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they would swap like for like. not for a new model. which seems reasonable. their call though.
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Becker BK5 Fail!
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they would swap like for like. not for a new model. which seems reasonable. their call though.
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now why do you say that?
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I agree wih Bladeite 100%. Fix the edge and keep using it!
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Wouldnt that make that area of the blade very prone to chipping out?...would i not be better to just send it back to the company and see if they would replace it with the same knife or a different one?
I remember a few of the "disappointed" threads saying stuff like "I have some minor finish flaws in my knife, I'm sending it back" or reporting user error. In my opinion, replacing a knife that was bent, broken or chipped by user stupidity is the exact opposite of "dropping the ball".
The 5 isn't really the hardcore chopping/splitting knife. Chopping? Get the 9. Batoning? Get a 2 or just a hatchet.
We need more threads of praise here, get some dirt time, guys!
Sorry, but do you own a mac or other apple products by any chance? I did that to a knife and it worked just fine for 5 more years until someone snapped the tip off.
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nope, if anything it would make it a bit tougher. consider it survival practice. fixing it
go slow, and light. keep the edge supported. work in from the sides and back. not just a couple big blows. now, if that doesn't make you happy, KaBar will LIKELY trade you same for same. most companies aren't going to swap models.
just buy a bk2 as well
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Maybe it has to do with the season. It's spring time, and people are getting out and using their knives.
With extended use will come the eventual realization: no knife edge is impregnable to damage, especially when you're pounding it with a heavy stick.
Knots happen. Luckily, recourse exists afterwards, especially with an outfit like Ka-Bar.
Thanks. Nuff said.
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Becker/Kabar knives are Knives, not sledgehammers. If you have noticed, most of the complaints are from damage after hitting knots, rocks, batonning with poor technique, etc. Although Becker/Kabar knives are TOUGH as anvils, their edges will fail when constant batonning/chopping meets poor technique. If you are to take risks with your knife, you MUST live with the rewards and regrets.
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I actually edited. Moose and I were having a conversation at the time, and he made a good point.
"Working man's knife" may not be the best word choice. It's not about price.
The price point may not be much to some, but it may be a lot to others.
Regardless, people who spend money on Beckers have every right to expect a quality knife.
However, let me rephrase as "working tool." A working tool, especially a contact tool, is going to suffer damage. That's the nature of the game.
In my family growing up, you simply took care of such things. You filed, you stoned, you sharpened. Whether it was an axe, a knife, a chainsaw blade, whatever.
I still sharpen all of the above. I sharpen my lawnmower blade. I sharpen my working machetes with a file. And so on.
As far as what a quality working tool should manage, there are both reasonable and unreasonable expectations.
I personally would not expect the thinner BK-5 to handle a deer antler without chipping. Have you ever see two bucks fight? Deer antler is tough.
However, a 2" pine sapling branch? Absolutely. Send it back and let Ka-Bar take care of you.
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we see edge rolls alllllll the time over at himalayan imports forum. the standard solution is hammer and steel... straighten the edge, and maybe touch up with a stone. back to work. what one expects to do with a field tool.
typically, such damage is caused by rocks, nails, and knots. clear wood should not do that... and i fixed and rolled, and fixed and rolled again, in clear wood, so sending back then makes sense. got nothing to lose trying to fix it first, and everything to gain.
also, picture of this wood? that would be grand...
typically, such damage is caused by rocks, nails, and knots. clear wood should not do that... and i fixed and rolled, and fixed and rolled again, in clear wood, so sending back then makes sense. got nothing to lose trying to fix it first, and everything to gain.
also, picture of this wood? that would be grand...
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You're not hitting it hard enough. 
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My BK2 and BK9 come tomorrow. Should be a short work day and when I get home I'm going to play, take pictures, and write up a review. Then you can point the newbies in a spot for an out-of-box review.
BUT FOR NOW! My CSI analysis: This, more or less.
To cause that kind of damage seems like the blade would have had to have been bent. Like it was jammed in a vise then taken out by bending it sideways until it came loose. I'm looking at the edge here, and the edge looks good. If you hit a knot, you're going to hit it with the blade edge and lose some of that in dulling, and small bending before you get a roll on that scale. (I'm a novice, so an expert can chime in and trump my noobish analysis) It may also have been that you were using a huge baton. But I also have to think that you said a 2 inch sapling. Nothing that small is likely to have a knot big or angry enough to worry about. (again, could be wrong)
Here's what gets me though, and why I call this my CSI analysis: If you look above the big bend on the blade, you can see that this blade has done this before. BUT (and here's where it gets tricky) I see at least 2 maybe 3 other places in one of these pictures, where the blade is bent in a similar pattern: it's all bent to the left. At this point, I mean. I don't know. It could be technique, something odd in the way you baton. It could be a combination of things. I'm just trying to figure it out fer myself so I don't do that when I head out to test tomorrow. make sure you're pulling the blade straight out, not pulling to the left as you remove it from anything that may be hard.
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I do like Bladite's advice of at least trying a self repair (hammer and steel). A pic of the ding already exists as proof, and the OP might learn some maintenance skills in the process. A knife means more to me after I've used it a while and put a few dings in it.
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Is Becker\Kabar pounding these knives to hell then sending them out to customers ? I believe that it's quite the opposite. If I drove a mini van at it's maximum speed on a hair pin race track and rolled it, I wouldn't send it back to Chrysler on a flat bed for a replacement, complaining that it failed. I have also hacked down saplings and battoned with my Mag Camp. I did this with the knowledge that it was not primarily designed for this use. If I screw it up, too bad for me as I know better. There are many other Beckers\Kabars designed for this type of use. Most of us know that from the get go. Nothing is perfect and everything has its inherent limits. It's up to me to use common sense and discretion of tool use.
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I have a bk 5. I love the bk5. I wouldn't use it to baton anything. I use the right tool for the right job. If and when I break something because Im using it beyond the scope of its creation, I sure as hell don't bitch about it in a public forum and blame the manufacturer, expecting a new one that I can break and return shortly. Im sure that when you get your free bk 2, something will happen to that one, too. Hey, just let us know when you go thru a dozen knives or so which knife ended up taking the most of your abuse, wont you? I would bet that it was something that said "Becker" on it. I hope to hell good folks like Ethan and Jeff Randall look at these spoiled children who broke their knives by abuse are able to use it for entertainment purposes and get a laugh out of you. Shit, if I had a kid who broke his knife using it like a retard, I sure as hell wouldn't let him send it back for a freebee. But hey, who is teaching responsibility nowadays? ...........or how to use a knife like it was designed to be used. I challenge you to come up with a valid arguement to refute my point that you are abusing a BK5, and that you are not a spoiled person for asking for new knives every time you break one.
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Ease up. Take a deep breath between sentences. He brought this up for discussion, and he doesn't need insults.
We are supposed to be friends here.