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Those two words pretty much sum up your entire post.
A fanboy diatribe of worthless proportions. :yawn:
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Those two words pretty much sum up your entire post.
A fanboy diatribe of worthless proportions. :yawn:
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I recently had an employee from IBM in my office doing some developmental work on a Lotus Notes Server. He was using a Mac and VMWare to run his Windows Apps.
He seemed to be completely enamoured with the Mac. I on the other hand use a Lenovo Thinkpad T61p for development (and fun
). It doesn't have the neat magnetic power supply like the Mac does 
He seemed to be completely enamoured with the Mac. I on the other hand use a Lenovo Thinkpad T61p for development (and fun
). It doesn't have the neat magnetic power supply like the Mac does
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He seemed to be completely enamoured with the Mac. I on the other hand use a Lenovo Thinkpad T61p for development (and fun
The magnetic power cord is a killer feature. :thumbup:
One question: have you ever used a Mac for any length of time? If the answer is "no" then you have no right to knock it. None. I guess some people will always find Pintos superior to Ferraris. Enjoy Windows.:jerkit:
Personally I'd say you're a pretty good candidate for becoming a "Switcher" as Apple likes to put it. The biggest hang up is whether or not the MMOs you like to play are available to natively run under Mac OS.
When going from a Windows based product to a Mac OS product there shouldn't be any reason to convert either pictures or songs. Just round everything up and copy it right on over, should be pretty hassle free. I used to have a SanDisk MP3 player before I got my iPod and music management was just drag and drop. Want music on there? Just open it under Explorer and copy it over. Don't want it, just delete it from the device. Not sure if that has changed though. If you're looking for a good image manipulation tool, don't want to fork out the $$$ for Photoshop and hopefully aren't into software piracy I'd suggest the GNU Image Manipulation Program. AKA GIMP.
On the customer service aspect I can attest to Apple Care being pretty darn good, but I'll also tell you that probably +70% of everything a Apple Care tech tells you can be found right on Apple's support page.
If I were in your shoes though I think I'd just build myself a new computer though. Do it from scratch. I already had a video card so I saved some $ there, but back in December I built up a pretty smokin machine for about $1600. And that was everything but a video card. Case, CPU, RAM, power supply, DVD burner, and new hard drive. I jumped on the new quadcore bandwagon too and haven't regretted it. Specs on the build are Core i7 940(2.93GHz), 6GB DDR3 RAM, and a 8800GTX video card(already had it though), with Vista Ultimate 64 bit. (Please don't hate me, I'm actually liking Vista. Haven't had a single problem with it.)
Hope that gives ya some food for thought.
Side note: What's with everyone comparing Apple to Dell(Who now owns Alienware)? Thats like comparing Kia to a Mercedes. Dell uses some pretty inferior hardware and unless you're a business account their customer support sucks. Apple uses significantly superior hardware and their support is better. Which is why they cost more.
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Someone's got a hard on for Windows.
No kidding. Most windows users dislike windows- especially vista, but some mac fans seem to be windophobes. (Closeted windows lovers
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Yes, I have. I guess you can go back to your sour grapes.
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No kidding. Most windows users dislike windows- especially vista, but some mac fans seem to be windophobes. (Closeted windows lovers
Rat, are you not making sense on purpose?
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He's got every right to knock whatever he wants. No matter if he's used it or not. Don't get so uptight about it.
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I'll throw in my advice. You can't beat the price point of a windows machine. You can't run Mac OS's on a windows machine.
I used windows for 8 years since I've had a computer. I now have used Mac OS X Leopard on a MacBook Pro for 8 months now. I like the OS X much better, I also like the MacBook Pro itself much better than any other laptop I've seen. They are just plain constructed better than other laptops.
Now that I have used Mac I would not go back to windows solely. For certain situations where windows is the only option I would use my dad's computer (my old windows machine).
Maybe Mac isn't the be all end all. Maybe the marketing is a bit or a lot hyped up, but there is a bottom line here.
Windows is cheaper, Mac is a more reliable system. I have never had an issue with a system crash, certain programs have crashed but it's a minor caveat and they are restored within a minute to where I was before they crashed. With windows I would have to restart and I just had a lot of issues with it over the years.
Mac can be tricky in the beginning, it was for me. But I grew to love it, and it is quite a bit more simple than windows once you get on it. I am completely happy spending the extra money for a laptop with OS X on it.
I won't say OS X or mac is better than Windows or dell or toshiba or anything, but I do prefer it for myself.
People giving advice whether to choose mac over windows are foolish. Unless you are looking to get rid of windows, you might as well stick with what you know. And there are plenty of freeware options if you are willing to learn some computer skills above and beyond the norm.
I used windows for 8 years since I've had a computer. I now have used Mac OS X Leopard on a MacBook Pro for 8 months now. I like the OS X much better, I also like the MacBook Pro itself much better than any other laptop I've seen. They are just plain constructed better than other laptops.
Now that I have used Mac I would not go back to windows solely. For certain situations where windows is the only option I would use my dad's computer (my old windows machine).
Maybe Mac isn't the be all end all. Maybe the marketing is a bit or a lot hyped up, but there is a bottom line here.
Windows is cheaper, Mac is a more reliable system. I have never had an issue with a system crash, certain programs have crashed but it's a minor caveat and they are restored within a minute to where I was before they crashed. With windows I would have to restart and I just had a lot of issues with it over the years.
Mac can be tricky in the beginning, it was for me. But I grew to love it, and it is quite a bit more simple than windows once you get on it. I am completely happy spending the extra money for a laptop with OS X on it.
I won't say OS X or mac is better than Windows or dell or toshiba or anything, but I do prefer it for myself.
People giving advice whether to choose mac over windows are foolish. Unless you are looking to get rid of windows, you might as well stick with what you know. And there are plenty of freeware options if you are willing to learn some computer skills above and beyond the norm.
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Rat, are you not making sense on purpose?
I was responding to your post:
Someone's got a hard on for Windows.
Obviously referring to the mac fanboys who for some reason are obsessed with windows.
I have to agree. I'm the admin of our office LAN. We have both Mac and PC. There is no comparison between the two. I NEVER have to worry about the Macs, the PC's on the other hand are headaches. While it is true that there are some virus's out there that affect the Mac platform, percentage wise you're looking at 1 for the Mac and 15 to 20(or more) for the PC.
Buy the Mac. Just my two cents.
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Ah. You seem to have missed the fact that I was responding you your post and your incessant ranting about windows. It's okay, we all have our slow days.
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Ah. You seem to have missed the fact that I was responding you your post and your incessant ranting about windows. It's okay, we all have our slow days.
If that is the conclusion you came to from reading this thread, "slow day" doesn't begin to explain your problem.
I have had the MacBook Pro I am typing on for 3 years now and have never had "the blue screen of death" that I seemed to get with some regularity with a Windows machine. In fact the reason I switched was the admittedly cheap Gateway laptop I had previously crashed three times in the less than three years I had the thing requiring me to do a total reinstall. The Mac keeps plugging along.
In the three years I've had the Mac Apple has upgraded the software quite a few times and has even had one major upgrade but the programs available today still run on my machine. I'm sure that someday Apple will have a total overhaul of their operating system once again and all my programs will become obsolete. But I don't see that happening with the regularity it seemed to with the OSes 3.1, 95, XP.
But like I said unlike back in the days of Windows I don't seem to be replacing my computer with the regularity I did when I had a Windows machine. It seems like in the 10 years from 1999 to the present I have gone through I think 4 Windows computers and now the 3 year old Mac. Some of those computers were cheap and some expensive but they didn't seem nearly as solid as the Mac. Yes Macs are more expensive, but they are durable. I don't foresee this computer having a massive failure anytime soon. (knock on wood)
I had the Apple Super Mouse or whatever the Bluetooth mouse with the crazy wheel is called and got rid of it because the wheel kept getting gummed up and even the replacement didn't work right. But I was able to go to Best Buy and get a two button Logitech mouse with a scroll wheel and plug it right into the computer and it works perfectly. Apple mouses are also two button, you just can't see the buttons because the top is all one piece. Regular keyboards from Best Buy work with Macs as well. Some even come with the Windows keys and the Apple keys on them but there really isn't that much difference in the key boards.
I don't think that I've played any of the games you are talking about on my Mac but I have played some of the online quest type games and the Apple version of Halo and haven't had any troubles with either.
My MacBook Pro wasn't the most expensive laptop Apple sold at the time but it was close and I haven't tried to play games on my wife's 13" MacBook but I have edited pictures and the thing also works great.
I wouldn't call myself a fanboy, but I do like my Mac and even though I keep my old Gateway for running the couple of Windows programs I have I don't think that I would ever go back. It is very nice not to be constantly upgrading my virus software or worrying about strange emails or whether or not there are ways for people to exploit flaws in the programs I'm running and access my computer. I just made my network invisible and that was that.
Oh, that's another thing. Before I bought the Apple Airport, I had tried numerous wireless routers and could never get them to work. When I got the Airport I just plugged it in, named my network, set a password, made it hidden and that was it.
Chad
In the three years I've had the Mac Apple has upgraded the software quite a few times and has even had one major upgrade but the programs available today still run on my machine. I'm sure that someday Apple will have a total overhaul of their operating system once again and all my programs will become obsolete. But I don't see that happening with the regularity it seemed to with the OSes 3.1, 95, XP.
But like I said unlike back in the days of Windows I don't seem to be replacing my computer with the regularity I did when I had a Windows machine. It seems like in the 10 years from 1999 to the present I have gone through I think 4 Windows computers and now the 3 year old Mac. Some of those computers were cheap and some expensive but they didn't seem nearly as solid as the Mac. Yes Macs are more expensive, but they are durable. I don't foresee this computer having a massive failure anytime soon. (knock on wood)
I had the Apple Super Mouse or whatever the Bluetooth mouse with the crazy wheel is called and got rid of it because the wheel kept getting gummed up and even the replacement didn't work right. But I was able to go to Best Buy and get a two button Logitech mouse with a scroll wheel and plug it right into the computer and it works perfectly. Apple mouses are also two button, you just can't see the buttons because the top is all one piece. Regular keyboards from Best Buy work with Macs as well. Some even come with the Windows keys and the Apple keys on them but there really isn't that much difference in the key boards.
I don't think that I've played any of the games you are talking about on my Mac but I have played some of the online quest type games and the Apple version of Halo and haven't had any troubles with either.
My MacBook Pro wasn't the most expensive laptop Apple sold at the time but it was close and I haven't tried to play games on my wife's 13" MacBook but I have edited pictures and the thing also works great.
I wouldn't call myself a fanboy, but I do like my Mac and even though I keep my old Gateway for running the couple of Windows programs I have I don't think that I would ever go back. It is very nice not to be constantly upgrading my virus software or worrying about strange emails or whether or not there are ways for people to exploit flaws in the programs I'm running and access my computer. I just made my network invisible and that was that.
Oh, that's another thing. Before I bought the Apple Airport, I had tried numerous wireless routers and could never get them to work. When I got the Airport I just plugged it in, named my network, set a password, made it hidden and that was it.
Chad
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You're right; the statements you've made in this thread are less true because they're uninformed personal opinions.
You've been pointing fingers and hollering "Fanboy!" when your entire argument against Apple computers is a straw man.
You stated "Apple PCs start at $2500.00," which is the price of a Mac Pro. Macs start around $1000.00. Even less for the Mac Mini. From the manufacturer directly.A simple glance at their website would have told you that.
Macs can be had for far less than their MSRP. You're familiar with MSRP usually being higher than other retail, correct?
Usually you seem to be a pretty informed guy, this time you're spouting off and making wild accusations against a company because you've decided you don't like them.
Apple's ad campaign is a response to decades of ignorance about the platform by the PC using public on the whole. Are they a little pointed? Sure. Apple is trying to sell products, and they have to compete with people who've never actually owned or used their machines babbling on about how much they suck and how terrible and overpriced they are.
I don't expect you to change your mind in the slightest, and I'm sure I'm next in line to be called a "fanboy" and accused of ad hominem attacks, but it's kind of hard to respond to someone who's coming off as one of the anti-Sebenza knife people who's never actually handled a Sebenza.
And speaking of Sebenzas, you can compare cheap PCs to Macs with similar tech specs all day long, just like you can compare a CRKT and a Sebenza with similar specs. That doesn't mean you'll be getting the same quality of product, and that doesn't mean it's even in the same league as a product.
I dunno, man. You're really blowing my mind here. For a consumer of $2000.00 machetes, you really are missing the point when it comes to the finer differences of Macs and PCs.
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My first day on the internet was here at BladeForums. 
Got a Mac, to coin a phrase Joe used, not one hiccup or burp ever.
Still on the same Mac, due for a new one.
Used my niece's Dell for two days a while back, picked up 2 viruses and a nasty trojan in that time.
Can you guess what I'll be buying ?
Doug
Got a Mac, to coin a phrase Joe used, not one hiccup or burp ever.
Still on the same Mac, due for a new one.
Used my niece's Dell for two days a while back, picked up 2 viruses and a nasty trojan in that time.
Can you guess what I'll be buying ?
Doug
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Well getting the info is what the thread was for, I prefer the Logitch gaming mouse and keyboard. So does the software work, i.e. the keymapping and programmable keys?
Thanks, and thanks!
With windows on a mac or with mac os? and it is helpful.
In fact thanks for everyone still offering info, despite the Apple pie fight.
I have an iPod. I don't use iTunes but have copied my music from CDs so I don't know much about DRM but I didn't really think that was a problem even with song downloaded from iTunes. I thought you could use them on all your iPods. That was one of the reasons I converted to Mac. I bought a Sony CD and it had copy protection and wouldn't allow me to copy it to my computer. However, the protection was Windows only so when I got my Mac there was no trouble adding the CD to my iPod collection.
I'm not sure why you are against iPod. Everything I've read says that their compression format is head and shoulders above MP3. The units themselves are easy to use as well.
However, there are plenty of free programs for the Mac that you can use to play and edit and convert MP3s on your Mac.
Chad
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