Oklahoma Outlaw
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I think so too. I haven't read every post, so this has probably already been covered. The point of diminishing returns is different for each user. My 50 year old Buck 110 & Uncle Henry stockman still put a smile on my face, and I could probably get along quite nicely if they were all I had, so all the knives I've bought since then would fall into the diminishing returns category. It's nice to have choices though.I believe the the majority of experienced knife users on this forum recognize that there is a diminishing return of qualty for the money paid as knife prices increase. However, what is important is ones perception of his knife. Sometimes that is increased by a higher price.
My biggest nightmare is to be stabbed with a knife with an inferior steel like D2 and other ingot steels!
My biggest nightmare is to be stabbed with a knife with an inferior steel like D2 and other ingot steels!
There’s a joke here that I really want to make, but I just can’t bring myself to do it… I just can’t.You wouldn’t be happy if they hung you with a new rope.
I'm not upset in the least. Quite the contrary. I'm rather amused. There are objective truths in this world -- even when it comes to knives. Sadly that's something which is lost on many...
So you can get 5 Bokers for 1 Viper, so is it worth it???
This is always the argument of the broke or miserly person, and frankly we’ve seen it all before.To me it boils down to pocket jewelry. It people want to spend their money on that, good for them. I just take issue with those who try to defend defend the purchase of XYZ knife based on its "quality."
75 years ago, spending more on a Rolex because they were rugged, water resistant (if not waterproof), highly accurate timekeepers was very defendable. There really wasn't much around that would do the same job for the same length of time for significantly less $$$. The greater expense was justified by the watch's performance.
One would be a fool to attempt that "argument" today as there are cheap watches which are bulletproof and keep excellent time. People buy Rolex watches (and Pateks, Piagets, Vacherons, etc.) because they're status symbols, because of how they look, and in some cases because they're shrewd investments. Same with knives.
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For me the Busse is a better knife. The handle shape is much more ergonomic than the straight flat slab, I can appreciate the lanyard options, the point is better aligned with the center line, the pommel is more practical as an impact tool and the blade itself is more robust. But, it costs more and it does not come with a sheath.A picture speaks more than thousand words ... consider this for example:
The Busse (2nd from left) is around $300-400, give or take. The 3V Buck (rightmost) was $120, I think.
Their value for me is basically the same.
What’s your problem, guy? What’s with all the personal insults?This is always the argument of the broke or miserly person, and frankly we’ve seen it all before.
For me the Busse is a better knife. The handle shape is much more ergonomic than the straight flat slab, I can appreciate the lanyard options, the point is better aligned with the center line, the pommel is more practical as an impact tool and the blade itself is more robust. But, it costs more and it does not come with a sheath.
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I would argue that the technology and engineering involved is precisely why expensive knives are worth it. There is a ton of engineering and tech that goes into stuff like Busse and CPK for example.A tangent to this, is higher end hunting rifles. I've thought about buying one, just to have one in my life. As with knives money is relevant. To some high end is in the thousands.
I suspect for my hunting, in heavy woods, at 40 yards, I wouldn't notice. Maybe in weight and smoothness. I'd like to try higher end optics to extend the DNRs suggested hunting hours.
I think there is a huge dimminishing return though. I am not poor. But a gun and optics have technology and engineering, where I just can't see the value in higher end knives, other than snob appeal. or to feel like you achieved the ability to buy one.
I may buy more UP knives, just out a sense of nationalism.
What true north wrote is the other part of the value equation. There is no question that the Busse in your example, has the better Heat Treat and can safely be called a lifetime knife. The question is whether that extra performance/value is necessary for what you do. Does a small knife need to be as tough as a Busse or CPK. In many cases that extra cost is not necessary. Up to you.But the Buck is much lighter and cuts better Half kidding, as I said it's personal, and I do appreciate what you wrote. And there is a reason I own both .... BTW, the Buck sheath is not great, I got a 3rd party Kydex immediately.
I would argue that the technology and engineering involved is precisely why expensive knives are worth it. There is a ton of engineering and tech that goes into stuff like Busse and CPK for example.
Please stop crying. This comment is in response to Stahlmann's incredibly poor logic, wherein he attempts to speak for others, as he usually does. Also, why are you addressing me, I thought I was on your ignore list?What’s your problem, guy? What’s with all the personal insults?
Classy, as always.Please stop crying. This comment is in response to Stahlmann's incredibly poor logic, wherein he attempts to speak for others, as he usually does. Also, why are you addressing me, I thought I was on your ignore list?
In any case, please let me know if there's anything else I can clear up for you.