Benchmade 737 Aileron

[Petunia D. Feeble]

Benchmade's new crud collector:

So now we have an abrasive surface in the cutting path... This is, from what I gather, for the "Tarani Two-Handed Opening Technique."

Let me preface this diatribe by stating that I'm not a trained edged weapon specialist or combatant and I don't have any experience with Mr. Tarani himself.

Most of the so called edged weapon training I've seen from these boutique schools tend to ignore things like physics or inertia. They exist to fight some imaginary foe who stops moving when they meet resistance or will fall to the ground with superficial cuts.

I couldn't find a video of the two-handed opening technique(which I imagine is just a pinch opening), but I did find this photo:

Which appears to show Mr. Tarani defending himself with very little purchase on the karambit. He has one finger through the hole, securing the knife, but the entire handle extended beyond his finger. So either he's the HULK or that thing's going to spin freely on that finger.

A caption for the photo mentioned the use of a whipping cut for defense. So, unless this blade is both very heavy and very sharp(neither of which is generally true for a karambit), he's showing them how to "defend" themselves with a superficial wound. It's just not going to do much damage.

So, to sum up, this seems to be, to my uneducated and prematurely judgemental perspective, a knife designed for a McMartial-Art with some gimmicky abbrasive patches on the blade for a newly trademarked, centuries old opening technique and will inevitably gather crud if you actually use it to cut something. PASS.

 

[Gravy]

Just saw this on their Instagram, looks gimmicky as hell to me.

YMMV.

Edit: Also just noticed that you can't get the black blade with out serrations. I guess it's just more tactical that way?

 

[stonproject]

I feel like benchmade has mostly been missing the mark lately

 

[Petunia D. Feeble]

I feel like benchmade has mostly been missing the mark lately

After the overwhelming success of the Bugout I think they can afford some silliness. I'm sure there's a lot of slightly more respectable mall ninjas out there that will jump all over this thing. Same folks that pay for the classes.

 

[TheEdge01]

I give them an A for innovation. I’m a Benchmade fan but this thing will probably retail for around 180-190 dollars. That is a tad more than I’m willing to shovel out for this one. Keep em coming Benchmade, maybe the next one will be more appealing to the “not so tacti-cool crowd”.

 

[Pilsner]

I feel like benchmade has mostly been missing the mark lately

I’d say the Crooked River is a recent ‘win’. But this thing? Meh.

 

[Accelerator]

I’m sure there are customers who will buy this, but really, the only words that come to mind is.....better luck next time.

Completely underwhelmed.

 

[b00n]

Lame. Make it cutouts and you have a folding cheese grater.

 

[Hackenslash]

But does it have a hollow handle for compass, fire starter and poop?

 

[GB940Rookie]

Come back to us
Warren Osborne

 

[Pilsner]

Come back to us
Warren Osborne

And McHenry & Williams.

And Shane Sibert.

 

[b00n]

I give them an A for innovation.

Innovating what? Square milling?

 

[halden.doerge]

 

[halden.doerge]

I’m sure there are customers who will buy this, but really, the only words that come to mind is.....better luck next time.

Completely underwhelmed.

Underwhelmed? No way. More like overwhelmed with the complete and total non-necessity of this utter and complete terribleness.

Bad Benchmade. Bad. Bad.

 

[Pilsner]

Underwhelmed? No way. More like overwhelmed with the complete and total non-necessity of this utter and complete terribleness.

Bad Benchmade. Bad. Bad.

Needs more texturing.

 

[Lapedog]

Benchmade's new crud collector:

So now we have an abrasive surface in the cutting path... This is, from what I gather, for the "Tarani Two-Handed Opening Technique."

Let me preface this diatribe by stating that I'm not a trained edged weapon specialist or combatant and I don't have any experience with Mr. Tarani himself.

Most of the so called edged weapon training I've seen from these boutique schools tend to ignore things like physics or inertia. They exist to fight some imaginary foe who stops moving when they meet resistance or will fall to the ground with superficial cuts.

I couldn't find a video of the two-handed opening technique(which I imagine is just a pinch opening), but I did find this photo:

Which appears to show Mr. Tarani defending himself with very little purchase on the karambit. He has one finger through the hole, securing the knife, but the entire handle extended beyond his finger. So either he's the HULK or that thing's going to spin freely on that finger.

A caption for the photo mentioned the use of a whipping cut for defense. So, unless this blade is both very heavy and very sharp(neither of which is generally true for a karambit), he's showing them how to "defend" themselves with a superficial wound. It's just not going to do much damage.

So, to sum up, this seems to be, to my uneducated and prematurely judgemental perspective, a knife designed for a McMartial-Art with some gimmicky abbrasive patches on the blade for a newly trademarked, centuries old opening technique and will inevitably gather crud if you actually use it to cut something. PASS.

Here, the video posted in post number 15 in this thread shows Tarani explaining the 2 hand open method. (Oooo so elite!)
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/new-black-class-folder.1603674/#post-18343799

As I said in another thread about this knife folding knives are not ideal for self defense even if you open them with three hands. The only thing that can make a folder BARELY adequate for self defense is including a wave on it imho. (Of which I believe the peg style wave on the Spydie Pikal is the most effective at working every single time.)

To not include a wave or wave or a wave substitute on a “defensive” folder imho is straight up negligent. Alas there are many people who buy into what they are told by these trainers. As you mentioned that whole fighting with a karambit secured by one finger looks like purely asking for it. It being a broken finger.

 

[KingMC]

Let's be honest here: how often do people using knives with saber grinds find themselves cutting something that is dragging along the flats above the bevel? Take a look at a coated saber-grind and find all the wear spots, you'll notice most of the wear is either immediately behind the edge or directly on the shoulder between the bevel and the flat; the amount of contact the flat makes on almost every texture of material one would cut with a knife is minimal to non-existent. Having texture on the flat is going to do almost nothing to impede the cutting ability of this knife, especially considering what it's designed to be good at.

Sure, it's gimmicky as hell and seems redundant giving the supplied hole one can also use to open the blade, but to think that texture will impede any normal usage a buyer might put it through is nonsense.

 

[Lapedog]

Let's be honest here: how often do people using knives with saber grinds find themselves cutting something that is dragging along the flats above the bevel? Take a look at a coated saber-grind and find all the wear spots, you'll notice most of the wear is either immediately behind the edge or directly on the shoulder between the bevel and the flat; the amount of contact the flat makes on almost every texture of material one would cut with a knife is minimal to non-existent. Having texture on the flat is going to do almost nothing to impede the cutting ability of this knife, especially considering what it's designed to be good at.

Sure, it's gimmicky as hell and seems redundant giving the supplied hole one can also use to open the blade, but to think that texture will impede any normal usage a buyer might put it through is nonsense.

Depends. Not all materials will split into a V shape when cut into. i think alot of them will push back in against either side of the knife and thus will make contact with the texture.

I think a wide fuller under the spine would have been a better option for a surface to get a purchase on for two handed openings.

 

[sXePhenomenal]

Man if this isn’t ugly and dumb idk what is

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Benchmade's new crud collector:

So now we have an abrasive surface in the cutting path... This is, from what I gather, for the "Tarani Two-Handed Opening Technique."

Let me preface this diatribe by stating that I'm not a trained edged weapon specialist or combatant and I don't have any experience with Mr. Tarani himself.

Most of the so called edged weapon training I've seen from these boutique schools tend to ignore things like physics or inertia. They exist to fight some imaginary foe who stops moving when they meet resistance or will fall to the ground with superficial cuts.

I couldn't find a video of the two-handed opening technique(which I imagine is just a pinch opening), but I did find this photo:

Which appears to show Mr. Tarani defending himself with very little purchase on the karambit. He has one finger through the hole, securing the knife, but the entire handle extended beyond his finger. So either he's the HULK or that thing's going to spin freely on that finger.

A caption for the photo mentioned the use of a whipping cut for defense. So, unless this blade is both very heavy and very sharp(neither of which is generally true for a karambit), he's showing them how to "defend" themselves with a superficial wound. It's just not going to do much damage.

So, to sum up, this seems to be, to my uneducated and prematurely judgemental perspective, a knife designed for a McMartial-Art with some gimmicky abbrasive patches on the blade for a newly trademarked, centuries old opening technique and will inevitably gather crud if you actually use it to cut something. PASS.

The knife may not appeal to any of us but Steve Tarani is a serious operator.

Tarani graduated from Bahala Na, which I also attended. He's also spent time I believe in Indonesia training and discovering different hand to hand weapons.