are high end watches really worth it?

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Im so torn, ive had 2 rolex years ago and they were nice; but i was thinking about getting an all steel omega. Its like 1500. I dont know is it really worth it, side by side next to a high end seiko they look alot alike. Money isnt all that tight but , is it really worth it? Im so torn. 10 years ago when i was 25 i would have said yeah, but now im not so sure. any comments are welcome. Thanks guys.
 
I don't think I'm going to be any help. But I will throw my $0.02 in. This is a personal decision. If having nice things is your thing than go for the expensive one. If saving coin is your thing then you know which way to go. If you have some other area in your life you wish to get the better thing or spend money do it there. Otherwise from the sound of your post you might regret spending the extra coin and not having it for something else.

Worth is a matter of perspective. It's really up to you. I can always justify an expensive working piece of equiptment versus a broken/difficult to work "bargain" piece..but with watches a timex will perform just as well as any watch our there for time keeping soit really boils down to personal preference.


Does anyone need a watch that costs more than a Casio G shock? Probably not.



Paul
 
My 20-year-old Seiko keeps noticably better time that my fancy "certified chronometer" Rolex which was a gift.

The Seiko needs a new battery every three years or so. That's like $15 including service. The last time, they replaced the gaskets and the lightbulb too and it still less than $50 total.

The Rolex is supposed to be cleaned every year which costs the better part of a hundred bucks. Since I hardly ever wear the thing, I don't get that done every year. It stopped working last year and set me back about three hundred bucks.

The key difference is this: The Seiko is a watch; it tells time. The Rolex is a fancy piece of jewlery; it tells status. So, the question be comes, why are you buying this watch? What do you want it to tell?


(In fairness to Rolex, I'm told that mine would keep better time if I kept it running constantly. But, it's a bit flashy for day-to-day wear... unless you're a pimp.)
 
Owning the nicest "stuff" that you can and have worked for and earned is a nice position to be in. I enjoy having a couple nice watches. I lived without them before I got them and would be just fine without them. If you want one and can afford it and appreciate having one...I would say get it. If it takes food out of your mouth or families mouth...definitely pass...same with knives or cars or any luxory.
 
Nope. Neither are high-end knives or high-end cars. Before I got into knives, I was a watch collector. My collection was worth in the middle six figures - which made me a VERY minor collector, in the grand scheme of things. A dentist friend of mine had a collection valued at $2-million - and that made him a 'medium' player at his level. :eek:

IMHO, "Need", "want", and "worth" are very seldom related when it comes to adult toys. The fact that you had to ask the question means you already feel some guilt and you haven't even bought the darn watch! ;) You just want someone to validate a choice you've probably already made subconsciously.

So go ahead and ask my wife that question and the answer will be, "No. A Seiko will do everything you need. Use the money to buy a new TV for the family room".

And then ask ME the question and MY answer will be, "Go get that Omega! Wonderful watch and still the best value for the money."

We're men with toys. Making irrational decisions is what we do.
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if ya take care of the thing they arent bad investments really, rolex goes up every yr, i dont think omega holds its value quite as well, but they are ok too. i would bet $$ i could sell my GMT11 for about a grand more than i paid 5 yrs ago. even if ya wear them hard and scuff/scratch them they can polish them out, new crystal if necc, and they will look (and be priced almost like) new if ya wanna get rid of it

i dont think its neccesary to have a rolex serviced yrly, it costs $250 in this neck of the woods, my dad had a 18K datejust since the mid '70s with nary a service, runs fine. oh i know, it should be done occasionally, but i dont think even rolex says every yr, IIRC.

as far as keeping time, as long as ya wear them and keep them wound up they work fine, really my TAG pro keeps as good a time as anything i have.

as far as buying 1, imho either ya got the $$ or ya dont, a watch is a luxury item (a rolex anyway, or omega, or pan, or,,,,,) i wouldnt buy if i needed a new washing machine, or H2O heater or whatever, like i say ya either can afford it or ya cant.
 
Yes they are worth it. Its not a status symbol (Rolex) its like buying a beautifully engineered car or anything else for that matter. Another cool thing about Rolex is that they give a lot of money to charity and are big sponsors or watch making schools.

To me there is Rolex, everything else is a wannabe.

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Posted by James M. Dowling on February 10, 1998 at 22:24:33:

It's a free world, you can love or hate any one or any thing that you choose. However the point that I would like to make is that a little research might convince even the most ardent critic of Rolex (or of the folks who wear them) that in this case a little tolerance might be no bad thing. Let us first look at the facts and then turn our view upon the perception.

To all intents and purposes, Rolex invented the wristwatch, as we know it. Sure there were companies making and marketing the things before Rolex burst upon the scene in 1905. But none of them put the effort that Rolex did into this new market. The reason for this is that the older companies could see no reason to change; they had major investments in plant and machinery designed specifically to make pocket watches. So why should they change. Rolex had nothing, no history, no factory and most importantly no tradition. So the only option open to them was that of being an innovator; and the innovation they chose was the wristwatch
Rolex without doubt invented the waterproof wristwatch; again as with all their other advances, they were not the originators of the concept. But they were the people who made it work, the screw down crown was a classically simple concept and Wilsdorf had the genius to see the simplicity and make it work for the company.
Once again with self-winding mechanisms, Rolex saw the way the market was going, saw the mistakes all their predecessors had made and neatly sidestepped them all. Whilst many other competing self winding systems have arisen in the 65 years since Rolex introduced the Auto Rotor system, the vast majority of all automatic watches now use a version of the Rolex concept.
However despite all of the above reasons, my opinion is that the greatest advance Rolex have ever made is their decision to gain chronometer certification for a few and then for almost all their watches. In the days before Rolex instituted this program, every watch manufacturer TALKED about the accuracy of their watches; but Rolex were the first people ever to have the accuracy proved by an independent agency. Before the advent of quartz watches; accuracy was in direct relationship to the cost of the watch; therefore people wanted to know that their watch was really accurate. Rolex gave them that assurance.
Nowadays we are all used to the concept of Tool watches, that is watches designed for a particular job or hobby; you know the sort of thing...diving watches, sailing watches, pilot's watches etc. Well Rolex invented that concept too. The Submariner, the GMT Master and the Milgauss were all pioneers in this field.
Being waterproof and shockproof long before the rest of the watch industry was, Rolex became the natural choice of sports people who needed a watch. From this starting point they then moved to make watches FOR sportsmen; this moved the Tool watch concept on a little further. Watches such as the Explorer 1 and 2 were targeted at climbers and cave explorers, they were simple timepieces but with high visibility dials and very strong cases. Once again they created a market and defined it.
They are, by far, the most innovative of all the Swiss watch companies; as well as all the new ideas mentioned above; Rolex have always pursued a long term development strategy. They have patented more than a thousand advances in horology during their 90+ year history.
Rolex is now the most self-sufficient watch company in Europe; they make all their own movements (apart from chronograph movements), all their cases, all their bracelets and all their crystals. They own most of their distributors and have no shareholders (as all the shares are held by 2 family trusts which have charitable status) because of this they can pursue long term goals without fear.
They are, without doubt, the largest Swiss watchmaker. Producing around 800,000 watches a year, they still sell every watch they make. They are dependent on no single market, one could really say that the world is their OYSTER!!!!!!!! (sorry)
Perhaps the one problem they do have is that they have become a victim of their own success. Whilst the company has not changed its design philosophy; their public perception have changed. Whereas Rolex made its name with sports watches and still makes more of them than any other kind of watch; many people think of diamond encrusted Day-Dates when they hear the name Rolex. However this is not the fault of the company.
Rolex have the longest single continuous ownership of any Swiss watch company; having been owned by the same two families (and its successor trusts) for its entire existence. During this time the company has essentially had only 2 chief executives (the third came to power in 1997). Both of these factors have enabled the company to steer in an uninterrupted course throughout its history.
Many people whine about the cost of a new Rolex; they forget 2 things. Firstly Rolex manage to sell every watch they make (so obviously SOME people do not think they are too expensive). Secondly, no-one was ever forced to buy a Rolex watch; it is a decision people make with their own free will and their own money. In the end, the free market rules everything.
It is difficult to talk about Rolex watches without talking about resale value; in simple terms Rolex (new or used) retain a higher percentage of their cost than any other production Swiss watch. Everything from the no date Submariner all the way to the President can be resold in an instant anywhere in the world, for very good money. Also, if the watch was bought used, it is quite possible to wear a Rolex for 2 or 3 years and sell it for the same price you paid for it. Apart from the cost of the money invested, essentially that makes it a free watch.
One of the reasons to buy a Rolex may well be one of the best, but undoubtedly one that no-one ever thinks of: it is that most of the profits made through the sale of the watches go to good causes. As mentioned above, the company is owned by two family trusts. The larger one (the Wilsdorf family trusts) gives a fixed sum to the remaining members of his family but the majority is given to charitable causes; including a high school in his home town and the watchmakers school in Geneva. This gives rise to the thought that if it were not for the substantial profits made by Rolex, there would probably be no Franck Muller; because it was at the Geneva watchmaker's school that Muller learned his trade.
As I said in the introduction, if you want to hate Rolex; then be my guest but at least I hope when you do you will at least give the devil his due.
 
It's worth it if you want it and you have the cash for it. Just like everything else it must be something that you enjoy having for it to be worth it. If you're just buying for the sake of buying it then no, it isn't worth it. If you're asking us this question then most probably no, it isn't worth it.

Watches, even high end watches are rarely good investments. It's a luxury good you're supposed to enjoy wearing. Most probably it won't make you any money when it comes time to sell it. There are exceptions but in the majority of cases you'll lose a bit of money.

There's just something about having a nice high end automatic watch. Being able to see that second hand sweep knowing it's doing this without a battery. Knowing that when it konks out you don't need to throw it away and that a watchmaker can most probably repair it. To me a nice watch is about being able to keep a piece that will outlast most probably anything else. The only thing that i know of that is still working that belonged to my late grandfather is an omega watch that my dad restored. He still wears it sometimes.

I like the idea of having something i know that my kid or my grand child can keep in full working order. Just the thought of that makes me think it's worthwhile.
 
I personally think high end watches ARE worth it!! I love my TAG Heuer. But, it is also MY dream watch, so it is EXTREMELY worth it!!
 
If you don't buy that watch what will you spend the money on? Will it be something you look at fifty times a day and get a chance to appreciate?
 
My 'high end ' watch is a Vic that cost $150. I love it. My work watch is a Timex with 2 time zones and 3 alarms. I echo the same thoughts on economics and purpose. Just like buying a Sebenza, a less costly one will work, but these things sure are nice.
And yes, I do use both time zones and all 3 alarms.
 
I reckon once you go above a $(AUS)200 Seiko auto, the law of dimishing returns get's very savage.

I saw a great review by a guy who looked closely at an Omega SMP and Seiko divers and the verdict came out heavily in favour of the Seiko, at 1/20th of the price.

Seiko s one of the last watch companies to still do everything in house.

My Seiko Auto divers loses less than 5 sec per month (after being regulated) I've got digitals less accurate than that.

I'e also got a $2400 Omega SMP, so go figure........
 
It really depends on what you want. Is the custom knife that I carry worth it? Is it better value than the SAK that I also carry? Worth is subjective, as is the value of money. Do what is right for you....
 
I think that any watch costing more than $500.00 US dollars is just plain silly.

Allen.
 
allenC said:
I think that any watch costing more than $500.00 US dollars is just plain silly.

Allen.

i think any over $5000 is lol.............

and temper, agree with ya 110%, great post imho.
 
I think that any watch costing more than $500.00 US dollars is just plain silly

I'll one up ya Allen. I'll say the same for any watch over $100.00 but , that's me.
It all depends on the person I suppose. Given the choice between my GMC truck (which I adore) or a shiny new BMW , I'd take my truck anyday ! Or maybe take the BMW , sell the junk and buy two trucks with cash leftover for Chinese food.
Then again I am more than happy to buy my low end Wranglers at Target :cool:
 
Hi All-

Automatic mechanical watches of extremely high quality are absolutely worth the investment. The money spent on an Audemars Piguet, Jaeger LeCoultre, Breguet, IWC, Glashutte Original, Vacheron Constantin, or similar timepiece today will be a wise one for tomorrow.

Those watches will easily survive to be passed down for generations of family with reasonable care. I have a manual-wind Longines that belonged to my great-grandfather that looks great and runs perfectly fine. A quartz watch will eventually fry its circuitry and will be ready to be tossed in the garbage can within twenty or so years.

Mechanical watches have a "heartbeat & soul" that some people need to own to eventually understand. That feeling is only reinforced when you look down at a familiar and trusted dial that has been on your wrist for decades and in your family for many years before that. Make the purchase, you'll be happy you did it.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
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