Bear is back (Man vs. Wild marathon on now)

I think Bear is behaving a little better in this series- admitting that he's getting help, giving credit for said help, not telling tall tales about killing domestic animals and calling them wild. I noticed he's doing a whole lot less of the dumb stuff too.

Maybe this season will be a tad better.

they've gone back and re-edited everything. Now it says things like "my TEAM and I will build a ladder to cross this river". Didn't start out that way, they had full intention of airing them like he did everything himself.

that said, I watch two episodes last night because it's better back ground noise while doing some knife maint./ sharpening than the other crap thats on.
 
AustinTXShooter - off topic- but he is in his first year at University of Michigan in Anesthesiology- graduated from Medical College of Ohio at Toledo along with his wife who is in Family practice.
 
I went in search of 'third party' info on the re-edits and found this... (I know, a Hollywood industry publication is not exactly the Washington Post...)

Discovery Channel on Monday aired re-edited versions of unscripted series "Man vs. Wild" for the first time since acknowledging that elements of the unscripted series were faked.

A disclaimer was added to four episodes from the first season that ran consecutively from 7-11 p.m., and other clarifications came in the form of new voice-overs from "Wild" star Bear Grylls and excisions of dubious footage.

In July, the series' British TV network, Channel 4, said it would investigate allegations that Diverse Television, the company that produces "Wild," had misrepresented Grylls' involvement (HR 7/24). Discovery was forced to acknowledge that "some episodes were not natural to the environment," creating a public-relations nightmare for one of its most popular series.

Although the series claims that Grylls braves the great outdoors, there have been several confirmed instances where Grylls either spent nights in a motel when he was depicted as sleeping outside or received off-camera assistance in constructing rafts or bridges he is shown crafting alone.

Beginning with Monday's rebroadcasts, "Wild" will now feature a disclaimer that runs both in the introduction and in the middle of each episode that reads: "Bear Grylls is trained in extreme survival techniques. He and the crew receive support when they are in potentially life-threatening situations, as required by health and safety regulations. Professional advice should be always be sought before entering any dangerous environment."

In an episode airing Monday set in the Scottish highlands, Grylls feasts on a rabbit he claims to have caught in a trap he set. But in the re-edited episode, the voice-over makes clear that his crew provides the rabbit for him.

"My trap didn't catch anything overnight, but I've been brought a rabbit to tell you what to do if you're luckier than me," Grylls says in the voice-over.

In another part of that episode, the location of one scene shot relatively close to civilization is specified as such.

An internal team at Discovery has been working around the clock in recent weeks scrutinizing the veracity of every second of the series. As of Monday, additional episodes scheduled to roll out during the next month were still being edited.

"If we found anything that wasn't natural to the environment, we have edited it out," a Discovery spokeswoman said.

For an episode in which Grylls travels to Mexico's Copper Canyon, a new voice-over clarifies that he is wearing a safety harness to descend a chasm. The original episode does not allude to any use of a harness; Grylls typically is depicted as traveling with just a few tools including a knife or flint.

In an episode set in Ecuador, a scene was removed that depicts Grylls going off to sleep in the forest because he in fact slept indoors that night. Another scene in the episode in which he is shown constructing a bamboo bridge now has a voice-over in which Grylls acknowledges that he received help on the project.

An episode set in the Florida Everglades features additional voice-over from Grylls explaining that a sleeping platform he erects above swampland also required assistance.

The new disclaimer also is posted on Discovery's Web home for "Wild," and any online video featured on the site that was changed for broadcast also will be changed. The re-edited episodes will repeat numerous times in the coming weeks on TV as well.

Grylls already is in production on a second season of episodes, which are expected to be edited from the get-go to emphasize the role the "Wild" crew and outside experts play in the production. The second season of "Wild" will roll out in three two-hour installments on Nov. 16, 23 and 30.

Those episodes are set in Patagonia, Panama and Siberia. A fourth episode filmed at an unspecified location is being considered. Grylls also is expected to return next year to shoot a third season.

The second season of "Wild" will be preceded by a Nov. 9 special, "Bear's Everest," in which Grylls attempts to fly over the Himalayas.

Not sure why the article speaks of "second season" as if it hasn't taken place -- I know on Eddie's blog that he refers to a "second half" of season 2, taking place in the Sahara and the other places listed above.
 
I didnt watch the reruns last night. But i would the next time they air just so i could listen to the voice over... I bet he dont smile as much any more...

Sasha
 
The new edits and voice-overs make this a much more honest show. However if you have seen the shows as they were orginally cut it also highlights how dishonest he had been.

Now that I watch them a second time, I also find it humerous to see Cub Boy loping around like a monkey most of the time. Brings to mind visions of Planet of the Apes. Jeeze but he overacts.

Still, it makes for great entertainment.
 
I didnt watch the reruns last night. But i would the next time they air just so i could listen to the voice over...

I caught the Ecuador ep and the added footage of Eddie examining a tree literally coated like paint with freaky poisonous caterpillars! *shudder*

I had flashbacks to the Surviorman Ecuador ep! :eek:


Also - the Discorvery site indicates there will be another S2 marathon on Sunday night, 9/30. I'll watch to experience the new, "responsible" MvW. *chuckle*
 
I wonder if discovery would ever deal with him again... How people did find out about him cheating??? When the first EP came out i were telling my GF wow this guy is realy tough after 4 days and he still not even tired.. He is not even slowing down with having almost no water or food... Heck even i can go on for weeks on end if i had good food lots of water and a good bed to sleep in everynight. I bet he didnt spend more then half a day filming. Does he still says in the begining that he was part of the SAS ???? cause if he does and keep giving those guys the bad name .............. We just might see Bear with his nose sticking from the back of his head.

Sasha
 
Nemoaz, I was thinking the same thing. My brother worked in TV/Hollywood and I really believe the production punks had more to do with how all this was done. Bear is still an accident looking for a place/time to happen in the bush but maybe he would not have chosen to make a fraud of himself. I can see the production people rationalizing out any need to actually stay out there, or waiting until a trap caught something and never thought they would draw a knowledgable audience who would see through their "little white lies". It doesn't make it excusable but maybe Bear isn't a total loss.
 
I love the show.

Reminds me of the days when I wasn't a keyboard adventurer!

As for the ski boots, they were the inserts. Mmmm, comfy.
 
AustinTXShooter - off topic- but he is in his first year at University of Michigan in Anesthesiology- graduated from Medical College of Ohio at Toledo along with his wife who is in Family practice.

GO BLUE!

that's where i did my residency as well! EXCELLENT program and not because i went there. the anesthesiology program is awesome and will definitely get excellent training!

their football team has a tough year in front of them though! if you ever go to a football game, look for the bulletin board with U of M's biggest idiots and you will see the, one of five pictures, of me. j/k'ing...but i crossed the 'no' option for lifetime alumni tickets. dont ask why because i have no idea as well!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
I watched the MvW marathon last night because I was curious about the extent and nature of the 'post-controversy' re-edits. Discovery aired the following S2 eps: Iceland, Mexico, Ecuador, Scotland, and Everglades.

All the eps featured the new disclaimer at the beginning stating that (I paraphrase) "Bear and his crew sometimes receive expert assistance in accordance with health and safety regulations... Do not attempt anything shown on this show..." This disclaimer was re-aired after the mid-hour commercial break. The opening intro from Bear has been changed to state something like "My crew and I will receive expert guidance when necessary, and I will be filmed throughout." The statement "I will show you how to survive" is retained, but the statement "My crew will only intervene in an emergency" has been omitted.

Each ep has some new footage that immediately jumped out at me, but I admit I didn't have a clear memory of what footage was deleted except for two instances: in "Everglades," when he swims across the river, the voiceover states "Local rangers (?) have helped make this crossing as safe as possible, but there is still some danger" and I could tell that some footage of him just before he jumps into the water was cut (no doubt Bear saying, "Ooooh, this is dangerous") -- he goes from approaching the river with the camera POV sort of looking over his shoulder (and the voiceover narration in the background) to suddenly swimming underwater -- I know the original cut showed him jumping in the river. Also, in Ecuador, there was footage cut from (I *think*) the 'bridge building' scene but I don't know what all is gone -- someone else on this forum made mention of this, I think.

More general changes: in every ep I watched, a statement saying "I won't be staying the night, but here's how to build a shelter in this environment" was added in voiceover before a shelter was built (so, apparently, he's NEVER spent the night on location?). Also, for all the eps aired Sunday, every shelter-building scene includes a statement to the effect that "With assistance from my crew, I built this shelter as follows..."

We now have confirmation from voiceover statements that he's apparently never caught any game himself (at least not in the locations visited in last night's eps) except the turtle and frogs in "Everglades" and some grubs and larvae. The voiceover in "Scotland" implied the deer was planted (forget the exact wording) while in "Iceland," Bear states "a local farmer left a dead sheep for me so I can show you what to do..." In "Scotland," Bear states "My rabbit snares didn't catch anything, but if you're luckier than I am, I've been provided a rabbit so I can show you what to do..."

DISCLAIMER: I didn't take notes; I'm going by memory. I'm not recounting anything I don't remember explicitly but I will happily stand corrected if anyone caught something I didn't or remembers something differently.
 
I've always known the show was fake but I still enjoyed it.


TV, and reality tv is scripted. There are very few shows out there that are w/o a script.

I wonder if discovery would ever deal with him again...

Does he still says in the begining that he was part of the SAS ???? cause if he does and keep giving those guys the bad name .............. We just might see Bear with his nose sticking from the back of his head.

Sasha

Do you honestly think the "cheating" is all on Bear? He's simply the actor.


He does a lot of charity work and raises money for good causes, and he does do a lot of outdoors/adventure stuff.

And he was in the SAS.
 
He does a lot of charity work and raises money for good causes, and he does do a lot of outdoors/adventure stuff.

More power to him for doing charity work... I read in a BBC article that he charges something like US$15,000 for a guest speaker appearance. :eek:
 
More power to him for doing charity work... I read in a BBC article that he charges something like US$15,000 for a guest speaker appearance. :eek:

That is not an unusual fee to be charging and is actually kind of cheap considering he is so well known. If you can get yourself on the speaking circuit, you will never have to work again. Even speakers who aren't in high demand get thousands of dollars an appearance. When I was in school we looked at getting certain people to come to speak, but unless they had some prior connection to the school and offered a discount, most people were way too expensive. http://www.keynotespeakers.com/browse.asp

For example, Lance Armstrong is $40,0001 and up. Think about that, he does one talk for less than two hours and he earns a good chunk of what most of us make in a year. Even someone like Deborah Norville, who is a spare television personality that hosts crappy shows like Inside Edition gets between $25,001-40,000 a speech. She gets a job telling us who is cheating on who in Hollywood and next thing you know, big bucks on the speakers circuit.
 
That is not an unusual fee to be charging and is actually kind of cheap considering he is so well known. If you can get yourself on the speaking circuit, you will never have to work again. Even speakers who aren't in high demand get thousands of dollars an appearance. When I was in school we looked at getting certain people to come to speak, but unless they had some prior connection to the school and offered a discount, most people were way too expensive. http://www.keynotespeakers.com/browse.asp

For example, Lance Armstrong is $40,0001 and up. Think about that, he does one talk for less than two hours and he earns a good chunk of what most of us make in a year. Even someone like Deborah Norville, who is a spare television personality that hosts crappy shows like Inside Edition gets between $25,001-40,000 a speech. She gets a job telling us who is cheating on who in Hollywood and next thing you know, big bucks on the speakers circuit.

Ann Coulter easily gets $40,000 for an appearance.
 
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