Bad experience with eowyn873

[slorenzo]

I would like to share my experience with eowyn873

I personally will not be ever be doing any business with him. My purpose in starting this thread is to share my experience/observations in order for others to make an informed decision on whether or not they want to conduct business with him.

First off before we get to whether eowyn873 is a dishonorable member let me first establish that he should not by any means be a gold member. According to the rules set by this forum he should operating as a dealer. He habitually snatches up knives and sells them for a profit as soon as he receives them. I am pretty sure this makes him a "flipper":

"DEALER / MATERIALS PROVIDER - Dealers are defined as anyone who purchases at wholesale pricing, or purchases items with the intent to resell (flipping). Other terms for dealers include purveyor, broker, reseller, etc. Materials Providers offer raw materials such as steel, handle materials, or other items related to knifemaking in general as typical stock for sale to the forum members or to the general public via their own store front or website."

Now on to my experience.

About a month ago I spoke to eowyn about a trade for a mini ritter I had listed on the forums. He pmed me then emailed me at a feverish pace until we had agreed to trade for a small sebenza 21 he had sent to the crk spa. After that he simply ignored all further emails.

Here is his PM agreeing to trade the sebenza:

03-05-2015, 06:36 PM eowyn873's Avatar eowyn873 eowyn873 is online now
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I have a small Sebenza 21 I sent for Spa treatment if you like and can wait for it to come back. The one you were inquiring about with minor scratch on the blade, I think you've seen the pictures of it.

I then replied that I was not interested in adding any cash to the deal. He replied saying he would be willing to do a straight trade. I agreed. After this he did not return any more emails for the next month. Today the Sebenza that was at the spa went up for sale. I emailed him and pmed him, and he did not reply. Yet meanwhile, he bought a knife and was able to respond to other members. He figured if he just ignored the problem it would go away. I then posted on his sale thread which I realize in retrospect is the wrong thing to do. Hence why I started this thread. His response on his thread was deleted but I was able to save it. IMO it speaks volumes as to what kind of seller he is:



"Quote Originally Posted by slorenzo View Post
No response even though eowyn has been online buying knives. I am no longer interested in trading, but I would beware of this sellers shady practices.

I am online 24 hrs a day because I use Tapatalk, I can buy anything that I want anytime, I receive tons of emails everyday not just from you slorenzo, I am not able to answer all of them all at the same time, there are even emails that I have not answered at all. You can not be the center of my Universe slorenzo, I have a very busy life outside Blade Forums. I drive 1 1/2 hours from my home to work vice versa and sometimes more than that. I have to cook dinner for the family when I get home, I have to prepare for my job for the following day, "Life is very busy" slorenzo! I have to work my ass to feed my family and addiction with knives, I do not stick my face on the computer all day, I do not rely on the government to feed my family and my hobby! Yes, I bought a knife because I can not pass a great price, and that is my right and you can not take that away from me.

You can not wait for my reply so you take it here on my sales thread? What is your agenda? Ruin my reputation? Tarnish my name and gaining sympathy ? For what? For not receiving any reply from me? Have you seen any changes on my post? Two of them were already sold but i have not updated it yet. Have I received any complaint from the buyers why it has not updated yet? NONE! Why? Because they are "Matured people". They know that people has life outside Blade Forums and that comes first. GROW UP!

Quote Originally Posted by pwrdbycotn View Post
I have had a bad experience with this seller as well. In my case he was buying knives from me. Long story short, I have blocked him and will not do business with him again.

You got mad at me for not leaving you feedback? There are other transactions that I have not left feedback still, and there are others who have not left feedback from me but I am fine with it. I never accused you of lying and trying to steal money from me, I never said that. I can post our text messages. It is just a "mis-communication", I already tried explaining it to you but you would not accept it and I will no longer force the issue.

I'll be closing this thread and will create new one. Let us all grow up."

He simply does not make sense. He is claiming he does't have time to respond, yet that is not even my problem with him. My problem is that he posted a knife for sale that he already agreed to trade. I never claimed to be the center of the universe, nor do I care what his schedule is. If he is going to keep on buying and reselling for a profit he should be a dealer. If he keeps up this sort of attitude I think he should be banned. He is irrational, his comments are illogical. What does the government have to do with anything? How can he seriously tell me to grow up while he acts like a child?

I know several people who have had similar experiences with eowyn873, hopefully they will chime in and share their stories.

Make your own conclusions, however I would and am going to stay far away from this member.

 

[pwrdbycotn]

Slorenzo and others:

As was indicated in this first post, I responded in the for sale thread (wrong place, I know) about also having trouble with eowyn873. I have had some of the same experiences that Slorenzo has had. When I posted some Sebenzas for sale Eowyn began to text me at such a rate that it was nearly impossible to do anything else or pay attention to anyone else that was wanting to buy. I ended up making a deal with eowyn for two of the sebenzas that I had listed. For whatever reason, when I shipped them, USPS tracking took over 24 hours to show that the package was moving. Eowyn began to text me and ask me if they were shipped. I told him that they were and I even called the post office to check on it. They informed me that the slow tracking was normal and not to be alarmed. I had also received a notice of pick-up via email from USPS showing that at 3 pm the package had been picked up (I had scheduled for a pick up). I took a picture of the email and sent it to eowyn and he told me that it was not a confirmation of pick-up, but rather a scheduled pick up. I offered to video myself opening my email and showing the entire email to him so that he would believe me. He simply stated that if I had shipped them they would show tracking. So at this point he is accusing me of not shipping his knives. A few hours later the tracking began to show up and proved what I had been telling him all along. I have the screen shots of the text messages to prove all of this.

He received the knives and thanked me for them and stated that he was happy with them. A few days later he posted both of them for sale (FLIPPING!) I told him that I noticed that he was flipping them and that I would appreciate if he would provide positive feedback for me since I had clearly shipped the knives when I said I would and the knives were in the condition that I said they were. He did not leave me feedback. Only tonight after seeing my response in his ad did he text me and say that he was simply too busy to leave feedback for me. He has plenty of time to buy low and sell high, but no time to provide feedback. Note, he left positive feedback for me tonight.

I wouldn't really care about not receiving feedback if he hadn't of accused me of not shipping his knives and then denying that the picture of the confirmation of delivery was real, which it was and I still have.

This was my interaction with him and I can prove it.

Like Slorenzo, I will be staying far away from this member. I also agree that he should have to have a dealer membership instead of gold or be banned altogether.

 

[wtlj]

I've had over 130+ dealings on BF with no problems until eowyn873 aka Emerson Suela came into my presence.
The last knife he purchased off of me was a CRK small P Sebenza...it was well described to him as a heavy user and many pics to follow the long description. I answered all of his questions to the best of my knowledge and sent more requested pics of the knife. When he received the knife and realized he couldn't flip it for a profit like the majority of his other deals he proceeded to call me a liar & demanded a refund! I accepted his return request even after he admitted to disassembling the knife. I made myself a promise to never deal with him again. I can tolerate being called a lot of things but a LIAR is not one of them!
Emerson, I completely understand you haven't broken any rules, at least on my deal however your BS finally caught up with you as deserved. I also suggest you don't even try and challenge me, I'm not stupid enough to make claims without material to back it up!
When Eowyn873 got called out tonight in his sale thread he immediately text me asking for forgiveness for calling me a liar and apologized for his actions. He stated he "wanted to have friends, lots of friends" well guess what; it's too late for that!
I've done my part on voicing my opinion & blocking this member, I can provide more info if need be. I won't be dealing with Emerson again!
On a positive note, BF is the best Online Forum I've had the pleasure of being a part of and I won't let this member ruin that for me!

 

[slorenzo]

I've had over 130+ dealings on BF with no problems until eowyn873 aka Emerson Suela came into my presence.
The last knife he purchased off of me was a CRK small P Sebenza...it was well described to him as a heavy user and many pics to follow the long description. I answered all of his questions to the best of my knowledge and sent more requested pics of the knife. When he received the knife and realized he couldn't flip it for a profit like the majority of his other deals he proceeded to call me a liar & demanded a refund! I accepted his return request even after he admitted to disassembling the knife. I made myself a promise to never deal with him again. I can tolerate being called a lot of things but a LIAR is not one of them!
Emerson, I completely understand you haven't broken any rules, at least on my deal however your BS finally caught up with you as deserved. I also suggest you don't even try and challenge me, I'm not stupid enough to make claims without material to back it up!
When Eowyn873 got called out tonight in his sale thread he immediately text me asking for forgiveness of calling me a liar and apologizing for his actions. He stated he "wanted to have friends, lots of friends" well guess what; it's too late for that!
I've done my part on voicing my opinion & blocking this member, I can provide more info if need be. I won't be dealing with Emerson again!
On a positive note, BF is the best Online Forum I've had the pleasure of being a part of and I won't let this member ruin that for me!

That is extremely nice of you to refund his money even after he took apart the knife. Another reason I like blade forums is because of members like wtlj!

Eowyn873 shouldn't even have the tenacity to ask for a refund if he knew the condition of the knife before receiving it. WTLJ went above and beyond just because he values having a spotless reputation. Eowyn873 claims he does not have time to reply to an email yet he apparently has time to barrage pwrdbycotn with messages, and the take apart and return wtlj's knife?
Sounds shady to me.

 

[KELAMA]

This thread, & your actions, are pathetic!

I could care less, what your issue with, eowyn873 is...the way the two of you newer member's crapped in his sales thread of all places, & your indignant, self righteous, cavalier attitude in doing so, makes your actions even worse. This is a blatant violation of BladeForum's policy!

You guys (slorenzo & pwrdbycotn), have been member's here for only one, & two months respectively, & you're already whining in the GBU.

As for my own personal interactions, with eowyn873: we have interacted quite often, & I find him to be a very nice guy, whom I've grown to respect, & like...

In one/two months, you new guys coming on here & trashing member's reputations with allegations like "flipper" & whatever crap you feel will help justify your stupid thread, is plain ridiculous.

How about we start a poll like this:

Will I ever do a business transaction with the very rude, unprofessional & immature member's, slorenzo & pwrdbycotn?

HELL NO!!!

GTFU!

Edit: What a coincidence! All 3 of the above member's, on my never to do business list

 

[slorenzo]

This thread, & your actions, are pathetic!

I could care less, what your issue with, eowyn873 is...the way the two of you newer member's crapped in his sales thread of all places, & your indignant, self righteous, cavalier attitude in doing so, makes your actions even worse. This is a blatant violation of BladeForum's policy!

You guys (slorenzo & pwrdbycotn), have been member's here for only one, & two months respectively, & you're already whining in the GBU.

As for my own personal interactions, with eowyn873: we have interacted quite often, & I find him to be a very nice guy, whom I've grown to respect, & like...

In one/two months, you new guys coming on here & trashing member's reputations with allegations like "flipper" & whatever crap you feel will help justify your stupid thread, is plain ridiculous.

How about we start a poll like this:

Will I ever do a business transaction with the very rude, unprofessional & immature member's, slorenzo & pwrdbycotn?

HELL NO!!!

GTFU!

Edit: What a coincidence! All 3 of the above member's, on my never to do business list

Your entitled to your opinions, but I do not understand how length of membership has anything to do with validity of concerns expressed.

1. Agreeing to a trade then posting said knife for sale is not behavior I think embodies a "great seller"
2. Taking apart a knife then demanding a refund is not fair to the seller. I think this is universally agreed upon.
3. His crass responses have been documented.
4. Your friend eowyn lodged a complain in the same amount of time when he started on blade forums http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1028669-Problem-Resolved?highlight=eowyn873 . He did so while jumping to conclusions and pissing off a bunch of people.
5. Allegations of flipping are not justifications they can be clearly documented. Knives he buys instantly end up for sale.
6. You sir are the only one that posted a rude, unprofessional, and immature response on this thread.

 

[spketch]

There is no need for a poll, that's what itrader feedback is for. Looks like Eowyn has 50 positives and 0 negatives so far there...
One of the positives is from me when I purchased a journeyman at a very fair price from him. It was a flawless deal and I'd be happy to do business with him again.

 

[KELAMA]

The difference between me, & you:

I've been a member here for a short while, however, I've never started a negative thread in the GBU towards another member; you on the other hand, just joined, crapped all over a reputable member's "SALES THREAD" (feel justified in doing so), & now have the dubious distinction, of starting stupid poll, trying your best to smear a good standing member's name...

Welcome to BladeForums! :thumbup:

 

[slorenzo]

There is no need for a poll, that's what itrader feedback is for. Looks like Eowyn has 50 positives and 0 negatives so far there...
One of the positives is from me when I purchased a journeyman at a very fair price from him. It was a flawless deal and I'd be happy to do business with him again.

I'm glad you had a pleasant interaction. I think it is important to hear all sides.

 

[slorenzo]

The difference between me, & you:

I've been a member here for a short while, however, I've never started a negative thread in the GBU towards another member; you on the other hand, just joined, crapped all over a reputable member's "SALES THREAD" (feel justified in doing so), & now have the dubious distinction, of starting stupid poll, trying your best to smear a good standing member's name...

Welcome to BladeForums! :thumbup:

I have apologized for my wrong doing in posting in his sales thread. That shouldn't negate my concerns. Like you said I am new, and I made a mistake. One I will not be making again. I was frustrated after emailing and pming him. Meanwhile I saw him purchasing other knives and replying to other members, I acted inappropriately. I never felt "justified". So, It is unforgivable for me to post in his thread, yet it is ok to behave in the way he eowyn has? (which has been documented)

I am not trying to smear, members here are smart enough to come to their own conclusions. I am glad all your transactions have gone flawlessly. That does not mean that those who have had an interaction that was not perfect are lesser than you. You should allow people to voice their concerns. If you are questioning evidence thats one thing, but you haven't offered up anything other than rudeness. Please refrain from doing so as that doesn't somehow magically validate your points.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

1. Interfering with an Exchange thread is a BFC violation.
2. Got a complaint about a deal? Post it in FEEDBACK, not in the Hall of Shame.
3. If you think a member should be a dealer, post about it in Tech Support. Mods don't read every thread.

Under ordinary circumstances, if a deal wasn't completed, it isn't a violation and doesn't rate a FEEDBACK thread. It definitely doesn't rate negative iTrader feedback.

 

[slorenzo]

1. Interfering with an Exchange thread is a BFC violation.
2. Got a complaint about a deal? Post it in FEEDBACK, not in the Hall of Shame.
3. If you think a member should be a dealer, post about it in Tech Support. Mods don't read every thread.

Under ordinary circumstances, if a deal wasn't completed, it isn't a violation and doesn't rate a FEEDBACK thread. It definitely doesn't rate negative iTrader feedback.

Thank you for clearing things up. So if a seller doesn't keep his word and the deal does not go through there is no recourse?

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Sure there's recourse. Don't deal with him again.

There is no rule against a FEEDBACK thread, just try to keep them for serious problems. If someone ditzes out on you, avoid him.

 

[Apec]

There is no need for a poll, that's what itrader feedback is for. Looks like Eowyn has 50 positives and 0 negatives so far there...
One of the positives is from me when I purchased a journeyman at a very fair price from him. It was a flawless deal and I'd be happy to do business with him again.

I rarely see members with negatives that are allowed to stay on the forum. The things that warrant a negative usually end in a ban anyways. Most people are also too nice to leave neutral, save for those cases that are borderline negative.

 

[craytab]

This thread, & your actions, are pathetic!

I could care less, what your issue with, eowyn873 is...the way the two of you newer member's crapped in his sales thread of all places, & your indignant, self righteous, cavalier attitude in doing so, makes your actions even worse. This is a blatant violation of BladeForum's policy!

You guys (slorenzo & pwrdbycotn), have been member's here for only one, & two months respectively, & you're already whining in the GBU.

As for my own personal interactions, with eowyn873: we have interacted quite often, & I find him to be a very nice guy, whom I've grown to respect, & like...

In one/two months, you new guys coming on here & trashing member's reputations with allegations like "flipper" & whatever crap you feel will help justify your stupid thread, is plain ridiculous.

How about we start a poll like this:

Will I ever do a business transaction with the very rude, unprofessional & immature member's, slorenzo & pwrdbycotn?

HELL NO!!!

GTFU!

Edit: What a coincidence! All 3 of the above member's, on my never to do business list

I agree with ^this to a certain degree. New members crapping on a sales thread then starting a slander poll/thread is just ridiculous. That said, I would have reservation about doing business with the accused. I would in no way start a childish slander thread about it. Nothing actuallu happened to the OP. No one is out anything. Just avoid him in the future.

Your entitled to your opinions, but I do not understand how length of membership has anything to do with validity of concerns expressed.

Really? If you were here longer you would have learned that what you are doing is wrong. Let's see what the experts say!

1. Interfering with an Exchange thread is a BFC violation.
2. Got a complaint about a deal? Post it in FEEDBACK, not in the Hall of Shame.
3. If you think a member should be a dealer, post about it in Tech Support. Mods don't read every thread.

Under ordinary circumstances, if a deal wasn't completed, it isn't a violation and doesn't rate a FEEDBACK thread. It definitely doesn't rate negative iTrader feedback.

Thank you for clearing things up. So if a seller doesn't keep his word and the deal does not go through there is no recourse?

If you were here longer, or read some of the rules, you would know this. You would also know not to poop in a sales thread. More sage advice:

Sure there's recourse. Don't deal with him again.

There is no rule against a FEEDBACK thread, just try to keep them for serious problems. If someone ditzes out on you, avoid him.

So at the end of the day, post less and read more. Get a feel for a place before you start treating it like your private playground. 2 more for the ignore list, folks who crap in sales threads always go there.

Edit to add that pwrdbycotn has been here 2 months and most of his posts are in buying, selling, trading. This means more to me than this silly hate thread. Thanks for pointing this member out!

 

[wtlj]

KELAMA I'm glad you joined in so I can express my feelings on the only other member I won't deal with again!
A few months ago KELAMA posted a for sale thread with a few Spydercos...within a minute I posted "I'll take it" on his PM2 S35V. A few minutes later his buddy Seth Green posted "seconds" he sold it to him and lied that he sent him a pm before my post, nearly impossible and that's why Seth posted "seconds". I completely understand he didn't break any rules and he can sell to whomever he pleases without explanation, but what happened to a mans word, a handshake, integrity...clearly KELAMA & Eowyn deserve to be friends.

 

[craytab]

KELAMA I'm glad you joined in so I can express my feelings on the only other member I won't deal with again!
A few months ago KELAMA posted a for sale thread with a few Spydercos...within a minute I posted "I'll take it" on his PM2 S35V. A few minutes later his buddy Seth Green posted "seconds" he sold it to him and lied that he sent him a pm before my post, nearly impossible and that's why Seth posted "seconds". I completely understand he didn't break any rules and he can sell to whomever he pleases without explanation, but what happened to a mans word, a handshake, integrity...clearly KELAMA & Eowyn deserve to be friends.

Sure Kelama has his own issues. Wasn't it a New years resolution for you not to post in the GB&U anymore?

But as you said, a seller can sell to who ever he wants. Calling people names and complaining about sour grapes isn't very becoming.

And on topic, the OP is also complaining about sour grapes. Suck it up and move along. The only person to violate any rules here is the OP.

 

[snippy]

So, the guy is flipping - and needs to upgrade his membership to continue like this.

I think that is about it.

Eric

 

[RevDevil]

My advice is in addition to what Esav posted, read the exchange rules. Understand how things work here before getting upset over something that you might not know about. There is a method to the way this place runs, and it is designed to be as fair as possible to everyone. A quick read will allow you to discover how to deal with most issues accordingly.

 

[JR88FAN]

The poll thing needs to go, it makes no sense in the context of a complaint about another member....

There is nothing really going on here.

First, the OP lost nothing.
I have been on both sides of verbal agreements that for one reason or another did not work out.
It's not the end of the world and you move on.

As for the second complaint, why complain?
If a knife is taken apart after the deal is done, it belongs to the buyer.
You took it back, nice thing to do, but not an 'obligation' so why come on here and make a point about it now?

As far as accusing someone of being a 'flipper' that is not uncommon on BF or any forum of any hobby.
There can sometimes be a very fine line between 'maybe flipper' and 'dealer' and if you suspect that a knife 'flipper' warrants a dealer membership, contact the mods.
They will look into it for you, but it's very difficult to find that line.

I don't know eowyn873, never dealt with him, however the issues brought up by the co-op's did not need to be in the GBU.
This place can make or break a member, and there is nothing in either post that is anything more then a rant.....