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Discussion in 'Ontario Knife Company' started by OntarioKnifeCompany, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. Toooj

    Toooj

    920
    Aug 8, 2006
    antttt,

    Sorry for not answering your other post. It got away from me.
    I don't know the exact reasoning for the shape and features on the Cerberus but I do know from the many Spec Ops people that I know, is that they have different skill sets for knives that aren't what the a regular infantry or combat soldier needs.
    Maybe some former spec ops people will hop in and elaborate in more detail. I have my opinions but I'm sure it is not complete.

    Best Regards,

    Paul Tsujimoto
    V.P. of Engineering
    Ontario Knife Company
     
  2. anttttt

    anttttt

    121
    Mar 27, 2015
    Toooj, thanks for the reply.
     
  3. Roguer

    Roguer

    927
    Jan 5, 2015
    The Cerberus was going to go in to military production but the financing got pulled for it. But as we were told OKC has put a lot of sweat and equity in to it, they are selling it to the public so any one can get it who might need it. I got two myself, its a nice light weight general carry that can cut and slice and dice. Its a great fix blade carry for when having my other bigger blades also, its so slim and light. One can never have to many knives in the wild wilderness wilderhood, aka camp site when herding kids for an outing. All them pokie sticks needed for cooking things need to be cut!
     
  4. Mick P

    Mick P

    114
    Sep 23, 2014
    Hi Tooj,
    Thanks. Appreciate ur time
    Mick P
     
  5. dirc

    dirc

    Jan 31, 2018
    FWIW, I find this a bit confusing...
    this steel should have almost 0.5% carbon (or 0.46% at least)
    http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=420hc

    at 0.3% you're likely using the 420j2 standard http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=420j2

    the other interesting difference between the steels, besides the carbon amount, is the fact that 420hc has vanadium, while j2 does not... that should make it easier to confirm which one it is?
     
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  6. StrangeDaze

    StrangeDaze

    984
    Mar 20, 2016
    Hey @Toooj , is the ontario bushcraft machete still being made in 5160 or has it gone to 420 ss like pkj has said?
     
  7. Toooj

    Toooj

    920
    Aug 8, 2006
    Meshach,

    It is now being made in 420 HC.
    We are trying to jump start that line and seeing if a lower price point will help.
    Hope this helps.

    Best Regards,

    Paul Tsujimoto
    V.P. of Engineering
    Ontario Knife Company
     
  8. TwinStick

    TwinStick

    Jan 21, 2011
    Toooj,

    I was in the"World's Foremost Outfitter" the other day & spied 2 OKC knives i really liked. Can't find them on any website anywhere, even theirs, or OKC. Are they an exclusive for that store ??? Can't wait for payday. It's been a while since i bought some sharp steel.

    Thanks
    TwinStick
     
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  9. Boggs

    Boggs

    Feb 27, 2007
    Twinstick....

    Yes , Cabellas does receive exclusives from Ontario...I know recently it’s been the Rat 3 and 7
     
  10. Toooj

    Toooj

    920
    Aug 8, 2006
    Hi Twinstick,

    Hope all is well. How is your family?
    As Boggs says; we do offer exclusives to various distributors and Big Box stores. If what you see isn't exactly on our website, it typically must be bought at that particular store.
    Get it there and it will probably be cheaper than getting an equivalent knife from our website.
    Hope this helps.

    Best Regards,

    Paul Tsujimoto
    V.P. of Engineering
    Ontario Knife Company
     
  11. Yonose

    Yonose

    Jul 10, 2017
    Tooj,
    I think I saw a few rat3 in d2 on their website—what attention to detail on every aspect, from the thick leather sheath to the walnut handles!! Not the same I realize as you are talking about but I’d like to know who’s idea this masterpiece was!!!

    Yonose
     
  12. knomad

    knomad

    33
    Feb 23, 2013
    Tooj! Long time listener, first time caller.

    I just purchased a kukri via Amazon, and the tang stamps are different from OKC's website, and pretty much anything I'm seeing online, anywhere. Any chance the stamp has been switched up?

    I've seen a few broken ones online, but I'm not convinced they were legit.

    Thanks for all you do!

    EDIT: Pics to follow, had to run back to work
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2018
  13. Toooj

    Toooj

    920
    Aug 8, 2006
    Yonose,

    If you are talking about the Limited Ed Rat 3 hunter; D2 exhibition grade walnut handles and leather sheath...that was my idea to use up some inventory.
    Most new products come from my team. Some of the Big box modifications of regular products (like handle color changes) are committee driven.

    Knomad,

    Thanks for your kind words. Don't be afraid to ask questions or engage in discussion. That's what the forum is for.
    We did a few stamp/logo changes to our product line over the last several years...going from stamping to laser etching, and then changing the logos/ blade info.
    Some of the broken Khuks were legit, some not. Of course, the broken ones are immediately retrieved and exchanged. We always ask for the product to be returned; first to analyze the malfunction, secondly it helps to minimize the scammers. If they can't send the product back us...at our expense, or they don't have a good paper trail they are politely deep 6ed. Of course the outrage on the other end is immediate but it doesn't last too long.

    Hope this helps.

    Best Regards,

    Paul Tsujimoto
    V.P. of Engineering
    Ontario Knife Company
     
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  14. Roguer

    Roguer

    927
    Jan 5, 2015
    Tooj:

    Is the metal all the same on the SS Bushcraft? There seems to be some confuzeration of the 420 SS of the Woodsman knife.
     
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  15. Yonose

    Yonose

    Jul 10, 2017

    Yes, that’s the one, it’s unforgettable in execution—if not a bit pricey on the website. I wish I had bought two of them at bladehq when they came out at about half msrp. I know I’ll never sharpen the one I have far enough down to require another one, it’s just that I wish I had bought a backup—it’s one of my favorite small fixed blades. Thanks for making thIs a reality!!!

    Dave
     
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  16. TreeStalker

    TreeStalker

    1
    Aug 30, 2018
    What are the chances that another run of the 498M's will be produced?
     
  17. TwinStick

    TwinStick

    Jan 21, 2011

    Thanks Toooj, Family is well. Daughter was top of her class in the NY University Police Academy, then she quit......found out 4 months later why.......it seems during their training, they had different officers from different agency's, come in & "in her words" basically teach them on how to violate peoples rights & do endruns around the Constitution, by lying etc., to get people out of their vehicles & conduct warrant-less searches & other stuff along those lines. I raised my kids to be ever vigilant of their Constitutional & Civil Rights. I guess they were listening. I guess thats why we see so many instances of bad policing on the news these days. So anyways, she is back in College working on her Masters & maybe even a Doctorate Degree & working at SUNY Brockport right now. Our son got his Masters & is working at SUNY Oneonta. Wife & I are both retired now, money is tight but we are LOVING LIFE. I really hated my job at the end. Worst job on the planet IMHO.

    Will be heading back there & re-evaluating those 2 blades & may add them to my stable, IDK.
     
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  18. Toooj

    Toooj

    920
    Aug 8, 2006
    Twinstick,

    Good for your daughter. She was always pretty together. Good for you and your wife. Retirement is closer and closer for me. I'm holding out for 2-3 years until my son is well on the way out of college.
    He started this year.
    Glad you popped in. I remember your daughter so many years ago. I gave her a pink Dozier Folding Hunter and she gave it back because she wanted a black handled knife. LOL...She wasn't the pink kind of girl.

    Treestalker,

    If you mean the 498 with no bloodgroove and swedge that we did for Wally World; No probably not. That was done for them as an exclusive and it ran it's course.

    Roguer,

    All of the Bushcraft series are changed over to 420HC Stainless steel. You can probably still find some of the 5160 blades out there but you'll have to do some searching.

    Hope all of this helps.

    Best Regards,

    Paul Tsujimoto
    V.P. of Engineering
    Ontario Knife Company
     
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  19. knomad

    knomad

    33
    Feb 23, 2013
    Toooj,

    Thanks for the reply! I managed to squeeze off an email to Ontario customer service, they replied as well. They pretty much confirmed it was a real one. I didn't get pics snapped, but I'll post some new ones in the pic thread sometime soon.
     
  20. StrangeDaze

    StrangeDaze

    984
    Mar 20, 2016
    I cant stop thinking about them in 5160! Any advice on how to go about getting one?
     

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