Are "Rambo" type knives practical?

Consider that much of the most passionate argument comes from a point of vested interest. That's fine too, but I'll post this again --- to each his own.
 
Sam,

Since you are one of the few people on this forum who have actually made a quality HH knife, I want to publically thank you for sharing your knowledge, innovation, hands-on experience, passion, enthusiasm, gentlemanly posts, and the awesome videos that show how strong and practical these knives can be for people who are interested in this design. You're a great addition to the BladeForums community. :thumbup:

Tom
 
I have always been a biiiiig fan of the hollow handled deep serrated knives. And I tell you the truth, you Cannot judge the hollow handled knives by the Chinese Cheapies that are mass produced and made with tin can grade metal and steel. There is a very big difference in both quality and feel between those hollow handles and a real honest to goodness handmade hollow handled knife. I have some of the best hollow handled knives I have ever owned, made by Andrew Clifford Knives. I also have a handmade First Blood knife that was made by Bill Schiller, a Canadian master knife maker with over 40 years of making and teaching knives and knife making. He is also Ray Matton's personal friend and the guy who mentored Ray at making knives. And I tell you what, you just cannot beat that knife.

I also have an Original Aitor Jungle King 1. I am also the guy that is getting two hollow handled knives made by Sam Wilson. His pullup video and testing just reassured what I already knew about hollow handled knives...but they also just really blew me away and I just HAD to order two of them. I am also getting a knife made right now, the Martin Knives MCE II knife. Plus I have a Ray Matton knife on order and soon will also be inquiring about another Andrew Clifford Hollow handled knife to get made.

And I agree with others here' usually it is the naysayers that cannot afford a real genuine handmade hollow handled knife, or they just spend their money on other things and then come here to knock it because they have nothing better to do.

I also agree with what someone said in regards to it is all about what the individual likes. We are all Not the same. All of us are created different. If we weren't, this world would be even more screwed up than it already is. I try not to knock things that someone else might like because there's just simply no reason to. After all, I don't walk in anyone's shoes but my own. But it is like someone else on here said, you are always going to have the naysayers, no matter what it is about.

I could come here and start a thread and say that full tang knives are the best thing that ever happened to steel. And sure as crap, it would Not be long before someone came on that post and tried knocking full tang knives, LOL! I have seen it a million times, Well, I am exaggerating a bit there, with the million times remark. But people understand what I am driving at, right?

Even if the hollow handled knives were totally useless all the way around, handmade or not, I'd still like them and would buy them because they are what I like and no naysayers in a forum is going to change that no matter what they say to try to get me to join their hollow handled knife haters click. I hate clicks. I have my own mind and can do my own thinking. No need for a fruit loop to do it for me, LOL!

The people that don't like hollow handled knives..they have their reasons and I'm certainly not going to try to do to them what they are doing here, which is get everyone to hate hollow handled knives for their reasons, They don't like them and I can respect that. But saying that hollow handled knives are all cheaply made and will not suffice when real knife is needed, us just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Sam Wilson proved that with his videos, as well as Andrew Clifford and Martin Knives and all the other high end knife makers that make these awesome knives. Thanks for reading,
 
Hi thedemonbeast
Can u PM how much is Ray Matton in D2 and how long is the waiting period ?
 
TAH said:
Sam,

Since you are one of the few people on this forum who have actually made a quality HH knife, I want to publically thank you for sharing your knowledge, innovation, hands-on experience, passion, enthusiasm, gentlemanly posts, and the awesome videos that show how strong and practical these knives can be for people who are interested in this design. You're a great addition to the BladeForums community. :thumbup:

Tom
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Thank you, Tom. Obviously I am now making and selling these knives, so I am professionally motivated. But it was my love for HH knives that got me here, and got me started making and designing them. I have had a great deal of fun, so far, and I hope to be able to continue doing so. As far as all that you thanked me for, I believe you are being quite generous, but you are certainly welcome, as is anyone else who may benefit from anything I have done. Many of my questions about making knives were answered right here on this forum, so I am grateful as well.

And thedemonbeast, good to see you here. I was a little unclear from your post, though. Are you trying to say you like HH knives? Lol, thanks for the kind words. Great thread, and great pics in here. :thumbup:
 
thedemonbeast said:
But saying that hollow handled knives are all cheaply made and will not suffice when real knife is needed, us just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
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Nobody said such thing.

And as a few mentioned before.. Different People, Different Needs. I need my knives almost daily.. If I need a "real knife" outdoors there's no way a Rambo type knife would fit the bill. It's the whole design, the sawback, the blade geometry, the angle.. et cetera. It's not the hollow handle, not the craftmanship.. There's a big difference.
 
thedemonbeast said:
I could come here and start a thread and say that full tang knives are the best thing that ever happened to steel.
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More analogous to the OP of this thread would be you starting a thread asking, "Are full tang knives are the best thing that ever happened to steel"?
 
thedemonbeast said:
Even if the hollow handled knives were totally useless all the way around, handmade or not, I'd still like them and would buy them because they are what I like and no naysayers in a forum is going to change that no matter what they say to try to get me to join their hollow handled knife haters click. I hate clicks. I have my own mind and can do my own thinking. No need for a fruit loop to do it for me, LOL!
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Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, except apparently, people who who happen to have a different opinion than you, and do not find Rambo knives practical. Apparently they are mindless "fruits."
 
I love tanto style knives (another sometimes misunderstood type of knife, I guess I'm just cursed) so this one really caught my eye. I really like Gil Hibben's style with big knives, and I love the way he does his Bowies, but this is one of the few I have seen he has made in this style.

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Here is my Buck. Its a well made knife. Ive no reason to feel undergunned with this knife.

Note 'reverse' handguard. That and finish lead me to believe, that it might have been 'yanked' from production before reaching the end of the line. Who knows.



As for large(-ish) knives being impractical and long bladed knives not being used...., I beg to differ.
This Lon Humphrey pig sticker has proven itself as a highly efficient tool in the field.
Its elegant lines and balance lends itself to being wielded in fluid motions that belies its size.
I wouldnt change an iota about it.

 
Hevy Devy said:
If I need a "real knife" outdoors there's no way a Rambo type knife would fit the bill. It's the whole design, the sawback, the blade geometry, the angle.. et cetera. It's not the hollow handle, not the craftmanship.. There's a big difference.
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This is a fair statement and I agree, Hevy. There is a big difference between an exact "Rambo" knife and other hollow handle designs. :thumbup:
 
Hevy Devy said:
If I need a "real knife" outdoors there's no way a Rambo type knife would fit the bill. It's the whole design, the sawback, the blade geometry, the angle.. et cetera. It's not the hollow handle, not the craftmanship.. There's a big difference.
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It would still work.
You just don't like them, which is fine.
But they will still cut stuff, which is what knives do.
 
stabman said:
It would still work.
You just don't like them, which is fine.
But they will still cut stuff, which is what knives do.
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FTW! Give this man a ceegar! I couldn't say it any better myself. Thank you, Stabman. :thumbup:
 
stabman said:
But they will still cut stuff, which is what knives do.
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Not nearly as efficient and tirelessly as my "real" (outdoor/survival) knives. ;)

And that's the point.. That is a possible criteria what defines a knife as practical or not.

If I just want to cut something I could do this with about any dull kitchen knife. Having a Rambo-type knife is better than having no knife at all.. but if I need an efficient and practical or even specialised knife.. then there's no reason to buy or use a Rambo type knife. The typical "Rambo" pattern just isn't a very practical knife design, imho.

And please, here's no hate circus against HH or Rambo-type knives at all.. So I don't think this Rambo knife missionizing is appropriate.
 
Sam Wilson said:
I love tanto style knives (another sometimes misunderstood type of knife, I guess I'm just cursed) so this one really caught my eye. I really like Gil Hibben's style with big knives, and I love the way he does his Bowies, but this is one of the few I have seen he has made in this style.

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I think there are only two of those out there and one is with Sly

Hevy Devy said:
Not nearly as efficient and tirelessly as my "real" (outdoor/survival) knives. ;)

And that's the point.. That is a possible criteria what defines a knife as practical or not.

If I just want to cut something I could do this with about any dull kitchen knife. Having a Rambo-type knife is better than having no knife at all.. but if I need an efficient and practical or even specialised knife.. then there's no reason to buy or use a Rambo type knife. The typical "Rambo" pattern just isn't a very practical knife design, imho.
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Hi
Can u please post picture of your practical knife u have in mind (or the one u own) ?

And also all you guys who say Rambo knives are impractical can u please post picture of those practical knives by your standards ? It's just me u know I would like to see some practical knives ! (So I know what to buy ) thanks.
Jan
 
Iam old but as I remember the 1st knife was made I think by Randell for a Medic in Nam The saw back was for cutting the skin of a plane and the hollow handle held little medical kit pain pills maybe a rubber hose. To use to slow bleeding . It was not a survival knife. If you read the original Rambo book He didn't have a knife . He ended up with a 30/30 and ammo from some moonshiner's It was laid in South Eastern Ky . Ending of course different than movie
 
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