Bawanna is the man!

Lou Castle said:
Beautiful grips. Your usual high standard in leather work on the sheath. But Heber, you GOTTA replace those chewed-up grip screws and then get a screwdriver that fits them so they don't get messed up again! You might want to think about going to Allen Heads.
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LOL! Thanks Lou, nice to see you around. Those are stock screws, I've changed the grips around a few times and buggered them up a bit. Still shoots straight. ;)


Bawanna, I may take you up on the offer. I probably have a small screw driver that fits, if I have not already modified it for tooling leather. Stainless may look really good on the gun.
 
1911's sure are nice, but carrying one all day with some reloads isn't so nice.

Polymer guns aren't as pretty, but they have proven them selves and are much lighter.
 
I agree.

But in the immortal words of Clint Smith, it's there to be comforting, not necessarily comfortable although mine is often times forgotten. A good belt and a good holster makes all the difference.

All that being said I have a tupperware 45 on my ankle, ankles not much good for much else, might as well hang something useful on it ya know?
 
Those are very nice.
My 1911-which doesn't get carried much since I had a job with Glocks and truly scandalous quantities of free ammo-is a very ratty looking Caspian parts build from when i worked at Auto-ordnance in West Hurley in the early 90's...grips are stock GI, done with the soldering iron texturing treatment. The ceramacoat is wearing off(again) but it still runs like a top and will put Federal 230gr match into 2"at 50 if I havent had coffee for a day or so
Lol...Nice grips would look very strange...
 
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J W Bensinger said:
Those are very nice.
My 1911-which doesn't get carried much since I had a job with Glocks and truly scandalous quantities of free ammo-is a very ratty looking Caspian parts build from when i worked at Auto-ordnance in West Hurley in the early 90's...grips are stock GI, done with the soldering iron texturing treatment. The ceramacoat is wearing off(again) but it still runs like a top and will put Federal 230gr match into 2"at 50 if I havent had coffee for a day or so
Lol...Nice grips would look very strange...
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Cant complain about 2in @ 50 yards. Some people pay a lot of money for that accuracy. I am a die hard fan of the 230 FMJ... the .45acp doesn't need hollow points and I prefer the reliability of round nose ammo. Who needs expansion when you are already starting with .452 :cool: ? I stick with 124gr Speer JHP out of my Berretta 92fs and 165gr Gold Dots out of my .40sw Glock 23.

Nice to know you worked over at Auto ordnance... I need one of those violin cased Thompson pistol for the back seat of my truck. Auto Ordnance has been putting out great products for awhile now. Are you still working for Glock? I am a pistol shooting nut, been doing NRA small bore, NRA large bore, IPSC style plates, pin shoots, ect since the age of 14. I have gone through about 500 rounds every weekend for 25 years, my Dillion 550 is still going strong!
 
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gurkha berserka said:
...164gr Gold Dots out of my .40sw Glock 23.
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You guys got me beat all to heck but i did like my .40sw Glock 23 much better than the Glock 30 .45 ACP i have now. Two different animals for me. The 30 is too fat for my sausage fingers and never felt real comfortable with it. Maybe because most of my paper plate destruction was done with the 23:D. .40 was a bit cheaper too. Dang! Its time to go to the range again with the girls.
 
I'm a fan of the .40 as well. I like how I could find it when 9mm, .45, and .38/.357 were unobtanium.
Puts a good amount of thump down range. I just don't like the report. It's loud enough that I don't really like considering it for SD.

My striker fired FNS-40 is probably the closest thing I have to a gun I consider good for both the woods and the concrete jungle.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
I'm a fan of the .40 as well. I like how I could find it when 9mm, .45, and .38/.357 were unobtanium.
Puts a good amount of thump down range. I just don't like the report. It's loud enough that I don't really like considering it for SD.

My striker fired FNS-40 is probably the closest thing I have to a gun I consider good for both the woods and the concrete jungle.
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The FNS40 is a great pistol with a solid track record. I love the new model with the milled slide to accept the trijicon rmr sight. You can co witness a red dot without the downfall of sunlight washout or low light bloom. The iron sights are always in the sight picture. It's an awesome set up and there are companies that will mill glocks, 1911's, sig, heck I've even seen a cz75 with that set up. Good choice on pistols Jake, striker fired pistol tend to be the most reliable and have the lightest weight due to the polymer frame and lower number of internal parts. I think glocks have only 34 parts, 4 of which make up the magazine.
 
Interesting features on that FNS40. The striker fire im not familiar with. Im assuming it is a mechanical feature that reduces trigger pull each time the slide cycles? Ill have to read more on that.
 
Glocks are nice pistols, though their looks never did it for me. Springfield XD's and S&W M&P's are more my thing. Striker fired pistols work for me. Some people prefer a hammer fired gun, but it's all the same to me. LOL!

Anyone have a preference on Powder for the .45 ACP? I'm not looking at recipes, just ideas on powder. Got a box of Hornady 230 grain Lead bullets for my
45, Primers and shells. Just need to pick a powder and do some reloading at a friends.
 
Truth be told, I picked the FNS because I was browsing my local gun shop looking for a .40 because I was so tired not being able to shoot (this was during the ammo drought 2 years ago).
My gun guy said, "You gotta hold this one..."
Boom. Done deal. Love the pistol and makes shooting .40 feel like a 9mm. Not a 1911 trigger, but plenty short of a reset for a striker fire. I have heard FNH designed this to be a bit of a race gun. Certainly not the most popular or common plastic out there, but I never regretted the decision.

Sorry for the thread drift Heber:o

Those grips look Sooo nice. Honestly, I kinda feel like I have shaken Joe's hand after installing those grips. Never a bad thing to get to know a forum friend better:)
 
No problem Jake. I've held a few FN Pistols, they are nice! Wouldn't mind one my self. CZ75 in .40 S&W is also pretty nice!
 
one of my absolute worst regrets has to do with a CZ-75 Compact that I foolishly sold. Was one of the best pistols I have ever fired and fit my hand as if made from a pattern. I was in need of the money and had a standing offer on it. So instead of trying to work out something with one of my less favorites I went ahead and sold it. I saw it at the range a year or so later. The guy buggered it all up with "upgrades" swapped it over to SA only and did a bunch of other work to it. Ruined the smoothest-crispest trigger I have ever felt on a semi-auto. I almost cried when I got home afterwards.

As to .40? I just don't care for it. Most of them have a weird snap I don't care for. Throws my second round of a double tap off worse than any other caliber I have ever fired. Nothing against them, just a personal preference. I would go 10mm way before .40 As for the unobtanium. I thought that was .22 :D Still tough to find that stuff for reasonable prices.
 
Sorry to hear shav, nothing worse than seeing something you love ruined by someone else :( I'm not large in the gun compartment (being in Oz and all) but I can feel your pain.
 
ndoghouse said:
Interesting features on that FNS40. The striker fire im not familiar with. Im assuming it is a mechanical feature that reduces trigger pull each time the slide cycles? Ill have to read more on that.
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Striker fired pistols differ from other pistols because they lack a hammer and firing pin. The have an inline striker that is held back by a sear. They are always in a semi cock state therefore they are super safe. They can not be fired when dropped because the striker isn't fully spring "loaded" until you apply pressure to the trigger. It does not feel like a double action pistol because most DA's have heavy 8-16 lbs trigger pulls, and a striker fired pistol is always in a semi cocked state with less travel needed to load the striker. Striker fired pistols only require about 2lbs or so of pressure to "fully cock" the striker. Also the initial take up before you hit the "wall" or breaking point is very short. Most DA have a long stroke, but a striker fired pistol only needs about a quarter inch of take up before you hit the wall...l then it requires another 5 or 6lbs to release the striker. You are already applying 2lbs of pressure so the extra 5lbs it takes to release the striker feels much lighter than a trigger pull scale will tell you. Striker pistols have much fewer parts than DA or even most SA auto pistols.

I hope I explained it ok... The 1984 Glock 17 9mm was the first popular striker fired pistol. There have been earlier models but Glock was the first "popular" striker pistol that started the revolution. I really don't care for the Springfield XD mainly because of its weird features. You can not pull the slide back unless the beavertail grip safety is depressed... so press checks can be difficult unless you have a full shooting grip on it. They are also made in Croatia where they were designed. Springfield just stamps their name on them... They have been around since early 1991 and never caught on until Springfield dumped major dollars into marketing. They also lack steel locking lugs in the rear of the lower receiver. They only have about 1 inch of contact surface between the slide and frame located above the trigger mechanism. A lot of people love them and that's cool. I just don't like how they feel, fire, their construction, or manufacturing quality control.

I am kind of a handgun snob so I hope people don't get upset at my opinions of quality and types of guns. I have owned many many guns... well over a hundred or so. I tried every manner of pistol, and rifle. I have very limited experience shotguns, or muzzle loaders, although I do have a Ruger Old Army cap and ball gun that I simply adore. So to all you XD owners... please don't get mad at me because I don't like XD's. My little brother has and XD and loves it... they are just not my cup of tea. I would much rather take a full sized glock 34/35 or H&KUSP .45 for my polymer pistol pick. The new HK P30 long slide is on my list of pistols I need to own. I am also not a brand snob. I love my S&W1911TA, but I would never my an M&P or Sigma. Their M&P looks nice but the hinged trigger is the Achilles heel... There have also been a few M&P's that blew up because they will fire out of battery. Check out the You tube videos...
 
GB, No worry about the dislike of a XD, to each their own, but a Glock? LoL, hopefully you won't get upset about my dislike of them for EDC. :D

With no hammer they are dangerous. Particularly if you carry at 4 o’clock position or any position where you can't see the trigger into the holster. It is to easy to get something like clothing stuck between the holster and trigger when reholstering. With a hammer I keep my thumb firmly on the decocked hammer, so if something pushes on the trigger I’ll feel resistance against my thumb and I am able to fix the problem before it fires. Also no safe way to Decock when you get home and are putting your EDC up for the day or when time to clean the weapon.

Additionally the hugh difference of the grip angle means that if you ONLY shoot Glocks you will learn to automatically correct for the angle BUT if you switch back and forth you must always remember to lower your point of aim. Try it sometime, just do a couple of quick draws and snap point with a Glock and with your USP . I will guarantee that you since you use so many different pistols will always be high by a few inches with the Glock unless you mentally re-adjust. Something I don't choose to risk in my EDC, I would rather always be on target instinctually.

Glocks are fine for someone that only wants Glocks but those of us who own multiple guns, I believe do a dis-service to themselves if they carry one. Take it to the range and keep it for just shooting but I would never bet my life on one. Not because they aren't reliable. But because they are SO different than all the other pistols I also use that it takes thought to be accurate, not something I want in a self defense moment.
 
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I have tried to like Glocks. I really have. I have owned 3 and all have been flawless, I just prefer a gun with a manual safety not built into the bang switch. That's one thing I like about the FNS, it has a tiny little safety that I use during holstering and storage of the gun in my night stand safe for the night. I flick it off when the gun is secured in my holster and always sweep it off (even if it already is off) when I draw.

I still like the FNX as I prefer hammer fired DA/SA and it can be carried cocked and locked as well. I also like that when put on "safe", the trigger is completely dead and disconnected. You can also field strip the gun without pulling the trigger, which I find safer when sticking to the 4 Laws.
 
Shavru said:
GB, No worry about the dislike of a XD, to each their own, but a Glock? LoL, hopefully you won't get upset about my dislike of them for EDC. :D

With no hammer they are dangerous. Particularly if you carry at 4 o’clock position or any position where you can't see the trigger into the holster. It is to easy to get something like clothing stuck between the holster and trigger when reholstering. With a hammer I keep my thumb firmly on the decocked hammer, so if something pushes on the trigger I’ll feel resistance against my thumb and I am able to fix the problem before it fires. Also no safe way to Decock when you get home and are putting your EDC up for the day or when time to clean the weapon.

Additionally the hugh difference of the grip angle means that if you ONLY shoot Glocks you will learn to automatically correct for the angle BUT if you switch back and forth you must always remember to lower your point of aim. Try it sometime, just do a couple of quick draws and snap point with a Glock and with your USP . I will guarantee that you since you use so many different pistols will always be high by a few inches with the Glock unless you mentally re-adjust. Something I don't choose to risk in my EDC, I would rather always be on target instinctually.

Glocks are fine for someone that only wants Glocks but those of us who own multiple guns, I believe do a dis-service to themselves if they carry one. Take it to the range and keep it for just shooting but I would never bet my life on one. Not because they aren't reliable. But because they are SO different than all the other pistols I also use that it takes thought to be accurate, not something I want in a self defense moment.
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The grip angle of the Glock is the almost same exact grip angle as the 1911. John Browning intended the 1911 to have a curved back strap... the correct curved back strap produces the same degree angle as the Glock. Its a little know fact due to everyone putting flat mainspring housings on their 1911's, which I consider sacrilege... just like full length guide rods.... they have no business on a 1911. I might understand a flat mainspring housing if and only if you have small hands. The Glock and John Brownings original 1911 have the almost identical grip angles. I don't mind glocks at all and they have been my main carry piece for 20 years. Glock has a secondary trigger than will block any accidental discharge, they are known to be much safer than any hammer or even DA pistols. Some untrained users have also lost their lives because they forget to click the safety off in life threatening situations. Revolvers and Glocks lessen the chance of someone being so scared that they forget to drop the safety. I carry a Berretta 92fs for time to time and I put the safety OFF after I decock it. I HATE safeties unless its my 1911... I always ride the safety while firing so there is no change to forget to "click" it off.

We all have our own likes and dislikes... I happen to loveeeee Glocks and 1911's with a passion. To each his own my good buddy Sharu :D I know everyone always talks about the Glocks grip angle but its the same as my arched mainspring 1911 which I prefer due to my GIANT hands. The Berretta 92, sig series, and especially H&K alllll have the almost exact grip angle as the glock. Gen 4 glocks offer different backstraps with new pistols to change grip angle for little handed shooters.

I routinely switch between my 1911 for steel plate shooting and my Glock 23 for IDPA all the time. I NEVER have and issue with high shots and never have. I think to much attention gets paid to Glocks grip angle and its mainly from Glock haters. My Browning .22 buck mark and Hi Standards Victor also have the "glock" angle. Like I said I fire close to 500 rounds every weekend and have been doing so for well over 20 years. I can shoot just about anything you put in my hand and get a good group. I can also shoot eggs @ 100 yards with my 3in S&W 657 sooo I might have a bit more experience than most.
 
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gurkha berserka said:
Striker fired pistols differ from other pistols because...
I hope I explained it ok.......
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Oh man I feel dumb as a coon pecker! You just described the gun i use now. Thanks gb that now makes perfect sense. I just didnt know what that newfangled firing mechanism was called. I know they have all kinds of aftermarket parts to reduce the reset travel, trigger pressure and all kinds of stuff. I did have a few hammers back in the day so I know how they work. I've had them glocks apart many times for cleaning etc. Pardon my lack of proper terminology.
 
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