At what point does brand love go overboard ?

22-rimfire said:
One of my early blades for fun was a Gerber boot dagger. Actually tried using the knife like a regular knife and gave up on that concept.

Did Al Gore invent the internet yet in the 80's and 90's? For regular folks AOL paved the way for internet access in the early to mid-90's and things got better with the advent of the 486 and then Pentium personal computers.
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I don't carry DE fighting knives much anymore . Not very useful except to stab someone , which need doesn't often arise . Legal and social issues abound with CC of true fighting knives in general . Just not worth it for my current situation / lifestyle .
 
DocJD said:
Way back , 80's and 90's , I had a nice dagger collection that included SOG and Gerber . Lost to theft . Much later when I went to replace them , I was appalled by the the reduction in quality . The inner fanboy felt betrayed and I've never bought from either company again .:mad:

On a less serious note : Get over it ! :p
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It would seem I'm not the one who needs to get over anything.

I'd still recommend some of the aus8 sogs and certainly the seki vg10 arc lock folders. The rest of the new stuff has gone to hell. In the spirit of this thread and as a fan of the company, it is important to remain as objective as possible. Sometimes things just suck no matter how bad you want them not to.
 
Yonose said:
Al Gore invented the internet as we know it around 1990. Lol. Macs and ibm pc’s were what we were using back in 93. It wasn’t that long ago, maybe 2003-4 that fast speeds were generally available making access quick and easy.
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It all depends on where you were 90-93. I was at a University with close ties to SGI and used a Unix, Silicon Graphics workstation worth $15k to surf the DARPA.net.
 
Tommy-Chi said:
It all depends on where you were 90-93. I was at a University with close ties to SGI and used a Unix, Silicon Graphics workstation worth $15k to surf the DARPA.net.
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I used some sort of workstation in the mid-80's via time sharing at work. One of the Engineers had an Apple Mac but by today's standards it was really low powered. For myself, I only got DSL (relatively fast internet connection) in 2005 and that is when visiting the forums became fun and not pure druggery for stuff to load. Before that, I mostly used the internet for email and some news. I honestly don't use it for much now as little has changed. But for work stuff I need a fast connection and I stepped up from DSL. Things have really changed.
 
Tommy-Chi said:
It all depends on where you were 90-93. I was at a University with close ties to SGI and used a Unix, Silicon Graphics workstation worth $15k to surf the DARPA.net.
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Did you get busted? The d was for defense, which was originally supposed to be “in support of government” but I thought they laid it to rest in 1990. Then the mighty al gore’s bill passed in 1991. By we I meant undergrads and grads not working on the servers etc. I found “surfing” back in 93 to be more like standing in a puddle, ram was 256kb or something absurdly slow. I mostly used macs for excel physics experiments, email, word, and publishing. It wasn’t fun “for me anyway” (apart from email)until dedicated graphics hit 2gb, ram at least 4g (dual channel), processors had multiple cores,and connection speed 50mb/s. Which isn’t that long ago. Turning my pc on at work was a major pita and waste of time still in 1998. Now even my rarely used tower goes from off to surfing in a lot less than a minute.
 
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Yonose said:
Did you get busted? The d was for defense, which was originally supposed to be “in support of government” but I thought they laid it to rest in 1990. Then the mighty al gore’s bill passed in 1991. By we I meant undergrads and grads not working on the servers etc. I found “surfing” back in 93 to be more like standing in a puddle, ram was 256kb or something absurdly slow. I mostly used macs for excel physics experiments, email, word, and publishing. It wasn’t fun “for me anyway” (apart from email)until dedicated graphics hit 2gb, ram at least 4g (dual channel), processors had multiple cores,and connection speed 50mb/s. Which isn’t that long ago. Turning my pc on at work was a major pita and waste of time still in 1998. Now even my rarely used tower goes from off to surfing in a lot less than a minute.
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The network backbone was in long before AlGar got his mitts all over it. It was ARPA or DARPA.net, I thought DARPA. Then it became MIL.net, then went back to DARPA and finally Internet.

The SGI's that I used from ~90 on at school and work in the research park all had 21 inch monitors. One system was called the ONYX, which came out in 93, and we used it to make engineering raster graphic videos for litigation and engineering firms. One of the engineering graduates ended up at SGI and wanted to help the uni, so they worked out a deal on a huge batch of SGIs. The uni was loaded with SGI's and Solaris Unix workstations...they were all over the place.
 
Tommy-Chi said:
The network backbone was in long before AlGar got his mitts all over it. It was ARPA or DARPA.net, I thought DARPA. Then it became MIL.net, then went back to DARPA and finally Internet.

The SGI's that I used from ~90 on at school and work in the research park all had 21 inch monitors. One system was called the ONYX, which came out in 93, and we used it to make engineering raster graphic videos for litigation and engineering firms. One of the engineering graduates ended up at SGI and wanted to help the uni, so they worked out a deal on a huge batch of SGIs. The uni was loaded with SGI's and Solaris Unix workstations...they were all over the place.
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I don’t know much about ARPA before it became a civilian network, but I know my Uncle worked on the system or its predecessor during the Vietnam War, at the US Air Force base at, I believe was in Okinawa. He never told me anything memorable about it, being required to have some level of security clearance in order to perform his duties as a member of the Air Force.
 
From what I have read, the "internet" was commercial and government until 1996. That is when the internet spawned into what we know today as the world wide web/internet. The 1998 movie "You Got Mail" was a huge awakening for the general population.
 
22-rimfire said:
From what I have read, the "internet" was commercial and government until 1996. That is when the internet spawned into what we know today as the world wide web/internet. The 1998 movie "You Got Mail" was a huge awakening for the general population.
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I owned a webhosting co from 94-97, and had to bring a laptop around to show people what the Internet was for sales!!!! All of the business owners were like, "What do I need to advertise on the Internet for. I've never heard of it!"
 
Back on topic:

One way is when somebody dismisses a brand or a certain model they self-admittedly have never tried but you like as 'crappy' or 'useless', and your response is, "You just need to buy one, try it out, and then you'll see how great it is."

First off, if some person is giving a negative or misinformed opinion, unless they're trolling by spreading misleading information, who cares? Expecting somebody to actually buy something, especially a high-end brand knife (for example, like a CRK), just to be 'shown the light', is silly. Even if they did purchase one by chance, they still may not like it. Everybody doesn't have to like the same things, just like everybody doesn't have to have the same belief systems.

Jim
 
I have more Cold Steel toys (dangerous toys) than I would like to admit. I think purchasing the Lynn Thompson Vaquero, or the Steve Austin knives IS going too far. Is Stephen Segal's name splashed all over his expensive stuff too?

I am disappointed with SOG, and haven't had any interest in even looking at their products for about 4 years. My last 'new product' purchase was the large Zoom.
 
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mwhich50 said:
...I am disappointed with SOG, and haven't had any interest in even looking at their products for about 4 years. My last 'new product' purchase was the large Zoom.
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My last was the Access Card 2.0 with a sheepsfoot blade which I like and recommend. The Seki stuff is still very good, but you certainly pay for it.
 
marcinek said:
And this "internet" chit chat has to do with knives how exactly?
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It doesn't directly. But, without the changes on speed most of the forums would have died a slow death and only the hard core folks would have tolerated the slow speeds. So, that's the connection to BF (and knives) and social forums in general but not really on topic.
 
Around 90% of my knives are made by the same company. I am a fan boy but I have not reached the point where I feel their competitors are actually inferior and i do not blindly support just one company. I just know what I like.
 
Not a fanboy for anyone really other than maybe GEC. Yes, I know what I like, and the companies that make a product that I am normally comfortable with or like tends to get preference when I choose. I seldom buy something now just to try out. But I typically buy the majority of my knives from knife stores. I want to get a Case slippie some time in the near future just to refresh my memory on their normal product quality. Added: It will probably be a peanut as it's about the only pattern that I like that I don't already own.

Added 2nd Time: Got a Case Peanut today. It's my first. Will play around with it. It is stag, so it was fairly expensive. Typical Case.... blades not centered, but reasonable snap. Poorly sharpened.
 
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knarfeng said:
The milestone is reached when your love of a brand or model is so intense that you do not leave room for other people to like anything else. When anyone who does not love that same brand or model is automatically a fool.
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stabman said:
When someone not liking "your" brand gives you fits of rage.
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... I think these two point from 'feng and 'stabby are about the best summations I have read here. We see it day in and out here when someone expresses MILD distaste for a certain product (not even a whole "brand") and it causes a frantic and vitriolic response. I have a couple of brands I am most passionate about, I will happily provide my view on those brands and what i like about them for my purposes, but if someone wants to makes a point about why they don't. that is their view and I may just learn something from them. That said...when someone just bursts into "Brand X's" forum and starts shouting "Brand X sucks a big hairy pole" without discussion or explanation then they should expect to be called a tool by Brand X and it's fans. That is most different to saying "hey I handled a Brand X Model 1 last weekend and it just didn't work for me, I prefer something like..... "
 
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