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Bear Grylls Q & A
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Cool link...Man Vs Wild is a great show, very entertaining, and Bear is a very knowledgeable guy. On the other hand that hippie Les is very boring, and all he does throughout the entire show is sleep and complain.
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I watch neather, I am a free thinking individual.
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Why would you sit inside and watch a show about survival for an hour when you could be out actually practicing skills for an hour.
Its the difference between book smarts and street smarts.
Its the difference between book smarts and street smarts.
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I love it when Bear is bashed because he was only TA SAS. Go ask the guys at 4th Recon BN or 3rd/4th Force Recon Co. if they think they're not real Recon Marines and see what kind of response you get.
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I do, in fact, I don't think Les' show is boring at all. He finds some humor here and there and is equally fun to watch. Man Vs. Wild is a little more entertaining due to Bear moving around. I like both shows and will continue watching them.
Partner, I was reserve Special Forces (actually ARNG) in the 80s assigned to an operation team (not a cook, baker or candlestick maker as our SGM used to call our support company). I spent about a year at JFKSWC at Bragg on active duty in training and several more years in the Guard. There is a real difference between the guys who have completed training and the wannabes. Edward is a wannabe.
I would NEVER identify myself as being SF, because I AM NOT. I'm airborne, but I didn't complete SF training. Eddie is not SAS; he's just a guy who wanted to be SAS and tried without success to make it. Apparently, judging by his survival "skills", he didn't pay much attention in the few classes he did get to attend.
BTW: I managed not to nearly kill myself jumping out of airplanes also. But then again, I followed the directions.
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I watch Les every know and then but some episodes of Survivorman have bored me out of my mind, esp the older ones.
The reality of most surviving is shivering and a rumbling stomach (either from starvation or from diarrhea if you eat the stuff Eddie does raw or drink animal dung). It may also be relentless rain. Or absolute fear as you try to hide from those who have bad intentions. I think Les tries to play up those emotions and attempt to get the newbie psychologically prepared. Survival is 99% mental. Sometimes people on this board give me the impression that they think it is 99% batonning.
May I suggest then that you try Ron Hood. His videos should hit the spot, but he is somewhat pedantic. You won't see pseudo Xgames crap like jumping down mountain sides or climbing vines up and down waterfalls. Sorry.
Here's an appetizer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw2iagS5ymQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Pw9eauofQRon Hood also sells his comprehensive videos on his website. They are a little pricey to buy the whole set but the content seems excellent, especially for the beginner. It's also way cheaper than the survival schools being taught by some who have dubious credentials.
Ray Mears is good too and some of his vids are on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsbSMplJ6g4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aBEdi-xH3U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn9GmxWvABk As a side benefit, you'll get a fix for a Brit accent.
I guess I wouldn't mind Eddie as much if he had a real survival expert on the air to critique his stupidity and say what should have been done. It is rumored that Eddie had some real experts, but allowed the producer to get rid of them so the producer could give the show the proper edge.
See the difference between someone who knows what he's talking about and a baboon who swings from vines and eats dead roadkill brought to him by his staffers then spends the night in a hotel? Put another way, who would you rather be stuck in the wild with? Hood and Mears or Eddie?
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I never knew ARNG had 2 SFG, I learned something today.
Fair enough, you're not SF because you didn't complete SF training. We don't really know that about Bear do we? I've not found anything to prove he did/didn't go through the whole course, if you have please post it.
As for his show, it's TV. Do you expect it to show facts or do you expect it to be entertainment?
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He was in the 21st SAS (v), basicly civilian volunteers trained to cover for the SAS on the weekends etc.
But like it has been said here, he was injured for half his enlistment and probly didn't complete his training.
Not saying he isn't tough.
But like it has been said here, he was injured for half his enlistment and probly didn't complete his training.
Not saying he isn't tough.
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You might want to do a little more reading on that. Special Air Service (Reserves)
We really don't know that do we? Lots of people seem to think that but I've yet to see proof of it.
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The reality of most surviving is shivering and a rumbling stomach (either from starvation or from diarrhea if you eat the stuff Eddie does raw or drink animal dung). It may also be relentless rain. Or absolute fear as you try to hide from those who have bad intentions. I think Les tries to play up those emotions and attempt to get the newbie psychologically prepared. Survival is 99% mental. Sometimes people on this board give me the impression that they think it is 99% batonning.
May I suggest then that you try Ron Hood. His videos should hit the spot, but he is somewhat pedantic. You won't see pseudo Xgames crap like jumping down mountain sides or climbing vines up and down waterfalls. Sorry.
Here's an appetizer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw2iagS5ymQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Pw9eauofQRon Hood also sells his comprehensive videos on his website. They are a little pricey to buy the whole set but the content seems excellent, especially for the beginner. It's also way cheaper than the survival schools being taught by some who have dubious credentials.
Ray Mears is good too and some of his vids are on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsbSMplJ6g4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aBEdi-xH3U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn9GmxWvABk As a side benefit, you'll get a fix for a Brit accent.
I guess I wouldn't mind Eddie as much if he had a real survival expert on the air to critique his stupidity and say what should have been done. It is rumored that Eddie had some real experts, but allowed the producer to get rid of them so the producer could give the show the proper edge.
See the difference between someone who knows what he's talking about and a baboon who swings from vines and eats dead roadkill brought to him by his staffers then spends the night in a hotel? Put another way, who would you rather be stuck in the wild with? Hood and Mears or Eddie?
Bolded part is absolutely hilarious.
The fact that he was a fake was widely reported. Real SAS types protested, then Eddie changed his little resume to say "served with TA SAS" or words to that effect. That is technically true, I suppose, but misleading. Lastly, his tool kit is empty. No trained SAS'er does the things he does. I've trained with real SAS (visiting staff and training operations) and they know what they are doing.
Anyway, right back at ya: show me a link where he even claims (much less offers any evidence) that he completed training. That dude is quick to toot his own horn.
There were four groups, 11th and 12th in USAR and 19th and 20th in ARNG. Clinton chopped the USAR groups.
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You can think freely and still watch TV-shows.
Because I'm not always at a place where I can practice the skills and sometimes I just want to watch something on my computer, so I open up a beer and watch Mears, Stroud or Grylls. Heck, it's better than most other shows on TV. Also I get some inspiration out of the shows from time to time, or learn something I wouldn't have thought about. I'm not Davy Crockett. Noone in my family knows anything about bushcraft and noone ever taught me. I didn't see my grandpa often and he died before I wanted to ask him to teach me some skills. When he was my age, he escaped from a russian POW-camp for a week, wandering through russian forests and swamps before getting caught again in a city (maybe he became cocky after evading soldiers for such a long time). He knew a thing or two about survival, after spending 3 years in imprisonment, almost starving and being kept in isolation and beaten up (by his own people) after the russians captured him again.
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In one his recent episodes was the one in western Ireland where he took a bite of raw rotten sheep. Did anyone watch that? Yecch!
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That one was on here last week or the week before. I had in on a moment ago as I was reading down the threads here.
He'd just finished getting a feed off a skunk. He didn't seem to like that very much despite disposing of the rear end, and cooking it up. I've not tried it, but I don't imagine that tastes so great either.
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The show is one of my favorites. It is interesting and informative. What differance does it make if the guy was regular sas or reserve sas? He still is a good t.v. personality regardless of his unit. He makes alot of money also. That is a good thing. Like many people these days who know everthing about everything, except how to make money, Bear is a guy who knows how to make a buck. All the power to him. I like his style. So called "real SAS guys" most likely wouldn't make good t.v. personalities. They know how to fight and so forth, but they might not have good personalities. It's funny, I know quite a few men who have been in heavy combat, from WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, etc. and I've never ever heard them talk about militaristic subjects. In fact they wanted to forget that stuff.