Beckers at Walmart

[Rumbrave]

Wal-mart is a unethical and immoral company and should not be allowed in your community they put hundreds of local business owners out of business and really could care less about people in general or their wellbeing. you need to watch a documentary called the "high cost of low prices".still waiting for my bk2 to be delivered I CAN'T WAIT TO PUT IT TO USE! i work on a farm and i am dieing to see how well it holds up. i will most definately be posting pics of all the pumpkins i get to cut with it!

 

[Sam Hell]

I worked at hellmart graveyard shift...and they knew that I was going to have to take time off for the birth of my son....they fired me for no reason a week before his due date. Limey bastards. so yep I know of that place....It would be cool to find the bks easily accessable even there though.

 

[BagofDeadCats]

+1billion.

and they don't help the local economy, they destroy the local economy. walmart stores create a region of walmart dependent, minimum wage jobs, with any money in salaries respent AT walmart, and any profit that could actually help the local economy shipped out of area. they ruin local and regional stores/economies. they suck. bad. medium term, long term. for the entire country. ban them. wait, are they members here? can we invite them to join BF and THEN ban them?

First off I would like to say my wife works for a walmart neighborhood market, has been promoted 4 times in the last year, and definatley does NOT make minimum wage...in fact, she didn't even start at minimum wage(as a part-time cashier)! Second id rather have someone work at the "dismal economy abyss" that is wal-mart than re-apply for their third 6-Month extension from unemployment! you guys think thats good for the economy? If you don't like it don't shop there, if you think they treat employees bad then don't work there, but last I recall no walmart has ever pushed anybody's grandmother down a flight of stairs...Just saying, ez with all the hate.
And as far as "helping the community" my wife just recently hand delivered over $14,000 to a local childrens hospital...from where you might ask? A walmart fundraiser!! and thing like this happen at least once a month. Sorry for my rant, It just seems like people only wanna talk about the bad...kinda depressing.


have a nice day

 

[scouter27]

Wal-mart is a unethical and immoral company and should not be allowed in your community they put hundreds of local business owners out of business and really could care less about people in general or their wellbeing. you need to watch a documentary called the "high cost of low prices".still waiting for my bk2 to be delivered I CAN'T WAIT TO PUT IT TO USE! i work on a farm and i am dieing to see how well it holds up. i will most definately be posting pics of all the pumpkins i get to cut with it!

I checked out the website associated with the movie (http://www.walmartmovie.com/facts.php) and I can say for sure that the facts stated here are skewed. I am by no means an expert at statistics, but I did take the course and passed. Statistics, like those linked, can tell whatever story you choose to arrange them into. For example:

In 2004, a study released the UC Berkeley Labor Center found that "reliance by Wal-Mart workers on public assistance programs in California comes at a cost to taxpayers of an estimated $86 million annually; this is comprised of $32 million in health related expenses and $54 million in other assistance."

Wal-Mart dismisses the findings of the UC Berkeley study, "Hidden Costs of Wal-Mart Jobs," as a "union hit piece." However, text from Wal-Mart's own internal memo substantially corroborates their findings.

An excerpt from the memo states:
"We also have a significant number of Associates and their children who receive health insurance through public-assistance programs. Five percent of our Associates are on Medicaid compared to an average for national employers of 4 percent. Twenty-seven percent of Associates' children are on such programs, compared to a national average of 22 percent (Exhibit 5). In total, 46 percent of Associates' children are either on Medicaid or are uninsured."

I'm not arguing that this isn't a bad, bad thing. The problem though, the average (wrong term, use of mode, or most frequently occurring) tax bracket for a Walmart employee is most likely optimal for qualifying for government assistance programs. Because of that, we see a national average including everyone from the incredibly wealthy to the destitute with the Walmart section being more toward that latter. This skews the results. We would need to look at the numbers for people in the same income level as a typical Walmart employee.

It's also unclear here what this "internal memo" was for and how the writer came across it. It could have been intended to convince Walmart that they need to get these people insurance.

Anyway, I noticed this several times there, and I'm really not surprised. People misuse statistics to further their own ends. I'm ok with this, but I know it when I see it, sometimes at least.

 

[russianpolander]

And if they can find someone who will make it cheaper, you will be.

I've read case studies where Company A makes "Product A" and sells their product to a number of customers. Wal-Mart strikes a deal with them, production increases and life is good. However, 80% of what Company A produces is now sold to Wal-Mart. They probably have to drop other customers to accommodate Wal-Mart's orders.

Wal-Mart then tells Company A they'd like a price reduction, for which Company A will barely make profit. Wal-Mart can always find another vendor. Company A risks losing 80% of their business if they refuse Wal-Mart's demands. This continues until they go out of business. Wal-Mart moves on.

Not saying this has/ will happen to your company. Just saying they aren't buying because they want to create US jobs.

I don't hate the idea of a large company like Wal-Mart, but I don't care for a lot of their business practices.

All that being said, I don't think we'll ever see Beckers on the shelves at Wal-Mart

I agree with this and i'm not a fan of their practices either , just happy to have work.

 

[Tommythewho]

If we could get Walmart to sell Cols Steel knives the bitching could go on for 12 pages

 

[CCMI]

If we could get Walmart to sell Cols Steel knives the bitching could go on for 12 pages

Haha, this made me laugh.

I hope I don't come across as 'bitching'. To be honest I don't hate Wal-Mart, I rarely even think of it. I just don't agree with some of the ways they treat their employees and suppliers. Therefore I prefer not to spend money there (not that I never have or never will).

Costco is a company that also tries to offer low prices, but treat their employees drastically different (higher than average wages, group health for part-time employees, etc..)

Edit: I'd love to see Beckers at Costco.... 2-Pack of Machaxen? Family Pack of Tweeners? YES PLEASE!

 

[elof_alv]

Well, down here it is a bit different.
I have seen a BK7 on a shelf in store called 'King of Knives' - kitchen cutlery about 60%, sharpeners and accessories 20%, kitchen utensils 10%, knives - SAKs, Muela, Opinel, 'Spiderco', Buck, Ka-bar and some Chinese/Taiwanese made around 10%. The price on BK7 was $279! Guess they have a lot of sales...
Of course you can pick BK7 online below $100 mark online, but you should get the picture of how fortunate you are in your corner of the world...

 

[thatotherguy]

Thanks for the reality shot, brother. We needed that. (no sarcasm intended)

 

[Hunter Sharp]

I don't really give a crap.

 

[hughewil]

If we could get Walmart to sell Cols Steel knives the bitching could go on for 12 pages

They do sell cold steel both knives and hawks, search their site. They also have SOG, Spyderco, Ka-bar, Buck and Kershaw.

I got a SOG fasthawk from my local store at Christmas time.

 

[Gerry.GEG]

problem is, the rhetoric against wallyworld has some validity, Although, I'm here to tell you that the only people who tend to bad mouth them are those that make enough money to shop elsewhere. I'm in that category now but they were a lifesaver when I made $12K/year in the AirForce and while living in a little shithole in AR the downtown businesses wanted to screw service members.

While I agree with what many say about them, I still contend it's usually the ones with enough resources to have that luxury. I include myself in that class now.

Just say'n.

 

[CCMI]

They do sell cold steel both knives and hawks, search their site. They also have SOG, Spyderco, Ka-bar, Buck and Kershaw.

I got a SOG fasthawk from my local store at Christmas time.

Man the Wal-Mart's in my area suck. The only things I've ever seen is el cheapo folders in the blister pack and giant Winchester bowies.

 

[Reasoned1]

I LOVE Walmart! There are many things I don't buy at Walmart--usually things of finer quality--but they're definitely the place to go for sundries and generally good prices. Only fools who don't respect the fact that a business like Walmart is only successful because it satisfies the masses' wants and needs criticize it. Furthermore, those who are stupid enough and immoral enough to recommend forcing Walmart out of business for engaging in a purely voluntaristic relationship with its customers AND employees are nothing better than a bunch of Obama-loving, communist sympathizers and a big part of the reason this country is going down the tubes. On top of that, experience proves most of you Walmart-haters are just as hypocritical as you are stupid.

 

[Rumbrave]

Wal-Mart currently faces lawsuits in thirty-one different States for wage and hour abuses potentially involving hundreds of thousand workers.http://www.walmartmovie.com/facts.php you should read more before you start throwing out insults. i am not an obama supporter, i do not shop at walmart for ANYTHING i support the local businesses in my town. if you really knew anything about what has caused so many problems in our country you would realize it is big businesses like walmart that are causing them by setting up shop in small towns and wiping out the local economies, part of the problem is on the individual who chooses to go to walmart to save a buck instead of going to a local store that has been there for 20 yrs. SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS NOT WALMART. THE LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS FRIENDS AND FAMILY. BY SUPPORTING BIG BUSINESS YOU ARE THE OBAMA LOVING COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZER AND A BIG PART OF WHY OUR COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE TUBES

I LOVE Walmart! There are many things I don't buy at Walmart--usually things of finer quality--but they're definitely the place to go for sundries and generally good prices. Only fools who don't respect the fact that a business like Walmart is only successful because it satisfies the masses' wants and needs criticize it. Furthermore, those who are stupid enough and immoral enough to recommend forcing Walmart out of business for engaging in a purely voluntaristic relationship with its customers AND employees are nothing better than a bunch of Obama-loving, communist sympathizers and a big part of the reason this country is going down the tubes. On top of that, experience proves most of you Walmart-haters are just as hypocritical as you are stupid.

 

[CCMI]

I LOVE Walmart! There are many things I don't buy at Walmart--usually things of finer quality--but they're definitely the place to go for sundries and generally good prices. Only fools who don't respect the fact that a business like Walmart is only successful because it satisfies the masses' wants and needs criticize it. Furthermore, those who are stupid enough and immoral enough to recommend forcing Walmart out of business for engaging in a purely voluntaristic relationship with its customers AND employees are nothing better than a bunch of Obama-loving, communist sympathizers and a big part of the reason this country is going down the tubes. On top of that, experience proves most of you Walmart-haters are just as hypocritical as you are stupid.

Thanks for the unintelligent rant. You're welcome to your opinion and certainly free to shop at Wal-Mart.

However, your view that "hating Wal-Mart" = "Obama Lover" is ridiculous. And that's coming from someone who doesn't hate Wal-Mart or care for Obama.

I'm done with this thread.

 

[AfghanWarrior]

If we could get Walmart to sell Cols Steel knives the bitching could go on for 12 pages

Why ChinaMart selling ChinaSteel?

 

[Esav Benyamin]

We have a Political Arena for political discussions. We do not allow political discussions outside that forum. This topic has skirted the rule, as it obviously would, but now we have open politicking, ranting, and insults tossed around. This thread is closed.

 

[Moosez45]

Thanks Esav.

Ya'll know better.

Moose