At times I might have said that............

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Is the point that it took two minutes to get through a one inch sapling? Or is it just a knife you really like?
 
Spooky I think he was being sarcastic :D Anyhow, I saw that video in the 'Fail' thread and laughed my ass off for about 5 min after the video was completed. The sincerity of the knifemaker maker in trying to demonstrate how good the knife is what is so funny. In the end, I guess that is one of the real services that BF provides. Helping to separate the good from the bad!

Maybe somebody should send the maker the link to Kevin's post on how to cut a sapling.
 
I am editing this post. I apologize for my comments and realize that even though my comments reflected my honest opinion, they weren't said in the best manner. I hope there are no hard feelings with the maker or anyone else in W&S.

Hopefully the guy does learn some better technique and keeps improving his knives.
 
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While the knife is definitely not for me I don't think the failure was in the knife so much as in the execution of poor technique...I've taken down trees faster with a mora... as a matter of fact anything sharp can be used to take down trees of up to wrist thickness in a much faster way.
 
The "guy"in the video is a contributer here, under the handle "ArcherHere"and he is a new maker that is a class act. He might not have the same taste in knives as you, but he doesnt throw stones at anyone. Yet he takes alot of heat from crueler members. I for one try take something away from a person that gets critisized for trying, and keeps at it.
He also put together a very informative video series for all of us on how to make a bow. I think posts aimed at insulting someone belong in whine and cheese, and not Wss, this isnt what I come here for.
edit: John, not at you, the OP and I agree, the technique could be improved.
 
That guy and video took a bashing in the whine and cheese allready.

No the knife is far from anything I would carry and his technique definately needs work, but he is a member here that has contributed with a bowmaking thread. So lets leave him be......
 
Agreed! Whole heartedly..AS i mentioned I have nothing against the maker or the blade..as blade taste is largely subjective.. technique in this particular task needs work. But than again I can't make a bow...and I've made plenty of videos that where far from my proudest moments (especially the one with the donkey LOL) With everyones permission, Maybe we can have the mods get rid of this thread so noone gets hurt...
 
His knife looks similar to a Schrade 15OT Deerslayer in design, which is a good general camp and hunting blade. Mine is 30 years old and shaving sharp 1095:

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that guy simply has no grasp of blade geometry. Once he learns to grind and sharpen a knife, his knives will probably cut.

BTW, it is not cruel to be honest. People gave him very good advice, and he spazzed out and locked his threads. A few months ago, IIRC, he was using crap steel and no heat treat, and had the same inflated opinion of himself.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
BTW, it is not cruel to be honest. People gave him very good advice, and he spazzed out and locked his threads. A few months ago, IIRC, he was using crap steel and no heat treat, and had the same inflated opinion of himself.
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I understand that and I totally agree. But like you said; he has heard it all before, decided not to take anyones advice, and then closed all his threads. He obviously doesn't care for our oppinion. So whats the point in talking about him here..... thats my only point.

When he originally posted his knives here we let him know how we felt about them, and instead asked him on info of his bows. He took the time to make a few videos for us here on traditional bow making; IMO that was really cool of him. He seams to know what he is doing with those. As for his kind of sharp metal things, well I think we are all in agreement about those......:)
 
tonym said:
I understand that and I totally agree. But like you said; he has heard it all before, decided not to take anyones advice, and then closed all his threads. He obviously doesn't care for our oppinion. So whats the point in talking about him here..... thats my only point.
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As long as he continues to post self promotional videos, people are going to discuss him. Not much can be done about that. his bows are pretty bad too, but that is another subject.
 
Has anyone been to the website? I really dont want to say much here. And being this is BF probably dont have to....

Not trying to disrespect or throw stones but, hmmmm.....
 
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his bows are pretty bad too, but that is another subject.
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Why is that the only thing you have to post is negative?

yes this is the subject, and this would be the place to talk about it, do you have something that you have made to compare it too?

I would love to see it, other wise you have no business ripping on people, discussion on peoples work is valid in this section of the forum, point out every problem is not for the this area, your wine and chesse how ever is, but then again, when that section is going slack you must need to look around for other things to go at, but to each his own.
 
As I've said in half a dozen other threads on this, the guy is trying, and he is improving. He needs to seriously work on his grinds and fit, but he has come a long way in a short time considering how he started out.

The first reply to his first post here was an insult, and he's got crap every which way he turns since then. Some great makers have offered him advice. Sometimes he takes it, others he doesn't. He's been on the defensive since he started here, so that may be why he gets argumentative in his responses.

The style of his knives is personal. I don't care for a lot of them, but then I think Nessmuks are silly, so ...
 
Fonly said:
Why is that the only thing you have to post is negative?

yes this is the subject, and this would be the place to talk about it, do you have something that you have made to compare it too?

I would love to see it, other wise you have no business ripping on people, discussion on peoples work is valid in this section of the forum, point out every problem is not for the this area, your wine and chesse how ever is, but then again, when that section is going slack you must need to look around for other things to go at, but to each his own.
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One does not need to make bows or knives to know a good one from a crappy one. That is the stupidest argument possible. I can guarantee when/if I do start making knives, I will never shamelessly promote an embarrassingly inferior product.

You wanted some comments on his bows? Here is a couple:
his bows are weaker/slower than youth bows, and his "recurves" are straight.
 
Fonly said:
Why is that the only thing you have to post is negative?

yes this is the subject, and this would be the place to talk about it, do you have something that you have made to compare it too?

I would love to see it, other wise you have no business ripping on people, discussion on peoples work is valid in this section of the forum, point out every problem is not for the this area, your wine and chesse how ever is, but then again, when that section is going slack you must need to look around for other things to go at, but to each his own.
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I agree with that.

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He has certainly come a long way on his knives in the for sale area in terms of finish and has a certain personal flare when it comes to design (a bit united cutlery-ish for my tastes).

However, that said, I don't think there is anything wrong with being critical, even if it is highly critical, of makers who are selling their wares and exhibit less experience than their marketing seems to imply. Now we got rock video's and music in the background and everything all kind of gimmick'd tricks that probably bring in the teenage boys in droves. Seriously though, he tried to step right up to the league of makers who have been spending years on their craft and developing skills.

When I see the posted video it tells me that the person doesn't really know much about wood working. So how is he supposed to know how to make a knife designed for such a purposes? Then I see guys like Bryan Breeden who is posting about camping and firemaking all the time, a guy who loves the outdoors and using knives (not only his own) in the outdoors. He just happens to be a maker too and I trust his work. Similar goes for Andy, Scott Gossman and others. Heck, we have Rick who is master of cold survival, sews all his winter clothing and just happens to make awesome knives.

To me, these fellows know the importance of their heat treat and what it really means to have to rely on your knife in the woods. While they certainly put aesthetics into their knife designs, it usually isn't their first consideration. I guess I just trust that and part of this trust has to do with what I know of their character. I also don't see these folks, the ones I respect, engaging in the same kind of over-hyped marketing strategies.

If you put yourself out there, and you are selling what you are promoting, then you better be willing to take some critique.
 
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He has certainly come a long way on his knives in the for sale area in terms of finish and has a certain personal flare when it comes to design (a bit united cutlery-ish for my tastes).

However, that said, I don't think there is anything wrong with being critical, even if it is highly critical, of makers who are selling their wares and exhibit less experience than their marketing seems to imply. Now we got rock video's and music in the background and everything all kind of gimmick'd tricks that probably bring in the teenage boys in droves. Seriously though, he tried to step right up to the league of makers who have been spending years on their craft and developing skills.

When I see the posted video it tells me that the person doesn't really know much about wood working. So how is he supposed to know how to make a knife designed for such a purposes? Then I see guys like Bryan Breeden who is posting about camping and firemaking all the time, a guy who loves the outdoors and using knives (not only his own) in the outdoors. He just happens to be a maker too and I trust his work. Similar goes for Andy, Scott Gossman and others. Heck, we have Rick who is master of cold survival, sews all his winter clothing and just happens to make awesome knives.

To me, these fellows know the importance of their heat treat and what it really means to have to rely on your knife in the woods. While they certainly put aesthetics into their knife designs, it usually isn't their first consideration. I guess I just trust that and part of this trust has to do with what I know of their character. I also don't see these folks, the ones I respect, engaging in the same kind of over-hyped marketing strategies.

If you put yourself out there, and you are selling what you are promoting, then you better be willing to take some critique.
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Very well said.
I do not know much about knife making, however from what I have read it seems he has a bad HT and can't sharpen (Apparent in video) very well. If you make a video promoting your knife, than you should at least be willing to let more experience knife minds teach you on how to sharpen and heat treat properly so that your knives will turn out good.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
One does not need to make bows or knives to know a good one from a crappy one. That is the stupidest argument possible. I can guarantee when/if I do start making knives, I will never shamelessly promote an embarrassingly inferior product.

You wanted some comments on his bows? Here is a couple:
his bows are weaker/slower than youth bows, and his "recurves" are straight.
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I gotta jump on the boat with RF. Alot of good people here on W&SS an I get a little defensive and combative when I see someone trying to peddle what I consider junk, for outrageous prices for what they are, here on the forums.

Folks have said that he has refused advice from people who have been in the knife game a while , and just look at what the going price of some of that garbage is. I will call a spade a spade and what i see on that guys site is overpriced s**t that nobody should be spendin those kinds of bucks on. Some of those bows are ridiculously designed, poorley tillered (the models for the website no less!!!:eek:) and executed poorley in the craftmanship realm.

Again Im not just cutting down the guy for sport but this forum particuraly is a place where someone might be wanting to start out in traditional archery and just not know any better.

I smell BS and dont want any of the good folks here getting jipped.

Rant off:D
 
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