B8 vs. TG (& other 7-8" blades)

Ulf Krogstad · Nov 14, 2016

jsnell said:
B8 if you want to do anything in the woods.

TG if you want to.......fondle while watching a certain TV show?

True, TG'S a great looking knife, but don't like way feels in all hand grips and grind on LB is way too thick without regrinding, for me. Heard original TG is worse. Guards get in the way alot when using. Never had b8. Loved the 3/16 Ratweiler and will end up with one again, HR in 3/16 is also on the list. The BG Hellrazor felt grind was to thick. Felt great in every grip though and better looking blade than TG imo. I'd even take a Regulator LE over a TGLB.

Make the guards smaller on TG and make .20" thick with swedge, similar to one on bottom in pic by 360, I'd be interested again.

Stump Buster · Nov 14, 2016

tinfoil hat timmy said:
I was in love with the b8 until I tried using the choil. Too darned fat. Hurt my fingers.

Hence the call for a choiless version.... which would be PERFECT!

evltcat · Nov 14, 2016

You're pretty well covered in that size range with the B8 LE & HR.
You could go up a size with the TGP

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

Lol y'all are starting to get pretty particular,

My 2 cents:

1. Each Busse model fills a perfect niche of some kind
2. The TG, TGLB, etc. is a fantastic knife. Given a proper re profiling job and solid sharpening --- it makes for a fantastic Jack of All Trades knife.
3. Basic 8 L.E is pure awesome. Like all Res-C handled blades -- it's weight to performance ratio is unbeatable. However, it will get spanked by the TGLB in chopping and batoning
4. The Sarsquatch deserves special consideration --- as does the HHFSH and the HOGFSH
5. You really can't go wrong with any of the options

legaleagle · Nov 14, 2016

I will put my B8 up against a TGLB chopping anyday

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

While not possible to fully control --- but, assuming the edge geometry and shoulder thickness being equal:

1. The best pocket Axe in the 6 inch blade range ---- FAT ASH-1 (Approximately 21 oz)
2. The best pocket Axe in the 7 inch range ---- SHe2/Ratweiler CG/Chopweiler/TG (Approximately 21-22 oz)
3. The best pocket Axe in the 8 inch range ---- NMSFNO/HHFSH/HOGFSH (Approx 21 oz, 23-24 oz, 24-25 oz)

Im sure there are others --- but these are the king choppers that I'm aware of in their respective class

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

legaleagle said:
I will put my B8 up against a TGLB chopping anyday

I will take you up on that challenge --- it won't be that close

inkynate · Nov 14, 2016

I'd like to see that challenge, I'm skeptical about the TGLB besting a B8 in chopping as well.

It seems like the B8 would have more weight in the blade, more forward weight, and more length. The TGLB does have thicker stock, but it seems like the huge fuller would make that a wash. What am I missing?

TommyGun56 · Nov 14, 2016

I would agree to disagree, No Sarsquatch or SFNO is 7 inch Range? Blasphemy!!!

Rob_Mob said:
While not possible to fully control --- but, assuming the edge geometry and shoulder thickness being equal:

1. The best pocket Axe in the 6 inch blade range ---- FAT ASH-1 (Approximately 21 oz)
2. The best pocket Axe in the 7 inch range ---- SHe2/Ratweiler CG/Chopweiler/TG (Approximately 21-22 oz)
3. The best pocket Axe in the 8 inch range ---- NMSFNO/HHFSH/HOGFSH (Approx 21 oz, 23-24 oz, 24-25 oz)

Im sure there are others --- but these are the king choppers that I'm aware of in their respective class

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

inkynate said:
I'd like to see that challenge, I'm skeptical about the TGLB besting a B8 in chopping as well.

It seems like the B8 would have more weight in the blade, more forward weight, and more length. The TGLB does have thicker stock, but it seems like the huge fuller would make that a wash. What am I missing?

I have a B8 L.E and a TGLB ---- both have a 19 degree (38 degree inclusive) edge with a mirror polish. The TGLB is noticeably heavier and produces more chopping power. The B8 is no slouch by any means --- but even the SYKCO 711 and the Scrap Yard Regulator out chop it.

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

TommyGun56 said:
I would agree to disagree, No Sarsquatch or SFNO is 7 inch Range? Blasphemy!!!

Tommy my friend!! I absolutely adore the Sarsquatch and definitely respect the SFNO --- I definitely should have included the Sarsquatch and the SFNO.

Stump Buster · Nov 14, 2016

Rob_Mob said:
... but even the SYKCO 711 and the Scrap Yard Regulator out chop it.

Hence the call for a Saber Ground choiless version of the B8... which would be EXTRA PERFECT!!!

Just sayin'.

inkynate · Nov 14, 2016

Rob_Mob said:
The TGLB is noticeably heavier and produces more chopping power. The B8 is no slouch by any means --- but even the SYKCO 711 and the Scrap Yard Regulator out chop it.

Thank you for the perspective. I didn't expect the weight difference to be as much as it is. The B8LE is a little over 12oz and the TGLB appears to be ~15-16oz. (The BGHR is ~17.)

inkynate · Nov 14, 2016

Stump Buster said:
Hence the call for a Saber Ground choiless version of the B8... which would be EXTRA PERFECT!!!

Just sayin'.

You're making a lot of sense right now my friend. :thumbup:

Can't we get a thread going or something to make that happen?

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

inkynate said:
Thank you for the perspective. I didn't expect the weight difference to be as much as it is. The B8LE is a little over 12oz and the TGLB appears to be ~15-16oz. (The BGHR is ~17.)

Sure thing brother ---- and yes indeed --- my TGLB is 17 oz --- the Team Gemnini (Non-LB) is 21 oz --- so it is a big difference

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

Stump Buster said:
Hence the call for a Saber Ground choiless version of the B8... which would be EXTRA PERFECT!!!

Just sayin'.

If only there was someone out there who could on a daily basis maintain the interest while cleverly riding the tail of another thread

jsnell · Nov 14, 2016

Rob_Mob said:
While not possible to fully control --- but, assuming the edge geometry and shoulder thickness being equal:

1. The best pocket Axe in the 6 inch blade range ---- FAT ASH-1 (Approximately 21 oz)
2. The best pocket Axe in the 7 inch range ---- SHe2/Ratweiler CG/Chopweiler/TG (Approximately 21-22 oz)
3. The best pocket Axe in the 8 inch range ---- NMSFNO/HHFSH/HOGFSH (Approx 21 oz, 23-24 oz, 24-25 oz)

Im sure there are others --- but these are the king choppers that I'm aware of in their respective class

No way a TG hangs with a SHe2 or Ratweiler, or a 711 for that matter. I am, admittedly, not a TG fan, but that's being objective.

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

jsnell said:
No way a TG hangs with a SHe2 or Ratweiler, or a 711 for that matter. I am, admittedly, not a TG fan, but that's being objective.

So a TG (not TGLB) --- weighs approximately 21 oz. It's approximately .25 inches thick. It's between 7-8 inches (closer to 8). The TG definitely should hang with the SHe2 and the Ratweiler -- while I do acknowledge that the SHe2 and the Ratweiler should chop a little better.

A SYKCO 711 weighs considerably less --- it can't match its chopping power.

jsnell · Nov 14, 2016

It's all about balance, brother[emoji1]The TG, and all of its variants, was designed as a fighter. Can it be pressed in to service as a woods blade? Sure. But it's not ideal. I'm not gonna argue geometry and physics with ya, but I've used them all and that's what my hands and eyes tell me. YMMV.

Rob_Mob · Nov 14, 2016

jsnell said:
It's all about balance, brother[emoji1]The TG, and all of its variants, was designed as a fighter. Can it be pressed in to service as a woods blade? Sure. But it's not ideal. I'm not gonna argue geometry and physics with ya, but I've used them all and that's what my hands and eyes tell me. YMMV.

No of course brother --- actually user testimony is super crucial. So I appreciate your take on it. I will test out my TGLB against my Scrap Yard Regulator to double check to see if I've missed something. I'll fill everyone in once I do. Cheers!