Bear Grylls is not quite a survivor

rebeltf said:
Whataya mean Sponge aint real !!??
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Oh, Sponge Bob is definitely real. He must be, because I've spent about $500 on Sponge Bob toys, games and movies.

What I mean't say is that Sponge Bob isn't a real survivalist. :thumbup:

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LOL, poor Bear. He may want to change his nickname to Creampuff Grylls, but I'd still watch his show.
 
this information really shouldn't make me happy. It does though. Oh well, I never claimed not to be an asshole.
 
I recant everything that Bear taught me.

Excuse me, I've got some horse turds and a bottle of pee to clean out of my fridge...
 
I recently stopped watching Man Vs Wild. I got disgusted with the blatant fraud and obviously contrived heroics. Except for the scenery, Man Vs Wild has little to do with man's relationship to the wilderness.

If you want to see puffed up derring-do, it is much more skillfully presented in the James Bond films and others of that genre.
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I am keenly looking forward to Les Stroud's soon to be released episodes of Survivorman. Every once in a while, evidence of justice can be seen in the world. But I hope Stroud is not forced to make the show more sensational in order to compete with Grylls for ratings.
 
If this "revelation" about Grylls is true, I respect him even more because of it. Who in their right mind would sleep in freezing rain all night or in the middle of Mosquito Forest when he could kick back on linen sheets watching the Skin Channel and slamming a Foster's Lager? More power to him.

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powernoodle said:
If this "revelation" about Grylls is true, I respect him even more because of it. Who in their right mind would sleep in freezing rain all night or in the middle of Mosquito Forest when he could kick back on linen sheets watching the Skin Channel and slamming a Foster's Lager? More power to him.

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I am not sure if this is trolling or not but if so I will take the bait. This is precisely the type of thinking that disgusts me, it seems more and more people have no integrity or values and that if you can do something and get by with it then do it. Even more disturbing is that a lot of people in our society find it amusing to lie, cheat and steal and laugh about it with their friends, I find nothing whatsoever amusing about a liar and a con man. Chris
 
I have no doubt that the dude know things the average joe don't, but did anybody notice he was wearing a life jacket under his sweatshirt after he jumped in the rapids somewhere in South America if i remember correctly? What's up with that?
 
runningboar said:
I am not sure if this is trolling or not but if so I will take the bait. This is precisely the type of thinking that disgusts me, it seems more and more people have no integrity or values and that if you can do something and get by with it then do it. Even more disturbing is that a lot of people in our society find it amusing to lie, cheat and steal and laugh about it with their friends, I find nothing whatsoever amusing about a liar and a con man. Chris
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Yep, that sort of thinking seems par for the course these days. And not just on television either, unfortunately. To me, the thinking seems to be that it is ok to mislead, lie, cheat, or steal as long as you don't get caught. And, when you are caught, just rationalize the lack of integrity and all will be well.
 
runningboar said:
I am not sure if this is trolling or not but if so I will take the bait. This is precisely the type of thinking that disgusts me . . . I find nothing whatsoever amusing about a liar and a con man.
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Believe me please when I say that was not intended as trolling or other provocation. Thats because it is very apparent, even to a knucklehead like me, that its just a dangnab, dangblasted tv show! If the viewer cannot discern that it is not a documentary, that the "wild horse" that Grylls tries to ride looks more like a circus pony than an untamed stallion, for example, then the viewer really is lost in TV Land.

You know, when you see a guy in a Coke commercial enjoying a cold one on the beach, the tv camera didn't actually sneak up on him, catching him in the act of drinking a Coke. He's acting. Thats what people do on tv. And Grylls isn't actually dieing of dehydration when he drinks his own whizz. If he were actually dieing of dehydration, the camera crew would give him some water or take him to the hospital.

HE'S ACTING! GET IT? Just like Angela Lansbury wasn't really a mystery writer on Murder She Wrote. :thumbup:

Actors aren't "liars" and "con men", they are ACTORS. So, if you see one of the "terrorists" from Fox's "24" walking down the street, don't tackle him and take away his nuclear bomb. He's not really a terrorist. HE'S AN ACTOR.

Am I losing my mind?

Please excuse me while I jam flaming knitting needles in my eyes to distract myself from this ridiculous thread. :)

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Funny, but I don't think Les Stroud is acting quite so much.

Similar promotions for the two shows.

Very different shows, however. There are different kinds of shows, right?

It's not simple black and white--i.e., if it's TV, it's fake.

Did you not believe the news reports when they reported the World Trade Center coming down? Were they just acting?

Oh, that was a news show... hmmmmmmm.

What kind of show does Bear have? Or purport to have? I think that might just be the issue here.

Now excuse me while I go put my fingers in my ears and shout, "Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala..." :p
 
powernoodle said:
Who in their right mind would sleep in freezing rain all night or in the middle of Mosquito Forest when he could kick back on linen sheets watching the Skin Channel and slamming a Foster's Lager?
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Who? Les Stroud, maybe.

If it makes anyone feel better, Bear suffers from chronic back pain from his accident, and suffers from a 'hereditary predisposition to dangerously high levels of cholesterol.' Apparently, his father and grandfather dies from cholesterol-related heart attacks.

I'll keep watching.
 
powernoodle said:
Believe me please when I say that was not intended as trolling or other provocation. Thats because it is very apparent, even to a knucklehead like me, that its just a dangnab, dangblasted tv show! If the viewer cannot discern that it is not a documentary, that the "wild horse" that Grylls tries to ride looks more like a circus pony than an untamed stallion, for example, then the viewer really is lost in TV Land.

You know, when you see a guy in a Coke commercial enjoying a cold one on the beach, the tv camera didn't actually sneak up on him, catching him in the act of drinking a Coke. He's acting. Thats what people do on tv. And Grylls isn't actually dieing of dehydration when he drinks his own whizz. If he were actually dieing of dehydration, the camera crew would give him some water or take him to the hospital.

HE'S ACTING! GET IT? Just like Angela Lansbury wasn't really a mystery writer on Murder She Wrote. :thumbup:

Actors aren't "liars" and "con men", they are ACTORS. So, if you see one of the "terrorisits" from Fox's "24" walking down the street, don't tackle him and take away his nuclear bomb. He's not really a terrorist. HE'S AN ACTOR.

Am I losing my mind?

Please excuse me while I jam flaming knitting needles in my eyes to distract myself from this ridiculous thread. :)

right on
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This show is NOT presented as fiction. "Bear" is NOT presented as a fictional character being played by an actor. They go out of their way to publicize his credentials in order to support the notion that he is a credible source when it comes to wilderness survival.

Comparisons to television fiction are weak and irrelevant. A better comparison would be to other "how to" shows. Bob Villa used his own name and gave specific advice. He was not "acting" per se. Tim Allen played Tim Taylor and ACTED like the host of a tool show. If you can't see the difference, the knitting needles are probably too little, too late.

-- FLIX
 
Guyon said:
Funny, but I don't think Les Stroud is acting quite so much.
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No one said he was. But if I saw him trying to ride a circus pony while pretending it was a wild stallion, I'd know that he's faking it too. See, despite all outward appearances, I still have a functioning brain stem. Or at least part of one. Thats how I knew that Angela Lansbury was just an actor too. :)

Did you not believe the news reports when they reported the World Trade Center coming down? Were they just acting?
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Rudy Giulianni never tried to drink his own piss while riding a circus pony. Had he done so, I'm might have questioned the veracity of the 9/11 news reports. See my thought process on this one? :)

Not once did any disclaimer state that "24" wasn't real, but somehow I figured it out. So I guess I don't comprehend the shock and grief that followed from the "news" story that Grylls tried to ride a circus pony, when I already saw it with my own eyeballs.


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