ASHBM killed my pinky finger...

JohnM said:
Maybe size matters. jd4320t -- do you have large hands?
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Edit. I somehow read your post as you asking if I have small hands. My hands are definitely larger than average. I know my friend DaKruisers' hands are even bigger than mine.
 
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Maybe you could take a picture of your hand gripping the handle so we could see what your working with. You might have freakishly large hands. I have big hands and wear extra large gloves, and I think my Ashbm is comfortable.
 
Lennyo3034 said:
Bushwacker Mistress is worse for your pinky:


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Ouch!
 
magnus617 said:
Maybe you could take a picture of your hand gripping the handle so we could see what your working with. You might have freakishly large hands. I have big hands and wear extra large gloves, and I think my Ashbm is comfortable.
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I'll try to take some pics of my grip.


Edit: Pics added in OP
 
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If it stays dry enough today I'll take a picture of the two (SHSH and ASHBM) I sat one atop the other and they are very close indeed.

The scales are the biggest difference, the swell in the middle of the magnum type scales do hold the hand in one place better than the much less contoured originals. But, my pinky is very close to the back as well, less than 1/4". Seems like enough though to keep me off the back end if the scales held me secure enough.

I use a wrist snap method when I chop with knives, first two fingers are doing the gripping while the back two are only there for support. I wonder if that is why I would hit the back of the knife? How does everyone here do it? I learned this technique a long time ago with khukri's, the effectiveness of these knives is raised by bounds when you snap your wrist. Plus it doesn't tire me out near as quick as when I lock my wrist and chop with my whole arm.
 
leatherman said:
If it stays dry enough today I'll take a picture of the two (SHSH and ASHBM) I sat one atop the other and they are very close indeed.

The scales are the biggest difference, the swell in the middle of the magnum type scales do hold the hand in one place better than the much less contoured originals. But, my pinky is very close to the back as well, less than 1/4". Seems like enough though to keep me off the back end if the scales held me secure enough.

I use a wrist snap method when I chop with knives, first two fingers are doing the gripping while the back two are only there for support. I wonder if that is why I would hit the back of the knife? How does everyone here do it? I learned this technique a long time ago with khukri's, the effectiveness of these knives is raised by bounds when you snap your wrist. Plus it doesn't tire me out near as quick as when I lock my wrist and chop with my whole arm.
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One of the first things I said was maybe for me it needs some big magnum handles. I tried to keep my pinky off the back end but couldn't get it.

Here are some pics of my grip:





 
blisters turn to calluses eventually :) chop more :)
Gloves help if you want to keep your hands soft and supple :)

Really though, the steel and canvas scales are way harder than your hands, rubber is soft.

The fusion handles will tear your hands up a little and they tend to slip in sweaty hands.
The tail hook for me really helps keep the knife in hand, sure you may get some abrading but I love it.
May hand fits snug between the talon holes so it kind of locks in.

Gloves will help a bunch
 
jd4320t said:
Edit. I somehow read your post as you asking if I have small hands. My hands are definitely larger than average. I know my friend DaKruisers' hands are even bigger than mine.
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Thanks jd4320t. Your hands look larger than average, at least large enough that you're getting some rub in back, on the rear talon/pommel/bolster. What is that thing called?

One of the few benefits of having smaller hands (cuz you know what they say about large hands) is that my pinky doesn't reach back that far -- there's clearance between it and the back of the knife.
 
Yup..
If I'm doin a serious chopping session--Gloves R On.
My med./Large hands don't have no prob's with ASHBM.
 
You definitely have large hands! My hands fit some what similar, but my one blessing is I think my fingers are skinnier, so I have a little more room.
 
I understand how gloves would help with the friction but the blister wasn't really the problem. The vibration or whatever it is that's causing the pain is the problem.

I've chopped a lot with quite a few knives without gloves and never had a problem. I wear gloves when I need to.

I guess this one will go up for sale.
 
JohnM said:
... in back, on the rear talon/pommel/bolster. What is that thing called?
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It's called a bird's beak or rear guard/quillon (pronounced key-on). A forumite @ knifetests.com coined the term "pommel spur" but that may be less obvious than the "birds beak" imagery (like Mary Poppins' umbrella).


The SHBM has a more dramatic transition into the beak than a lot of other knives. My advice to mitigate the issue: fill in the corner of the transition (with a handle-wrap of some kind) so that it slopes out from the handle to the beak. A secondary benefit of this is that the sides of the pommel widen to make it harder for your hand to slide down that far. Does this make sense or should I post some sort of illustration?
 
jd4320t said:
I understand how gloves would help with the friction but the blister wasn't really the problem. The vibration or whatever it is that's causing the pain is the problem.

I've chopped a lot with quite a few knives without gloves and never had a problem. I wear gloves when I need to.

I guess this one will go up for sale.
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I've been wondering about this. iirc isn't this one skeletonized inside instead of the web left like the LB series is? I've still got an article in a magazine where Jerry mentions that vibration is the issue of such a skeletonized handle.
 
leatherman said:
I've been wondering about this. iirc isn't this one skeletonized inside instead of the web left like the LB series is? I've still got an article in a magazine where Jerry mentions that vibration is the issue of such a skeletonized handle.
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Exactly. Several years ago there was a discussion around balance and weight distribution in large blades, and a few people wanted to know why Busse would not drill or otherwise skeletonize the handle on choppers. Jerry responded that, in their testing, such handle treatments led to increased vibrations to the user. Fair enough; he did the testing and I didn't. As a scientist, I'm all about testing and data.

Later he announced the new Light Brigade treatment, where selective milling created an I-beam web in the handle to remove weight without compromising strength or stiffness, or causing vibration. OK, sounds cool to me.

Then he announces that the new ASHBM will have a LB treatment, but it will be effected by drilling out the handle, no more I-beam web.

???? WTF?

Sorry, hello, does anyone remember what was stated here before? Some of us do.

How do we reconcile previous declarations with current events?

These questions have come up before, since the ASHBM has been announced, and there has been no official response.

Enquiring minds want to know. We are not all drunk, all the time.









Only some of the time.
 
resinguy said:
Exactly. Several years ago there was a discussion around balance and weight distribution in large blades, and a few people wanted to know why Busse would not drill or otherwise skeletonize the handle on choppers. Jerry responded that, in their testing, such handle treatments led to increased vibrations to the user. Fair enough; he did the testing and I didn't. As a scientist, I'm all about testing and data.

Later he announced the new Light Brigade treatment, where selective milling created an I-beam web in the handle to remove weight without compromising strength or stiffness, or causing vibration. OK, sounds cool to me.

Then he announces that the new ASHBM will have a LB treatment, but it will be effected by drilling out the handle, no more I-beam web.

???? WTF?

Sorry, hello, does anyone remember what was stated here before? Some of us do.

How do we reconcile previous declarations with current events?

These questions have come up before, since the ASHBM has been announced, and there has been no official response.

Enquiring minds want to know. We are not all drunk, all the time.









Only some of the time.
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+1 can we get a response.
 
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