Being Cheap didn't work. Need Advice.

Ebbtide said:
James Ray, the top knife is a Helle Jegermester 5" Sandvick SS blade about 1/8" thick. It is my camp cooker and marshmallow stick pointer.
Here it is on kitchen duty...chile...yum:D
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The slip joint is a Queen D2 canoe.
It looks different 'cause I sanded the blade etch off ;)
They both came in around $50 (each)
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Ahhh, it is a scandi grind... That is why I did not reconize it! The other pic does not show the grind at all! Very nice knife... I have to get a Queen canoe some time...They have such a DIFFERENT look to them!
 
Paul1967 said:
One can break any knife if they work at it hard enough regardless of price.
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Batoning in the style described in the above is done all the time with 1/16" puukko styled knives. It doesn't take really thick and heavy ground blades. The only way you should be able to induce the failure type in the picture would be if you tried to chisel cut a large heavy knot and hit the spine at an oblique angle and torqued the edge, you would also be using fairly heavy impacts.

-Cliff
 
Can someone explain the proper technique of batonning a little bit more detailed.
 
jujawa said:
Can someone explain the proper technique of batonning a little bit more detailed.
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1) place knife across top of wood

2) hit knife with baton

Repeat #2 until wood is split. Try to hit the knife close to perpendicular to minimize twisting and avoid pounding on the very tip of the knife if possible.

In terms of method, the only real refinement is to press down hard on the handle if you can because otherwise you will just drive the tip of the blade down which will prevent batoning once the angle gets high.

The most important aspects in terms of efficiency is to select where you try to split the wood, don't attempt to chisel cut through knots, if you have to cut knots, split them, most woods can be split decently if you select the right spot, except for ones with a run of ring knots.

If this is the case then you have no real choice except to put the blade in the wood, take a good heavy baton and beat that knife like it owes you money.

-Cliff
 
Update:
Benchmade emailed me back right away saying that they would replace the knife. They haven't seen a pic though. I sent it back this morning. I'll keep you posted.

I emailed "swamp rat" early yesterday morning. They haven't responded so far in 2 full business days. I asked when they could ship a "howling rat". I think if they haven't responded to the email in 2 days that they probably won't be able to ship a blade for quite a while. I'll keep you posted.

I will give them more time to respond as it seems like they have a good blade at a fair price.

I am pleased with Benchmade's immediate response. I may choose on of their blades to do the job. The problem is that with my lack of technical knowledge and their abundance of blades available it may be hard to choose.

Also, I don't know what characteristics to look for in a fixed blade that is ~5" and can tolerate some abuse around the camp site.

Thanks for all the help and education.

Jeff
 
I would suggest posting on the "Rat Chat" at Swamprat's site. There will be alot of good answers to your questions. Perhaps with all the business of Blade Show, They havent had a chance to answer the emails. They are a much smaller company than Benchmade, and deal in much less volume, so you dont have someone right there to instantly return emails. If you ask over on Rat Chat, People will most likely be able to tell you how long they had to wait, or if they are available. :)
 
jefffoxsr said:
Update:
I emailed "swamp rat" early yesterday morning. They haven't responded so far in 2 full business days. I asked when they could ship a "howling rat". I think if they haven't responded to the email in 2 days that they probably won't be able to ship a blade for quite a while. I'll keep you posted.
Jeff
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You may duplicate your question on Swamp Rat Forum here. It usually helps. But you should be ready to wait for your knife.

Model T from Busse company store will come much faster. I call Busse, gave them my number to call back, Busse Company Store called me in few minutes and on second day I had my knife with INFI steel by USPS Priority mail. It costs 187 plus S&H

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Thanks, Vassili.
 
If you decide to go with another benchmade, try to get one in M2 steel. They seem to be a fair bit more durable than Benchmade's stainless steel blades. The Nimravous is available in M2 and readily available. My personal opinion though, if you want to spend under 200 on peace of mind, get the Model T from the Busse company store and never worry about it breaking. They don't come with a sheath but that's easy enough to take care of.
 
I still haven't heard from swamp rat. I was going to get the Becker Companion until I saw that Ritter is coming out with his own version which is quite similar to the companion. I have a Ritter mini and am very happy with it. Maybe I'll wait.

It looks like the Ritter will be a little longer. Is that the only difference?
If so, then maybe I'll get the Becker.
 
Hi

not meaning to jack someone's thread, but this caught my eye...

but I can't find it on Busse's website...

under the "knives" link, there seems to be only two models...



nozh2002 said:
You may duplicate your question on Swamp Rat Forum here. It usually helps. But you should be ready to wait for your knife.

Model T from Busse company store will come much faster. I call Busse, gave them my number to call back, Busse Company Store called me in few minutes and on second day I had my knife with INFI steel by USPS Priority mail. It costs 187 plus S&H

Busse-MSMT-09.jpg


Thanks, Vassili.
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