Bear attack--1 dead--2 injured

Look out, bears are just sneaking around looking for someone to attack.

That’s what they do.

They are the common criminal of the animal world.:rolleyes:

There’s more to this story than the report shows. Betcha.

It was her fault????

Also a point to consider...Bears in YELLOWSTONE are not the same as bears in Alaska.

You might be an expert in wild bears in Alaska--but this is not the same thing.

These Bears are used to Humans

Read this

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66R5VK20100728?type=domesticNews

Bear kills man, injures two near Yellowstone Park



SALMON | Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:33pm EDT

SALMON Idaho (Reuters) - One man was killed and a man and a woman were injured by bear attacks in the middle of the night on Wednesday at a popular campground on the edge of Yellowstone Park, wildlife officials said.

Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks Department spokesman Ron Aasheim said it was believed one bear was involved and at least two tents were left in tatters in the attack, which occurred at the height of the tourist season.

"I thought I would be dinner," said Deb Freele, 58, of London, Ontario, who recalled awakening from a deep sleep in her tent to find a bear chewing on her arm.

"Within hundredths of seconds, I felt the teeth in my arm, heard bones breaking. I screamed and that seemed to aggravate him. He sunk his teeth into me again," she recounted in a telephone interview from her hospital room in Cody, Wyoming.

"So I decided to play dead and mean it," she said, adding that when she did, the bear, which she believed was a grizzly, let go and lumbered away.

Investigators were still trying to determine if the animal was a black bear or a grizzly, Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks Department spokesman Ron Aasheim said.

He said the attacks appeared to be unprovoked, and that the presence of food, which often attracts bears and other wildlife into campgrounds, did not appear to be a factor. Such "random predatory" bear attacks on humans are rare, he said.

The last fatal bear attack in Montana was in 2001, when a grizzly mauled and killed a hunter who was dressing out an elk, Aasheim said.

Soda Butte, which offers 27 campsites in a national forest known for its blue-ribbon trout fishing, was immediately evacuated and nearby campgrounds were closed after Wednesday's attacks, he said. The incident occurred at the height of the tourist and camping season in the Gallatin.

Wildlife officials launched an all-out search for the bear, or bears, including the use of airplanes and helicopters on the lookout for radio-collared animals or others in the vicinity. Bear traps also were being set in the campground.

The man killed was described as being middle-aged, but no other information about him was immediately released. Freele, and a man who was not identified were taken to a hospital in Cody, Wyoming, with injuries suffered in separate encounters.

An investigation was under way to piece together events.

"It's a horrible tragedy," Aasheim said, adding, "When you're in bear country, there's always that potential."

Tony Latham, a retired conservation officer who has investigated previous bear maulings in the region, said predatory attacks on people are unusual, especially if fatal.

"In my 22 years as an officer in Idaho, there was only one predatory attack, and the person got away by getting into a river," he said. "I don't believe there was ever anyone killed in Idaho by a bear in those 22 years."

(Additional reporting by Ruffin Prevost in Cody, Wyoming, and James Nelson in Salt Lake City; Writing by Steve Gorman; Editing by Greg McCune and Eric Walsh)
 
Present policy is to destroy any bear that attacks a human for any reason, their fault, human's fault, or nobody's fault. This policy recognizes the fact that human life has more value than that of a bear.
Not in the eyes of bears. Or any living creature other than humans, for that matter, and not even all humans at that. ;)
 
"...I felt the teeth in my arm, heard bones breaking. I screamed...He sunk his teeth into me again...So I decided to play dead and mean it," she said, adding that when she did, the bear, which she believed was a grizzly, let go and lumbered away...

I'm having a very hard time comphrehending how one can have the presence of mind and body control to "play dead" in such a situation. I'm not calling BS...I simply can't imagine how one could control one's breathing when one is in such a situation. My chest would be heaving...there is no way I could feign death. Playing dead is giving up...and "hoping." :eek:
 
Not in the eyes of bears. Or any living creature other than humans, for that matter, and not even all humans at that. ;)

True. As far as those humans go, they have a very unrealistic ideal of animals, IMHO. In fact, I'd venture to say that their own exposure to animals is limited to cartoon movies where animals are presented as having human qualities such as feelings, reasoning, intellegence and language. And their own household pets. These are the very people most likely to do dumb human tricks that puts themselves and others in danger when interacting with wild animals.
 
It was her fault????

Also a point to consider...Bears in YELLOWSTONE are not the same as bears in Alaska.

You might be an expert in wild bears in Alaska--but this is not the same thing.

These Bears are used to Humans

Read this

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66R5VK20100728?type=domesticNews

Bear kills man, injures two near Yellowstone Park



SALMON | Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:33pm EDT

SALMON Idaho (Reuters) - One man was killed and a man and a woman were injured by bear attacks in the middle of the night on Wednesday at a popular campground on the edge of Yellowstone Park, wildlife officials said.

Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks Department spokesman Ron Aasheim said it was believed one bear was involved and at least two tents were left in tatters in the attack, which occurred at the height of the tourist season.

"I thought I would be dinner," said Deb Freele, 58, of London, Ontario, who recalled awakening from a deep sleep in her tent to find a bear chewing on her arm.

"Within hundredths of seconds, I felt the teeth in my arm, heard bones breaking. I screamed and that seemed to aggravate him. He sunk his teeth into me again," she recounted in a telephone interview from her hospital room in Cody, Wyoming.

"So I decided to play dead and mean it," she said, adding that when she did, the bear, which she believed was a grizzly, let go and lumbered away.

Investigators were still trying to determine if the animal was a black bear or a grizzly, Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks Department spokesman Ron Aasheim said.

He said the attacks appeared to be unprovoked, and that the presence of food, which often attracts bears and other wildlife into campgrounds, did not appear to be a factor. Such "random predatory" bear attacks on humans are rare, he said.

The last fatal bear attack in Montana was in 2001, when a grizzly mauled and killed a hunter who was dressing out an elk, Aasheim said.

Soda Butte, which offers 27 campsites in a national forest known for its blue-ribbon trout fishing, was immediately evacuated and nearby campgrounds were closed after Wednesday's attacks, he said. The incident occurred at the height of the tourist and camping season in the Gallatin.

Wildlife officials launched an all-out search for the bear, or bears, including the use of airplanes and helicopters on the lookout for radio-collared animals or others in the vicinity. Bear traps also were being set in the campground.

The man killed was described as being middle-aged, but no other information about him was immediately released. Freele, and a man who was not identified were taken to a hospital in Cody, Wyoming, with injuries suffered in separate encounters.

An investigation was under way to piece together events.

"It's a horrible tragedy," Aasheim said, adding, "When you're in bear country, there's always that potential."

Tony Latham, a retired conservation officer who has investigated previous bear maulings in the region, said predatory attacks on people are unusual, especially if fatal.

"In my 22 years as an officer in Idaho, there was only one predatory attack, and the person got away by getting into a river," he said. "I don't believe there was ever anyone killed in Idaho by a bear in those 22 years."

(Additional reporting by Ruffin Prevost in Cody, Wyoming, and James Nelson in Salt Lake City; Writing by Steve Gorman; Editing by Greg McCune and Eric Walsh)

Thanks, but I’m no expert on bears in AK.

I agree with your assumption that some Yellowstone bears are habituated to people. Any wildlife that loses its healthy fear of humans can become a threat. Want to see bears that are “Used to humans”? Go to one of our many tourist fishing rivers and count bears. Go to the campgrounds on the Kenai and look at all the bear scat. We have the same problems with bears as the lower 48, except our bears get bigger, so there’s no difference.

However, I still maintain that it is incredibly unlikely that a bear simply went on a killing spree, attacking unseen occupants in their tents, without some sort of provocation, or other extenuating circumstance.
BTW, the article didn’t mention how the old guy died. Injuries from the bear, or heart attack?

I’m not saying the woman was at fault, but, she is being portrayed as totally innocent . Did the woman have food in her tent, (even though “it didn’t appear to be a factor”)? Did she go to sleep drunk? Did she eat a pound of bacon for dinner and then snore and fart all night long? Maybe she fixed tuna fish sandwiches for dinner and didn’t bother to wash up afterwards. I’m sure we’ll never hear that part of the story, just the part about the bear that “went berserk”. I’ve sent to many sensationalized news stories to believe them at face value.

I really don’t see why these stories get so much attention. Floridian mosquitoes with Dengue fever should garner at least as much notice, but it doesn’t.

I am going backpacking again this week.

I won’t be doing the Timothy Treadwell act. He was an idiot, and a fool, who deserved to die. I don’t blame the Kodiak that killed him. Those bears had put up with enough of Timmy-boy and his arrogance.

I will take all the necessary precautions, like I always do.

I will be packing my .44 magnum with bear loads.

I may get lucky and see a bear or two.

I may surprise a bear and get mauled, or killed.

I will not worry about being attacked in my tent by a bear, nor will I worry about being struck by an errant meteorite. Same odds.

One thing for sure, I will have a great time. There’s nothing like living on the edge to make you feel alive and get some perspective on what’s important and what’s not. I can stay home and be scared of almost anything if I want to. Real threats include terrorism, our government, distracted cell-phone drivers and drunk parolees, to name a few. These things concern me, but don’t scare me. Bears are way down the list of scary things.

If I was fear based, I would sit around and talk about my bad-ass tactical knives that I carry on me all the time, and warn everyone not to mess with me. But I’m not, so I don’t.
 
Earlier this month we stayed at a campground that had bear warning signs posted along with regulations for food storage. The first morning there I got up early for a short hike before it got too hot. I could not believe the food that was available in the campsites. I would say three out of four sites had food just sitting on a picnic table and many food containers were opened. No reports of bears but I could not believe how careless so many campers were. It’s terrible that someone lost their life and bad that the bears may be blamed for following their instincts.

Exactly the point. There is very little respect for what any large, hungry predator could do if it felt so inclined. We are not helping things by bringing in the treasure troves of easily accessed, good smelling food, nor in failing to remove our trash when we leave. I was always taught to have empty containers for the refuse and remove it yourself, leave the campsite as good or better than when you came. Unfortunately, that is not the norm, or perhaps it is a fading practice and one I'd like to see re-emerge.

Overpopulation isn't the root cause, it's overabundance of human food to begin with.

-E
 
In many cases, that point would be arguable. ;)

...then you are one of that % that feels that way. To my way of thinking, I would sacrifice a hundred bears to save the life of one human, even one whose philosophy/demeanor/lifestyle I absolutely detested. In fact, I would find it quite difficult to restrain myself from putting my own life in danger to come to the aid of any person being attacked by a bear or any other animal.

'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me... 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
 
Many attacks take place in national parks where hunting bears and even carrying guns aren't allowed.

In the US, guns are now allowed in all National Parks, due to recently passed federal regulation. Not many people know about it, but you're legally allowed to carry in all national parks now, although you will probably take crap in certain heavily populated areas still.
 
There is more to this story than the report shows I’m sure. Bears don’t just “go postal”. Food, cubs or some type of idiotic behavior was no doubt involved, (past or present).


Exactly. Bears in these big parks [Yosemite is another hot bed] become habitualized by lazy car campers. The sense of smell on a bear is exponentially better than that of a blood hound and these beasts are always looking for an easy meal. I was just north of Yosemite a few weeks back and had a black bear wander within 20 feet of me [at a National Forest car camping spot] three times. Black bears don't normally act like this in the backcountry. If people were scrupulous about bear safety, we probably wouldn't have bears wandering through packed camp grounds.

As for guns in the wilderness, man this topic comes-up a lot: I would hope the person was a good shot. There are A LOT of people [and kids] in these big campsites ... this isn't the open backcountry of Alaska.
 
In the US, guns are now allowed in all National Parks, due to recently passed federal regulation. Not many people know about it, but you're legally allowed to carry in all national parks now, although you will probably take crap in certain heavily populated areas still.
Where it's legal and bears are a problem, a gun is common sense. Same thing with walrus. Now some walrus are more aggressive than bears. Load the first barrel to scare and the second to kill because if the banger doesn't work, you have a problem.
 
As for guns in the wilderness, man this topic comes-up a lot: I would hope the person was a good shot. There are A LOT of people [and kids] in these big campsites ... this isn't the open backcountry of Alaska.

I agree 100%.
If you can’t practice and shoot well with a pistol, please don’t endanger others and yourself.

I am a huge advocate of pepper spray. In fact, I just suggested that option to a local who was talking to me about getting a pistol for bears.

Despite its less than stellar reputation on black bears, I still carry pepper spray in the appropriate circumstances.

Be sure to practice with pepper spray before you have to use it, that way you understand its dynamics. It’s worth the extra $20 to buy two cans and try one out. Don’t shoot into the wind!
 
Damn shame. The bears have been conditioned such that people = food.

If you're going to hike and camp in bear territory....

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i have both when i am in bear territory.. legal or not i dont care. as the old saying goes i would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.;)
 
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