Apology

I think you can still edit your post in a locked thread.

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"A knifeless man is a lifeless man"
-Nordic proverb
 
Coug: I think that the reaction to your post was a little too harsh. Your overall contributions to the forum have been considerable, valuable, and in general, fair.

You were even kind enough to consider posting intentionally erroneous information, so that when I posted a correction, I would finally be right! I still chuckle about that (Coug IS right nearly all the time!). Furthermore, your order of the CTT is one of the funniest gags on the forum, IMHO.

So, while you did cross over the line, and I do not condone what you did, I think that it is an atypical incident, and deserves forgiveness.

Yours in charity, Walt
 
Coug screwed up, and he's man enough to apologize for it, and that's big mensch points in my books. What more can you ask for?

Spark

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Cougar,I believe you can remove the content or just replace the content.I also found that I can't delete a whole post,the subject title is only editable by the moderator.Just don't make a mistake in the subject line,I mis- spelled a name of a product in the subject and can't fix it,you can fix anything in the main area.(I think)
 
Cougar,

Everyone has a bad day and we sometimes make bad decisions. Too bad that is everyday for me
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I appreciate the sentiments ... I am feeling more than a little embarrassed. I guess all I can do now is write a lot of good posts to try to make up for it insofar as possible.

On the technical question, it turns out you can't even get into the edit window on a locked thread; you just get a message saying posts in a locked thread cannot be edited. I guess the UBB people probably set it up so locking the thread changes the file attributes to read-only; that seems like it'd be the natural way to do it. If my guess is correct then even the moderators may not be able to edit it without unlocking the thread first -- and I'm not sure it's possible to unlock a thread; it might not have occurred to the UBB programmers that anyone might want to. Maybe my post will have to stand as a monument to a moment of thoughtlessness.

If I had my druthers I would delete the entire text of that post, replace it with a note explaining I had deleted it so as not to leave the replies hanging inexplicably, and let the thread continue, but that may not be possible. At worst the thread can be continued in a new thread with the same title, though.

-Cougar Allen :{)
 
Cougar,

There are SO many posts of yours that stand as monuments to moments of Brilliance and Greatness. No rational person is going to remember this incident at all in a few days. Your total body of work in these forums reflects a fair, honest, and unbelievably intelligent man who cares about both people and knives. I am sure that I am not the only one who owes you a large debt of gratitude for your help, both in public and behind the scenes. Thank-you.

Paracelsus
 
Cougar, your original post did not bother me as much as it bothered some, however, your apology impressed me more than i can say. as for feeling embarrassed, i thought you might appreciate this story:

back when i was in seminary, i noticed that my appointment book was getting rather full with undergraduates looking for a shoulder or some advice. now, those who know me know that i'm no saint--a phrase used about me is "she's often irritating but never boring!"--so i let it be known that if folks wanted to explain, i was interested in why they chose me over some of the more experienced, more "holy" types...

one young woman's answer has stuck with me: "your advice means something because you've been there--we know you're a screwup just like us, but you're a reforming screwup! you're a real person, not an angel who doesn't know how hard life can be."

after i swallowed my pride (imagine realizing that hundreds of undergraduates think of you as a "screwup"!) i took a look around, and realized that i, too, would rather have Real People (i like the word "mensch") for my friends, companions, and mentors. Mensches are so much more reachable...plus, now i know that when i screw up a post (and i will, it's only a matter of time), you'll be first in line to forgive me when i apologise!

it's normal to be embarrassed, but i wouldn't want to see your creativity held back out of embarrassment or fear of making mistakes. you're a wonderful writer on a number of topics. i look forward to reading you all the more now that i know you are such a mensch!

silverwing
 
Cougar Allen: I found what you said in the aforementioned thread to be jovial, albeit strangly out of place. I believe I posted some quip recently regarding "God" saying pretty much what you said, just as a joke.

I was not at all disturbed by what you said, although I was wondering if I missed the joke?, because it was a little out of place.

What REALLY disturbed me was TomW's remark. It was immature, disrespectful, and entirely unintelligent. He must not realize what a valuable asset CA is to the forums. How can he get away with spitting out those kinds of words?

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I must confess, I go to the locked threads first. I am drawn like a moth to a flame. I just want to see who screwed up, or just put their foot in their mouth. We all do it, it's so human.

Cougar, please don't let this cramp your style, and you do have style. You make this a better place.
 
Stompy
In your opinion it's mature, intelligent and respectful to attack a person in the forums
and call him names without any provocation but just the opposite to reply in a likewise manner. That's REAL intelligent.
 
TomW, what part of "Two wrongs don't make a right" is hard to understand?

Just like Cougar was wrong to post that about you, it was even more wrong for you to come back and do the same thing after I corrected him for it. You are not without blame in this matter, despite what you may think.

IMHO, you should drop this.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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Spark, Do you mean I have the Power to close any thread, by simply calling someone a theif, liar, cheat, idiot, etc?
Get all that Negative Attention. Then come back and say, "I'm Sorry." and be told what a Stand Up guy I am. That's not too bad a deal. No wonder so many people are doing it.
 
No, I tend not to lock threads, as a matter of fact, I'd wish some of the other moderators wouldn't be so quick on that trigger.

More often than not, I feel a quick reproach, reprimand or something is all it takes, and then the thread can keep moving back on it's original course. Nothing more really needs to be done.

I do agree that a lot of this "public apology" stuff is getting out of hand, and it doesn't excuse or mitigate the original behavior, but it is better than nothing.

Spark

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Well, thanks again Jeff, I just never will get tired of hearing that. I took some time to look up some of your old posts. I like the way you think also. Even though the most adventurious thing I do is ride the NYC subway 5 days a week. Don't laugh, it's a jungle out there.

PhilL
 
What can I say? I forgot what forum I was on and posted something inappropriate for this forum. I should have thought twice and realized that before posting. I didn't. When I did realize, I tried to edit the post and found I couldn't, so I posted an apology and asked the moderators to edit the post for me. (Apparently they can't edit it either now the thread is locked, or they would have done it by now.)

I don't feel I deserve any particular credit for apologizing under the circumstances, nor do I feel I deserve any particular blame for apologizing -- not that my opinion carries any more weight than anyone else's, but for what it's worth, I am not going to "stick to my guns" in the sense of claiming that post was appropriate here because it wasn't, and I am not going to "stick to my guns" in the sense of continuing any dialogue that would be inappropriate for this forum, either. If that disappoints anyone who was looking forward to a good flame war, go on over to rec.knives where that kind of thing goes on fairly regularly. If you want to see flames between Thomas Wilkinson aka TomW and me, search the archives at www.dejanews.com

This is supposed to be a flame-free forum and I don't disagree with that policy or want to change it. Customs vary in different parts of the net and I frequent some net communities where flaming is considered good clean fun and some, like this one, where it isn't. I usually don't have much problem remembering where I am, but this time I did.
The way I see it that was a basically stupid and thoughtless thing to do. It disrupted a perfectly good thread, though that's back on track now. Now it's started a controversy over whether my apology for it was commendable or cowardly ... frankly I can't see any merit to either view; I can't see that screwing up and apologizing for it is either anything particularly deserving of praise or anything cowardly or sneaky ... if anyone cares what I think....

I guess most of the talk about people posting things and then apologizing for them in this and the other thread is probably not referring specifically to me, but to the general phenomenon, so I am not taking any of it too personally.

-Cougar Allen :{)
 
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