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T.L.E. Sharp said:
It's an Escrima school. Same sort of nonsense. They teach you to disarm people... who only fight with a single limb and have the grip strength of a toddler.

They always lose me with the disarm techniques. Have the guy death grip the blade and start kicking you in the balls. NOW try to get it out of his hand.
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Generally I am very dubious of fighting schools where it looks like two kids in a middle school yard showing off what amazing fighters they are.

“Throw a punch slowly at me bro. Woah! Not so fast!” “Ok when they do this you do this! Pssshaw! Then one of these! Hiyah! You’re such a pussy bro, unlike me.”

Of course the elbow to the gut then pivoting the forearm up and down to chain unlimited shots from the face to the balls always works.
 
Guys clearly you all are just crap at disarming people death-gripping blades while they try to gut you. It's actually been done successfully on many occasions, just watch Under Siege, then try telling me it can't be done flawlessly.
 
Mick_1KRR said:
Guys clearly you all are just crap at disarming people death-gripping blades while they try to gut you. It's actually been done successfully on many occasions, just watch Under Siege, then try telling me it can't be done flawlessly.
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I actually do it all the time. Most of my early knife collection came from disarming attackers with good taste.
 
What kind of limp-wristed "serious operator" can't whip a frigging AXIS lock knife open with a wrist flick or using the thumb stud? It's not like it's a Buck 110 or anything.
 
Planterz said:
What kind of limp-wristed "serious operator" can't whip a frigging AXIS lock knife open with a wrist flick or using the thumb stud? It's not like it's a Buck 110 or anything.
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But that’s not highlighting the feature! Without that laz0r etched tread the knife isn’t special!

I honestly don’t get why a fuller couldn’t provide the same (or better) traction.
 
Mick_1KRR said:
Guys clearly you all are just crap at disarming people death-gripping blades while they try to gut you. It's actually been done successfully on many occasions, just watch Under Siege, then try telling me it can't be done flawlessly.
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Get back in the kitchen Ryback! :D:p
 
b00n said:
Get back in the kitchen Ryback! :D:p
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Laser etched design. I don't think it will collect as much gunk as the pics look. The pics make it look like a file knife.
Saving judgement till some are out there.
 
Some of the disarming techniques could work, because when you seriously twist someone's arm, they lose almost all their grip on what they were holding. Some of the stuff shown in the Benchmade 'trailer' just looks too flashy, though. Maybe the video does it a disservice though. It is, after all, just a commercial for a knife with a gimmick.

I used to practice some HEMA (Historic European Martial Arts) a long time ago. I wasn't very good at it, but it did teach (among many things) how to defend against attacks with a blade. It also teaches you the limitations of such a situation and why you should avoid it. After all, daggers were never a primary weapon for a reason. It always surprises me how much of these 'martial arts' courses with knives are based in the USA, a country known for its' wide availability of firearms.
 
Lodd said:
It always surprises me how much of these 'martial arts' courses with knives are based in the USA, a country known for its' wide availability of firearms.
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You seem to be under the impression that everybody in the US is packing heat (carrying a gun). Some states and some local jurisdictions don't allow carry of firearms. Even within states that allow carry, there are certain places that may restrict carry of guns. Schools, government buildings, national parks, restaurants that serve alcohol/bars, etc. Also, the actual percentage of people that carry a gun (legally or illegally, openly or concealed) is really quite small; the vast majority of people you see aren't armed with a gun.

It's likely that a vast majority of people that train in martial arts so they can defend themselves without a gun also are those that can and do carry a gun. Or at least wish they could at all times, but they're unable to because of the afore mentioned reasons. A knife (or kubaton or bare hands or whatever) can go places a gun can't. That's why these schools exist and people attend them.
 
Makael said:
Laser etched design. I don't think it will collect as much gunk as the pics look. The pics make it look like a file knife.
Saving judgement till some are out there.
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I agree, I'll look forward to seeing one in person or at least better pictures. The knife at least looks like it will be good int the hand.
 
Planterz said:
You seem to be under the impression that everybody in the US is packing heat (carrying a gun). Some states and some local jurisdictions don't allow carry of firearms. Even within states that allow carry, there are certain places that may restrict carry of guns. Schools, government buildings, national parks, restaurants that serve alcohol/bars, etc. Also, the actual percentage of people that carry a gun (legally or illegally, openly or concealed) is really quite small; the vast majority of people you see aren't armed with a gun.

It's likely that a vast majority of people that train in martial arts so they can defend themselves without a gun also are those that can and do carry a gun. Or at least wish they could at all times, but they're unable to because of the afore mentioned reasons. A knife (or kubaton or bare hands or whatever) can go places a gun can't. That's why these schools exist and people attend them.
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You're probably right that my perception (from my comfy chair across the pond) of how many people actually carry a firearm in the USA is horribly wrong. Isn't it true however, that gun related crimes are relatively high in the USA? Or is that a misperception as well? (It doesn't help that gun laws/restriction seem to be a highly controversial and polarizing issue from what I pick up form social media*).

I think it's fair to say that carrying any kind of weapon is a conscious decision on the part of the person who carries it. As you point out, sometimes not carrying weapons is a conscious decision as well (for example if someone gave their self-defense some thought and decided they don't want to use lethal force anyway).

It just still surprises me that so many people, having decided to carry a weapon of some kind and having a range of available options to choose from, elect to pick a knife as their weapon. Where is the benefit/utility in that? I mean, a knife is one of the most useful tools for a lot of other situations, but I just don't see the role in self-defense in modern times. I suppose this surprise is equally applicable in all parts of the world, not just for the USA.


* I explicitly do not want to get into this discussion in this topic, I am just genuinely trying to learn something.
 
The two handed opening method is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen. In a high stress situation it seems like a great way to stab yourself directly in the palm. A flipper or wave would be a million times easier, and also actually more functional by not requiring two hands to open.

In my eyes this knife is just a tactical cheese grater. The handle pattern is cool, though, it reminds me of a sunburst pattern, and those are neat.
 
This knife is gimmicky at best. If it were released without the "two hand tactical deployment" at a lesser price or with materials that matched the price it might be a decent edition to the black class.

S30v and G10 for $200. That just doesn't add up these days.
 
Self defence notwithstanding, I would choose the Loco or Mini Loco over this, even though they really don't interest me either.
 
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