Back from our "Bare Bones" Trip(Pic Heavy)

That trip looks like a lot of fun, and a big turnout to boot :thumbup:

We need something like that in Texas, I know there's a ton of members around here somewhere :D
 
Most of my photos mirror Jerry's so I won't repost.

When this trip was first brought up, the weather was going to be cold and I was thinking about taking a jacket that had pockets for additional base layers, being used to more gear and extra warmth. After much ribbing, and warmer forecasts, I gladly relented.

I'm very glad that I kept going through gear when I packed for this and said, "This is ridiculous, get rid of it."

This sort of trip does make you appreciate certain things, timber was large and sparse. Cutting tools were restricted to folders only. We all decided that an axe or hatchet would have been very nice, but a saw would have probably gotten more of a workout.

Fire lighting was restricted to spark only, but was no problem.

Even though the weather was mild and the rain held off, a front moved through Saturday night that kept the wind up. More on that later.

I wound up bundling up a wool commando sweater with a fleece cap rolled up and lashed it on to the side of my water bottle kit.

My gear:
A Rolly Polly contained
AMK Thermo Lite 2 bivvy bag, AMK Heat sheet, 550 cord, poncho, surplus wool glove liners

Maxpedition 12X5 outside pocket
Grill/fireplace fire startersX4, spork, Small FAK (Burn Gel, Ointment, Band Aids, Lip Balm, Eye Drops, Toilet Paper, Nitrile Gloves), Ultimate Survival Technologies Sparkie (not heavy duty, but one-handed operation).

Maxpedition 12X5 main pocket
bottom up - food (mash potatoes, oatmeal, summer sausage, coffee, tea, sugar, life raft bar), Guyot bottle, GSI cup inverted over bottle containing SS wire line pot hanger, small Guyot squishy bowl.

Maxpedition H3 waist pouch
modded PSK - foil, fishing line, hooks, sinkers, sewing needles, aqua mira tabs, tinder quick, signal mirror, photon, Fenix light, whistle, Reynolds oven bag, compass, jute twine, Gerber knife sharpener, a misch metal ferro rod (one of those rods that contain magnesium - harder than an LMF, not sure I like it since it doesn't let you get right down to the tinder, you have to strike it faster than a normal ferro rod).

My knife was an old Cold Steel Voyager.

I wore Cabela's Canvas Boulder Canyon pants, Smart Wool T, REI button down, and a Tilley hat, Wigwam wool socks with liners, and ex Officio undies, and Danner Agitator boots.

We hiked in a couple miles on the Appalachian Trail, at one of the places were it meets the Pine Grove Furnace State Park in Pennsylvania. I haven't been to that part of the state before (outside of Carlisle) and I must make it a point to get back there.

I set my shelter away from the others a bit, which made it a challenge to locate in the dark. I also oriented it wrong. I made a nice little A-frame that was low to the ground, with almost 18" of leaf litter under my bivvy. Here with the one side up.

I figured the wind would change and didn't count on the front coming in later that night. I made myself a nice little wind tunnel and woke up shivering several times.

As you saw in Jerry's photo, the water and cooking gear was fairly standard with this group, lots of Guyots, Kleen Canteens, GSI cups, Titanium cook pots. One did have a Nalgene canteen with canteen cup/stove that he used. A couple others used Aqua Mira straws.

Since I was farther away, I didn't hear when the group moved back to the fire at around 3 am or so, else I would've probably joined them.

I'm not convinced that the Thermo Lite bivvy either is or is not worth it, I recognize I improperly setup my shelter and chose not to correct it later. I'll have to try the bivvy some more to see if it stays or goes. There was some condensation, but not what I would consider a terrible amount (there is a foot vent that I did not open) - it was also damp out, to compound the issue.

I spilled part of my boiling water trying to fish it out of the fire, since there were several people trying to do the same. Clumsy while trying to lasso the bottle with my SS leader line - it had slipped off before when I set it in the coals.

On Sunday, we hiked the Pole Steeple blue blaze trail. Kinda steep in parts, kinda muddy in parts, but worth for the view. At the top was a granite rock with three ways up, one climbing, one rock scrambling, and one walking around.

When we got back to the parking lot, we met with a DNR officer who was trying to convince some straggling Canadian Geese to move on. We straggled on over to a deli, had lunch and didn't really want to go home ourselves!

Great trip! I learned a lot and am looking forward to doing this sort of thing again. A special thanks to the guys that cracked the egg and got it going.
 
The gear I took worked out fine. Max bottle holder and two pouches. Like hayseed said, the lack of fixed blades and saws made it tough. I've got to have my big blade, saw and axe when I hit the timber. Especially when fire wood is a must. Also if I would have had my sleeping bag, it would have made the trip more comfortable. That said it was still an awesome time.
Scott
 
Looks like a lot of fun. I ought to try it sometime. It might make me reconsider some gear I think of as indispensible.
 
Looks like you guys had a blast. I am doing something similar to this in the summer, except at a campground because I have to go with my mom and dad. They didn't exactly say that I had to go, but they told me that they knew how much I was interested. I told them if I could stay out of the tent, and bring as little as I wanted, I would go. (Because I know if I need something, they aren't far away.)
 
Likes like a great trip guys and I really appreciate the details of gear reports - what worked and what didn't! So nobody tried to snuggle up to Scott's beard????
 
Looks like an awesome time! Any entries in the shelter contest? ;)

I did a "UNO" (Unexpected Night Out) with my hunting partner last March. In addition to my SilShelter and Thermo-Lite Bivvy, I brought one of those foil windshield shades to use as a pad. Not the best idea I ever had! I froze, but at least the shelter kept me dry. He used a coated nlyon tarp in a A-Frame configuration and "slept" on a stack of wet fern branches - we couldn't strip cedar branches where we were camped.

We've been meaning to do it again but haven't been able to get our schedules to click. We were talking about just a fanny pack, so it is pretty close to your experiment.

Next time I will try out my SilPoncho and my new Superlight Bivy (Thanks for the tip, High Desret Walker!). I'm looking at an ultra-ultra-lightweight down sleeping bag so that may come as well.

-- FLIX
 
I try to do one of those every year. Usually it's by myself with my wife and a couple friends waiting for me at a "base camp".
I can't wait for this year's trip, one of my buddies is going with me (or so he says) and I think my nephew wants to go.

...they're usually pretty bad for flaking out at the last minute, though.
 
Yeah, I've had that happen a few times as well. flippin flakers!
 
I carried a Spyderco Police 3 folder and a Chinook. They did quite well and I even was able to cut down a pretty big hickory with one. The AMK Survival Sheet I got was a life saver.

I slept between it and the ground, and didn’t have a need to light the fire on my elaborate firewall I built. I wish the sheet was bigger, and will invest in a larger one next time to suit my needs. I was very surprised by the moisture build up as well.

Other items that I took included a Fenix LD20 and cordage, plus a misch metal and a normal ferro rod, some Vaseline cotton balls, and a GSI mug cup to go with the guyot canteen.

In my own warped opinion, the most impressive tool on the trip had to be the Leatherman pruners that Tim Stetzer brought. They were handy as ever, and made me seriously think about purchasing some. I wish the blade was not serrated at least in that situation, but the more I think about it, in a normal situation I would hardly ever use that blade anyway as there is a fixed blade that accompanies me. Definitely a tool to consider though, for the casual clips for the camp craft.
 
Great post and photos!! Pole's Steeple is one of my favorite hikes (I live just outside of Harrisburg). I really like the idea of practicing minimal overnights in a group, makes an uncomfortable night a little more fun. Thanks for posting.
 
Thanks for the report. Bumping this thread just to ask something further about a point made on the lack of fixed blades, saws and axes making it tougher (since the rule was to bring folders).

Q1: Were the folder too small or fragile to get the needed amount of wood?

Q2: Was the pocket bushman not beefy enough to do the job?

Q3: Would bringing a small axe have been a better choice, in your opinion? Is it a better choice for this particular terrain, or would you say this applies in general (ex. general survival kit material)?

Thanks in advance for any replies...
 
Very cool trip guys! We should do something like that up here. Looks like a lot of fun!


We did a very similar trip in the Boy Scouts for our Wilderness Survival Merit Badge. But, in our case, we had to build a debris shelter and sleep in it. It wasn't what I call a comfortable night. Picture the S. Louisianna heat, and bugs, and rain. I don't think I slept at all, and nobody got a fire lit either.

At least we weren't cold.

Man Fiddleback I would have traded you for my experience getting that merit badge. We were on the oregon coast and it was pouring down rain, probably about 55 degrees out. This was at summer camp :eek: we weren't allowed to take off til just before dark so most of us ended up "sleeping" in our emergency blankets just off the beach.
 
Thanks for the report. Bumping this thread just to ask something further about a point made on the lack of fixed blades, saws and axes making it tougher (since the rule was to bring folders).

Q1: Were the folder too small or fragile to get the needed amount of wood?

Q2: Was the pocket bushman not beefy enough to do the job?

Q3: Would bringing a small axe have been a better choice, in your opinion? Is it a better choice for this particular terrain, or would you say this applies in general (ex. general survival kit material)?

Thanks in advance for any replies...

I can answer that.
Q1: IMO, It's foolish to head into the timber without the proper tools for firewood gathering. I normally carry a large fixed blade, saw and an axe.

Q1: The Pocket Bushman worked better then a normal folder but is not a replacement for a fixed blade. The steel used for the blade is pretty good.

Q3: The available wood where we were at was seasoned and hard. A full sized axe would have been better but a saw was actually the most missed tool.

To sum it up, a folder is a secondary cutting tool and really isn't necessary. Your fixed blade, don't leave home without it.
Scott
 
What size Snowpeak fits over a guyot bottle...? Sounds like such a cool setup I want one!

I've got the Snow Peak Mini Solo cook set. The lid goes on the bottom, then the small cup then the larger cup. The 38 oz. Guyot slides into the SP large cup then a GSI cup sits on top of the Guyot. This all fits into the Max 10x4 bottle holder.
Scott
 
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