When I started this thread I just wanted to read opinions, I already had mine established beforehand, if I'm to buy another leatherman it would be the wave, I've bought at least 2, including 1 charge, and a sidekick (all at separate times) and all had issues that couldn't be adjusted away, those were primarily front and back blade play on the knife, on one of them the scissors was so tight it wouldn't disengage the lock, also it was plastered in some kind of gel, still even though I'm incapable of getting a good one I won't bad mouth the company. I will try for a wave again, i just don't know when.