Are you satisfied with the quality of Flytanium Scales

J85909266 said:
To be honest, getting my Shaman into the Flytainium Ti scales was a huge pain. I did it because my girl bought them for me.


Pro tip: just dont mod basic, production knives. It's dumb. It's only good for social media pics.
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Titanium, brass, and copper are a significant upgrade over grivory and G10. To each their own.
 
Just got a set of the Flytanium canvas micarta crossfade scales for the mini Bugout and I am quite satisfied with my purchase. The scales fit very well. No complaints.

I love the fact that their new scale designs have thumb scallops!
 
I’ve only got one set but they are excellent. Perfect fit and finish, and a game changer for the Bugout. I highly recommend them.


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J85909266 said:
In what demonstrable way?
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Are you asking me to explain how copper, brass, and titanium are tougher to break than plastic?

Take the Bugout made of grivory for example, and compare it to one with Flytanium titanium scales. Not everything is an “Instagram pic”. Many aftermarket mods are an upgrade on durability, toughness, and resilience of the knife.

Whether it is necessary for every individual user is up for debate, sure… but I’ll take titanium over plastic any day of the week.
 
9D325061-C547-4380-831D-3F43E3AAAE94.jpegReceived and installed the Flytanium Manix 2 CF scales today. They were a bit of a pain to install due to the tight press fit of the lanyard tube, but after some gentle coercion, I got it done. Fit and finish is nice, the texture is VERY smooth. Very pleased for the price.
 
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These scales are a perfect fit, even after multiple dis-assemblies - tumblings - anoziding.
 
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Pmurt Dlanod said:
Are you asking me to explain how copper, brass, and titanium are tougher to break than plastic?
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Yeah, kind of. When in your life has the handle broken on you on a knife with steel liners and plastic scales?

I get that Ti and other metals are a visual and mental upgrade, but is there any actual benefit in use for 99% of quality knives? Especially considering the fact that they negatively affect weight and carry comfort. I get things like the bugout that are almost all flimsy plastic, but a steel lined G10 knife? At that point, it's basically cosmetic.
 
J85909266 said:
Yeah, kind of. When in your life has the handle broken on you on a knife with steel liners and plastic scales?

I get that Ti and other metals are a visual and mental upgrade, but is there any actual benefit in use for 99% of quality knives? Especially considering the fact that they negatively affect weight and carry comfort. I get things like the bugout that are almost all flimsy plastic, but a steel lined G10 knife? At that point, it's basically cosmetic.
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I was never in a head-on collision but I’m glad my car is made of steel and not wood.
 
J85909266 said:
Wait, you have gasoline powered pocket knives that are expected to withstand 60 mph impacts?

This changes everything...

BRB, buying the heaviest metal scales for all of my folders.
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I mean, you asked if I ever broke one of my knives… so I used a fitting analogy.
 
Pmurt Dlanod said:
I mean, you asked if I ever broke one of my knives… so I used a fitting analogy.
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Shaman full Ti: Collision impact tested, Pmurt Dlanod "Y'all can sling load DEEZ NUTS" approved.

I truly feel safer knowing that my pocket knife can withstand vehicular collisions.

Jokes aside, I love the Ti upgrades despite the drawbacks. It's fun and looks and feels cool. But I would not consider it a legitimate upgrade regarding performance over the G10 scales it came with. The scales were a gift from my girl, and I appreciate them, but I wouldn't buy this kind of upgrade myself.
 
J85909266 said:
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Shaman full Ti: Collision impact tested, Pmurt Dlanod "Y'all can sling load DEEZ NUTS" approved.

I truly feel safer knowing that my pocket knife can withstand vehicular collisions.

Jokes aside, I love the Ti upgrades despite the drawbacks. It's fun and looks and feels cool. But I would not consider it a legitimate upgrade regarding performance over the G10 scales it came with. The scales were a gift from my girl, and I appreciate them, but I wouldn't buy this kind of upgrade myself.
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I find it just a tad ironic that you’re literally carrying a TITANIUM shaman while bashing said scale upgrades for only being useful for “social media pictures”… as you stage a picture of said knife amongst a spilled box of cereal.

How much you want to bet that picture has been posted to social media somewhere? 😁
 
Pmurt Dlanod said:
I find it just a tad ironic that you’re literally carrying a TITANIUM shaman while bashing said scale upgrades for only being useful for “social media pictures”… as you stage a picture of said knife amongst a spilled box of cereal.

How much you want to bet that picture has been posted to social media somewhere? 😁
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I think you vastly misunderstand me. I have probably been posting pictures of my knives on social media since before you were legally allowed to purchase them. My quip was that they are only good for pretty pictures on social media and not much else. I never said I shy away from knife-related social media. I've been talking about and posting my knives online for close to 20 years.

I have stated that I love and use my full Ti Shaman, but that the scales were a gift, and I do not see them as a functional benefit. My actual point is that custom scales, especially ones made of heavy metal, are a cosmetic and status upgrade, not a functional upgrade. And worse, they will make your knife heavier, screw up the balance, and possibly mess up the symmetry of the parts. They also void the warranty in most cases.
 
J85909266 said:
I think you vastly misunderstand me. I have probably been posting pictures of my knives on social media (which I never brought up, ironically) since before you were legally allowed to purchase them.
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That’s interesting, considering social media didn’t exist until after I was “legally allowed to purchase knives”.
J85909266 said:
I have stated that I love and use my full Ti Shaman, but that the scales were a gift, and I do not see them as a functional benefit.
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They’re absolutely “functional”, otherwise you wouldn’t carry it.
J85909266 said:
My actual point is that custom scales, especially ones made of heavy metal, are a cosmetic and status upgrade, not a functional upgrade. And worse, they will make your knife heavier, screw up the balance, and possibly mess up the symmetry of the parts. They also void the warranty in most cases.
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I disagree. Manufacturers make knives out of plastic because it’s a numbers game. If a Shaman in G10 is say $200… and sells 5,000 units annually.. it would be logical to assume a titanium version would cost $300 and sell… let’s say 1,000 units a year.

Which is better… a million dollars, or $300,000? It has more to do with profitability and customer needs. But to speak in absolutes about titanium offering ZERO benefits above the G10 is false. Plenty of manufacturers use titanium in their scales because of the functional improvements. It might not always make sense financially for a company to use it, but it is in fact an upgrade… with the negative aspect of increased cost. G10, FRN, and grivory aren’t functional improvements, they are ECONOMIC. You can mill out titanium to balance properly and reduce weight so that argument is out.
 
Oh goodness. Here we go.

Chat rooms and forums are social media. If you honestly think social media did not exist before you were 18, then you must be in your golden years.

I never said they were not functional. You can't even execute a proper strawman fallacy. I said the the full metal scales were unnecessary. Not useless, unnecessary. There is a difference.

You are not a knife manufacturer, you do not have anything to do with mass produced high value folding cutlery. This entire last attempt at a point is all desperate conjecture and rationalization. It also completely assumes a point that you failed to make in the first place.

I am going to take this moment to decline further interaction on this topic. I just don't see it going anywhere useful. I hope no offense was taken by my disagreement, and that you have a nice Sunday.
 
J85909266 said:
Oh goodness. Here we go.

Chat rooms and forums are social media. If you honestly think social media did not exist before you were 18, then you must be in your golden years.
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If everything is “social media”, then the phrase doesn’t need to exist, does it?
J85909266 said:
I never said they were not functional. You can't even execute a proper strawman fallacy. I said the the full metal scales were unnecessary. Not useless, unnecessary. There is a difference.
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But I disputed your rationale for “non-functional” by showing they are in fact “functional”. Does your knife work with the ti scales? Boom. “FUNCTIONAL”.
J85909266 said:
You are not a knife manufacturer, you do not have anything to do with mass produced high value folding cutlery. This entire last attempt at a point is all desperate conjecture and rationalization. It also completely assumes a point that you failed to make in the first place.
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I’m not allowed to have an opinion on knife manufacturing since I’m not a “knife manufacturer”? Great. I suppose you’ll live by that logic and stop posting as well?
J85909266 said:
I am going to take this moment to decline further interaction on this topic. I just don't see it going anywhere useful. I hope no offense was taken by my disagreement, and that you have a nice Sunday.
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You give offense by mocking my age, understanding of knife function, and my rationale on profitability vs. functionality and now you want to say you hope “no offense was taken”? I don’t do the “kill them with kindness” routine. Buh-bye.
 
I bought a set of titanium scales for my BM Bugout.
I had to work for the Bugout frame to fit inside flush, then the blade was off center, then side to side blade play.
I really don't think I'll buy another set from them.
I really like Applied Weapons Technology scales. If AWT started offering titanium and other metals.
Expands product line for more knives. I'd be a customer for life and they would be my one stop shop.
 
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