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Alright while putting together a list of stuff to place in my camping pack I thought it would be interesting to see if they had folding/collapsible bows. First of all it seems like a convenient idea, great for shooting small game in a survival situation. Does anybody have any thought or now were to buy one. Only site I found is this http://www.archeryhistory.com/recurves/recurvespics/browing70.jpg but can't find anywhere to purchase.
 
Shooting a bow accurately enough to take small game reliably is tough with good non-collapsible equipment. I guess it could be done though!
 
Thanks just what I was looking for and in the right price range. Lets see what happens when x-mas rolls around.
 
The arrows can be harder to pack than the bow. I've played with the idea of threadded arrow sections but haven't tried it yet. (This would probably be dangerous with a compound!)

Another option would be shooting an arrow from a sling shot.

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-- FLIX
 
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The bow that was linked to looks pretty cool.

As for packing the arrows, couldn't you throw the heads into a plastic containers and the shafts in a tube strapped to your pack? They may take up a decent amount of room, but doesn't seem all that bad.
 
I agree with Flix. You can come up with cunning ideas to pack (or hide) a bow, but you still need arrows and it isn't simple to have take-down arrows.

I've wrestled with this one quite a bit.

You could use a crossbow with short bolts.

I can draw a 27 or 28 inch arrow, but I changed my shooting style to use a 23 inch draw. It is generally easier to find shorter natural shoots in this size for arrow making, plus there are other advantages. (But a longer draw should give your arrow more power, so it is a trade-off). But even a two-foot long arrow isn't easy to keep out of sight or stow in a pack.

Nowadays I don't use my bow and arrows much at all. I have found simple snares to be much more productive, although you need to be spending a fairly long time in an area (overnight for instance) to give the snares time to catch something.

Maybe some cord for snares and a decent rubber slingshot might be more practical for meat procurement. If a gun is out of the question and a weapon is desired, then maybe a hiking staff with a detachable Cold Steel Bushman spear blade would suffice.

But if you solve the stowable bow and arrow problem, I am keen to learn about it.

Best wishes... Coote.
 
Dave Canterbury of www.wildernessoutfittersarchery.com makes take-down arrows. I handled some at Dirttime and watched them shot out of his Whisker Biskit-equipped slingshot. I don't know how long they would hold up but, in a survival situation, probably long enough for one to get something to eat (if your skills were up to it).

DancesWithKnives
 
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DWK2 said:
Dave Canterbury of www.wildernessoutfittersarchery.com makes take-down arrows. I handled some at Dirttime and watched them shot out of his Whisker Biskit-equipped slingshot. I don't know how long they would hold up but, in a survival situation, probably long enough for one to get something to eat (if your skills were up to it).

DancesWithKnives
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Cool beans. That WB Wristwrocket and those arrows would probably make a nice bunny setup. Those take down arrows will certainly be more accurate than any crafted in the field. Here is Dave's page that shows both the slingshot and the arrows.

-- FLIX
 
Dave says that this setup will kill does without a problem. It's often not difficult to get within about 10 yards of them.

DancesWithKnives
 
Not just a take down bow ... the takedown arrow :D

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And I had to build a kit ...

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All rolled up ...

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Since then I made the wrap out of leather ... the towel was the template.
 
Very nice. What did you use to couple the two shaft pieces?

I was thinking an arrow insert for the female side but I'm not aware of a male equivilent. Any ideas?

DWK, while I'm sure you could impart a lethal shot with a slingshot, I'm concerned that there isn't sufficient energy for a quick. reliable kill. Granted, the ethics are different in a survival situation but you don't want an unbearable tracking job either. I wonder if Dave has chrono'd the "slingbow"?

-- FLIX
 
The chrono question is a good one. Might be worth e-mailing his son with that inquiry (I heard Dave is tied up with a TV show about now).

I know that I have heavy bands that will pull over 40 lbs on a slingshot (made with tubing I use for my spearguns). With the excellent penetration afforded by a really sharp broadhead, that ought to double lung a doe if hit broadside at 10 yds or less. I'm not saying I would do it in other than a survival situation but it sounds like it would get the job done.

DancesWithKnives
 
Flix - I used an arrow head insert for the male, put it in an electric drill and filed it till it fit in the shaft then glued it in with the arrow screwed together and splinted with other shafts till dry. They said it wouldn't shoot straight ... but it does and with a 60# bow. I'm not going to win any comps but it hits the score zone. Just make sure you screw it together properly before it drys. I use a bit of thread tape to keep the joins tight including the screw in head.
 
Thanks! Sounds like a good approach.

I don't yet have a take-down bow. My favorite traditional is a 72" yew longbow I had a custom bowyer make years ago. So as you can deduce, I'm not yet focused on shortening my arrows. Got to work on a more compact bow first.:o But when I get that taken care of, I'll try your technique.

Much appreciated!:thumbup:

DancesWithKnives
 
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Flix - I used an arrow head insert for the male, put it in an electric drill and filed it till it fit in the shaft then glued it in with the arrow screwed together and splinted with other shafts till dry. They said it wouldn't shoot straight ... but it does and with a 60# bow. I'm not going to win any comps but it hits the score zone. Just make sure you screw it together properly before it drys. I use a bit of thread tape to keep the joins tight including the screw in head.
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Thanks, dartanyon. If you get the chance, I'd love to see close-up of the male insert.

-- FLIX
 
The slingshot idea seems great something you could strap to the outside of your pack, but just extremely expensive. I think I'll hold off for awhile and do some more research but it looks like I would be leaning towards the Slingshot in the end. Thanks
 
The minimalist slingshot setup from Wilderness Outfitters Archery isn't too expensive. Nowhere near as cool as that exotic slingshot bow, but if we're talking backup survival tool rather than primary hunting weapon it would do.

DancesWithKnives
 
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