opinel), Germany (Boker), Switzerland (Victorinox) just to name a few... When it comes to custom knives the list gets even longer. Talents just abound in other parts of the world and they still exist even if you don't recognize them. If I confine my purchase to knives that are made locally I can only buy cleavers used in the kitchen. Will I be happy? No, and it doesn't make sense either.
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Amen brother!
 
If they do good work at a fair price I'll support them. The have families to feed to. Waiting for the blue handled g10 model.
 
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