Backpacking RC-4

I think it's a great to be able to live minimally off the land, bring the least amount possible and leave no trace of yourself. I've taken wilderness survival courses and am very comfortable with my skills should have to call upon them in a true crisis/survival situation.

Having said that, in a true emergency there will be many issues to deal with. I will gladly sacrifice a few extra ounces and have a knife that can be used to quickly get a task completed. In a survival situation, time can mean the difference between life and death and nothing is as important as starting and keeping a fire going.
 
Howdy first post here but have been a lurker for a long time. This post literally drove me from my silent peaceful state.

First, anyone who goes into the woods whether it's a day hike, 2-3 day hike, canoe trip, or mountain biking excursion where you are in a remote area (no cell service) with nothing more than a small pocket knife is an idiot. These are the type of people who take everything for granted and throw caution to the wind. They are also the same type of people who rely heavily on rescue teams year after year when mother nature takes a dump on their little REI adventure.

The fact is that you may be able to get by with a pocket knife in ideal situations. Meaning that the weather is good, there are no injuries, the rest of your gear remains intact, and there are no animal attacks. However, you can never predict that every outing is going to run smoothly. All it takes is one incident and you are going to wish you had brought something more substantial.

What would happen if you were out somewhere and suddenly you were caught in a storm, or your canoe tipped and you needed to make a shelter and fire quickly to prevent hypothermia? This is a real threat and kills people every year. Do you think a pocket knife will be able to perform these tasks fast enough to save your life or a friends or a loved one? What about an animal attack? A small blade would just piss off a bear, cougar, wild boar, or dog.

Now most people think in these situations that it could never happen to them and they play the odds. However, most people who survive a traumatic experience in the woods thought the same thing. The reason for bringing a larger fixed bladed knife into the woods with you isn't necessarily because you need it for every task - it's because you need it for those critical tasks when your life depends on it.

Anytime I go into the woods for any reason, I carry a RD-6 Signature ( 18 oz. 3/8” blade), Esee-4, a Leatherman and a Laplander saw. I also carry a small sidearm that shoots 45 lc and .410 shells as I do live in Black Bear/Cougar area. Added to this is an extensive first aid/ trauma kit, fire steel, cordage, Army Poncho and a container to boil water. This kit goes with me everywhere – every time - even if it's a day trip – no exceptions!!! Anything else I pack is considered a "luxury item". The minumum I bring is 3 knives and I sometimes will bring a fourth if I'm with someone who does not have a large blade in case we get separated.



Second, it is simply irresponsible for a group leader to advocate this nonsense. Not only is he teaching kids not to be prepared but he is also putting their lives at risk. But hey if you want to be a sheep and walk through the woods where wolves feed - be my guest.
 
To some degree I understand the minimalist approach to the outdoors. That said, human beings are not an unnatural intrusion into the wilderness. We are part of the fauna on this little rock we call home.

I would have to agree that engaging in a multi-day backpacking trip is the epitome of reasons to have a sturdy knife along. I have a Victorinox Hunter that I carry every day, but I have no delusions that it would get me out of a tough spot in the woods.

The environmentalist culture decries our intrusion into the 'natural' world, and demands we carry our poop out in a bag (Yuck). I think it's more than ridiculous. Thankfully there are no laws that demand the same, or that we walk into the woods without some basic tools.

I'm a much bigger fan of the conservation mindset that says we need to be good stewards over the natural world, so we'll always have it. That doesn't mean going unprepared into the woods or pretending that we don't belong there.

Minimal tool Kit for 3-days in the woods = Small Folding Limb Saw + Multi-tool + Medium-sized Fixed-Blade (ESEE3/4 or Benchmade Rant). This amounts to a couple of pounds of weight that I will gladly haul around for three days. If you need to leave something behind, I would probably make it the multi-tool, just leave it in the truck at the trailhead. Wear your knife on your belt, that way that bit of weight doesn't pull on your back.

SP
 
I have a Leatherman and it's a fine knife. I've always considered it a knife of convenience for car camping rather than a tool that will allow me to survive in a desperate situation. I, personally, would never choose it over a serious fixed-blade knife, such as any RC3-RC6, if hiking or backpacking.

YMMV.
 
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