attempting to make your own paper wheels could be dangerous or deadly

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if you want to use the wheels then thats you. i just dont think it was a good idea to post pictures of something that can be dangerous or deadly. thats the issue i have with what you rigged up. like i stated before, i happen to care for the safety of members here and what you have postes shows you obviously dont. i have seen people injured from contraptions such as yours and it scares me like i stated many times before that some kid with not enough common sense to know something dangerous when he sees it, will actually try what you posted and get seriously hurt. i see that you still havent addressed the safety issues i have and from the picture culpeper posted above shows you dont care much for safety. a disclaimer isnt going to keep a kid from getting hurt.
 
richard j, I appreciate your warnings, but I honestly don't think the are, as siguy has presented them, as dangerous as you indicate. As long as the knives are sharpened with the edge trailing, the wheel diameter is not excessive nor unbalanced, and some sense is used so that the edge won't slice you and the knife will tend to be thrown away from you should the knife be caught, I don't see a significantly higher risk than a solid cardboard wheel or cloth wheel.
 
the solid wheels are just that, solid and not full of holes like the contraption he made. how many years of experience do you have with buffing? i started making knives back in 1990 and have been using the wheels for the past 17 years. evidently you dont see the danger that i do. do you have any experience with using a buffer other than occasionally? if somebody asked me what to do to be eligible for a darwin award, his contraption would be it.
 
I guess you've never seen the pics of cut up hands, or the stories of them landing point down right next to the flipper's feet.

oh, shut down the testing forum, people hit knives with hammers, put them in vices and pry against them, chop concrete

Dangerous stuff goes flying through the air all the time with what people do to knives. We should also cease bringing up cloth buffers, belt grinders, salt pots, grinding micarta, and the various other health hazards.
 
Man, this thread and the other one popped up out of nowhere. I always do appreciate a good home made project, but I'd have to agree I'm not one for projects involving power equipment. I can visualize the trailing motion which would make a lot more sense, but it still would seem unadviseable to reproduce the home made wheel. Perhaps siguy had a good run or two with his wheels that other guys would have problems with and cause harm to themselves.

Either way it's viewed, the real deals aren't that much in price, and it seems that making the wheels yourself would take up more time/money than going out and getting them from the store.

Thanks for the heads up richard j :thumbup:

As for siguy, thanks for sharing.
 
if it wasnt important to inform people that attempting to make your own wheels was dangerous, i would lock this thread but i was told to leave it open so i am. the wheels i use have been around and tested for years as well as cotton buffing wheels and balisongs. for years people have known the dangers of these items and use them at their own risks. if someone wants to compete for the darwin award then thats their choice, just dont show others how to compete too.
 
For the few dollars saved, the risk of something homemade flying around at thousands of RPM's is just not worth it.

Buffing accidents are usually catastrophic, like an aircraft if it goes wrong the results are usually 'terrible'.

I have gotten to know Richard J, he knows his stuff well. Take the advice here and save your fingers or more.

Buffing is by far the most dangerous step in knifemaking, I would never cut corners during this stage of work. Use every added layer of safety available to you during buffing.

I would rather see pictures of completed knives than those of shop injuries
 
well said buford. i have seen guys with long loose hair get hair and scalp tore out of their head from drill presses. i have seen guys grab long chips from a lathe with their hands while the lathe was still running get hurt bad from the chip grabbing and ripping flesh from their fingers because they were too lazy to turn off the machine and use pliers. i have seen quite a few accidents from people not using their head or being too lazy to do things properly. i dont want to read where someone gets a knife stuck in them from using a contraption thats is nothing but dangerous.
 
The drill press accident, reminds me of an incident at work back in the 1980's. We had a guy who decided to sand down a pool cue tip by placing it in the drill press while using steel wool freehand to sand the spinning pool cue tip.

Before anyone could yell 'stop don't no no' the steel wool snaged on the spinning pool cue and just about cut the last couple of his finger off.

There was blood all over the place, and the man was off work for a long time, and his finger was neve the same after that.
 
Now this one is another one of these 'save money tactics' that turned out real bad.

I was on our vollunteer fire dept when we had a call for a garage fire.

We put out the fire before the structure was fully involved but it was still a total loss.

The garage was well built, with a full workshop full of expensive tools and the pickup truck was brand new.

However, this guy wanted to save money by building a chimney for his garage woodstove out of coffee cans. He cut the bottoms out and stacked them together making a chimney- all makeshift.

The fire had originated in this homemade stack due to overheating from creosote, which fell apart and caused the fire to spread. Anyways when the report was filed and after his insurance adjuster was done his policy was cancelled and not one penny paid out. - How's that for saving money.
 
Now this one is another one of these 'save money tactics' that turned out real bad.

I was on our vollunteer fire dept when we had a call for a garage fire.

We put out the fire before the structure was fully involved but it was still a total loss.

The garage was well built, with a full workshop full of expensive tools and the pickup truck was brand new.

However, this guy wanted to save money by building a chimney for his garage woodstove out of coffee cans. He cut the bottoms out and stacked them together making a chimney- all makeshift.

The fire had originated in this homemade stack due to overheating from creosote, which fell apart and caused the fire to spread. Anyways when the report was filed and after his insurance adjuster was done his policy was cancelled and not one penny paid out. - How's that for saving money.

Now that is pure irony :foot:
 
And is that alcohol I see involved in the background?

I must say it is very reassuring to know that the net nannies are so vigilant :rolleyes: That being my mug in the picture I swear that I was perfectly sober during that ever-so-reckless moment. I did have a beer or two the night before but made sure that I packed all my knives away before relaxing around the camp fire with a couple of drinks.
 
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" I must say it is very reassuring to know that the net nannies are so vigilant". and this being said by a guy, being barefooted and bending a knife that could have possibly broke at any time :rolleyes:
 
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