Atwood Prybaby - should I get S30V or titanium?

On some forums this type of behaviour would have resulted in banning long before this. Personal attacks have no place here and are the act of total cowardice.

MM, you are an energy stealer and a very unpleasant person. I would never in my wildest dreams go on a public forum and attack someone's products in such a manner. It is very disrespectful and you should be ashamed of yourself.
 
Peter Atwood said:
MM, you are an energy stealer and a very unpleasant person. I would never in my wildest dreams go on a public forum and attack someone's products in such a manner. It is very disrespectful and you should be ashamed of yourself.
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One also wonders what MM hopes to accomplish. the people frequenting these forums are not naive--some of us know a considerable amount about knives and pocket tools--and yet we still puchase prybabies. Maybe we feel that we have received adequate value for our money, and do not need to be educated by someone like MM.
 
What??? You mean the people who buy Peter's Prybabies already knew there are cheaper prybars and bottle openers on the market??? :eek:

I wonder if the people who buy Peter's knives know there are cheaper knives for sale on television infomercials.... :confused:
 
Peter, did you hack on MM's lady/mom or something? He sure has the daggers out for you. Thankfully, the inexpensive kind, so he's more likely to cut himself when the lock breaks:rolleyes:
MM, when you put something like a spanner as an alternative, it shows your lack of knowledge. If you were happening to be in need of uncoupling a few joints of fire hose, you would find it useful....
 
There is always going to be competition out there guys. Pointing it out is not something I have much of a problem with whether it be from MM or anyone else. Honestly some of the posts of the other tools were interesting to see. I think some take it to be picking or poking spears at Mr. Atwood though due to the shear volume that can be interpretted as an attack to some extent.

I don't think it is very fair to the original author (TroutTamer) of the first post and his/her questions, nor to Mr. Atwood to contiune derailing the thread with such petty arguements off of the topic though.

Stop feeding the fire and let that die so the original question, long forgotten can be addressed once again. Please!

I see nothing wrong with using a small tool like this in S30V if that is what the maker chooses to use. The fact that he could probably offer the same thing in AUS6 or high carbon steel with just as good or better results, toughness and usefullness is irrelevant since it isn't offered that way. The choices are S30V or Titanium for the purposes of this discussion.

As for the titanium vs S30V. Well, in some respects I can see where the inkling to use a scratch resistant steel would be preferrred here, particularly if someone is going to buy one of these prying tools and then complain to Mr. Atwood about it when they scratch it using it. DAH!:jerkit:

I'd probably be fine with the titanium one personally and the color option from anodizing it makes it more attractive to me. Fixing any dings to the edge is simple enough to do even for a guy thats all thumbs really.

I don't think you will be likely to break either of these being that they are so small.

Also, and lastly, many people have the idea that titanium is harder than steel. This is probably from the anodizing literature out there and statements about the layer coated over the titanium being near ceramic in hardness. The fact is the metal itself hovers between 39Rc and 45Rc on most pieces.

STR
 
What a fuzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I have a prybaby XL in S30V (and a booger) and I carry it every day using it for the prying tasks, open beerbottles and to play with. It fits the hand very nice so it's nice to fondle it around when calling, thinking, reading and so on. It's just a very nice little tool for every day little tasks, as beeing a site-engineer in roadconstruction. For the heavy stuff I get my toolbox from the garage or from the back of the car.

I like this tool for sparing my nails, my car-keys (I used before for prying/scraping), my knife and for replacing my Aluminium bottleoper I worn out after 10 years on my keychain. But then again in the Netherlands is it not very likely to get in a post atomic war kind of scene where I have to survive with the things on my body, so I'm spoiled by that surroundings.

So guys give it a rest and enjoy this little big tool!!

Chapeau mister Atwood for this masterpiece!!

Marthijn
 
STR said:
There is always going to be competition out there guys. Pointing it out is not something I have much of a problem with whether it be from MM or anyone else. Honestly some of the posts of the other tools were interesting to see. I think some take it to be picking or poking spears at Mr. Atwood though due to the shear volume that can be interpretted as an attack to some extent.

I don't think it is very fair to the original author (TroutTamer) of the first post and his/her questions, nor to Mr. Atwood to contiune derailing the thread with such petty arguements off of the topic though.

I don't think you will be likely to break either of these being that they are so small.

Also, and lastly, many people have the idea that titanium is harder than steel. This is probably from the anodizing literature out there and statements about the layer coated over the titanium being near ceramic in hardness. The fact is the metal itself hovers between 39Rc and 45Rc on most pieces.

STR
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As I said above, I purchased a PryBaby from Peter at Blade last year. He is a very cool person, unassuming, and laid back, with a creative mind, and a wish to innovate. Right now, with the small tools that he makes, he has no competition.

I can't believe that Mumbles has not been banned yet. That makes me sad, because he didn't contribute very much to this thread, except make a bunch of people get hostile, and display his ignorance about this tool.

I own the Stanley Wonderbar II, the PocketWrench, and about 1/2 of the other items that Mumbles posted about. I think long and hard about the tools that I buy, and more seriously about the tools that I carry.

The PryBaby sits on my keychain, along with a pair of SliverGrippers from A.G. Russell and a kangaroo "knocker" from Cousin Jack. The keychain is neither particularly bulky or heavy. The PryBaby is flat, so it nests between keys without skewing the operation of locks, and does not scratch anything because most of the exposed edges are deburred (the stamped out Pocket Wrench II was in need of a SERIOUS deburring with a cork belt/scotchbrite belt).

My S30V PryBaby is 5/32" thick, by 2 7/8" long, by 31/32" wide. I have opened many bottles with it, pulled staples, pulled 2 nails, tightened and loosened about 50 screws, found it to be excellent at cutting/stripping insulation on wire up to single strand 12 ga. I have dropped my keys about 100 times in the last year, on tile, wood, and cement, and have not had any chipping or deformation of the tool. I have lightly polished out the beadblasting with a ScotchBrite belt, because the resulting finish pleased me more.

I would and will buy more, and think that for a hand crafted product, it is an excellent bargain. I have friends who hand craft damascus wine cork removers that start at $500.00, and just like the PryBaby, these are not for everybody.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
the funny thing is how much business these threads are giving Mr. Atwood... they prompted me to order a s30v Prybaby (and a couple Pocketwrenches)

what is the kangaroo "knocker" thing? i couldn't find it on google...
 
He is a very cool person, unassuming, and laid back, with a creative mind, and a wish to innovate.
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A small slipjoint for the pocket, a SAK for the toolkit, maybe a fixed blade or two for the kitchen. That's all the knives I need.

What Peter does is what makes this hobby worth pursuing: the knives, the toys, and the conversation here.
 
yermom said:
the funny thing is how much business these threads are giving Mr. Atwood... they prompted me to order a s30v Prybaby (and a couple Pocketwrenches)

what is the kangaroo "knocker" thing? i couldn't find it on google...
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Only mine is custom made of kangaroo hide, which is very supple, and it is longer.




Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I wonder if MM only uses paper plates, and plastic forks, since buying real plates and forks would be out of the question. A plastic fork will work, why use one made out of steel.
Just wondering.
I'm happy with my ti-Prybaby. :)




Blades
 
I am sure Peter Atwood does not need my support, he sure as hell did not solicit it. However, I have had one of his S30-v Pry baby's for several years and it is always with me, along with an Arc flashlight and a Benchmite folder on my key chain.
Other than the normal pocket scratches from carrying, I can see no changes in it. Still sharp and still not bent.
I would not pretend to say that his product would be my choice for prying huge objects, there are better tools for that, nor would it be the most efficient bottle opener a person could own, but in my experience it is a useful tool for small leveraging tasks and a bottle opener that has never failed to open a bottle of beer for me. What else, may I ask, would you want from it?
It passes the best test for me I know of......... "If I lost it, I would buy another one just like it."
 
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