Benchmade Adamas realization

jux t said:
This image is from a thread here, showing side by side differences in lock engagement:View attachment 2115484
I wonder if some have lock bars which engage even further back. If so, maybe that could account for some of the reports?
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That's my pic. The OD Mini is from 7/29/22. The black Mini is very early, being from 5/26/21. I did wonder if Benchmade made a change or if it was just variance or tolerance stacking. I will say both knives have been great and withstand moderate spine whacks just fine. Also the engagement on the black Mini Adamas is very similar to many of my other Benchmade knives so I don't think it's an issue. Here's the black Mini next to a 940. Lockbar engagement is very similar.
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Oh and the difference in engagement between the two Mini Adamas models above is due solely to the cut of the tang. I swapped blades to see what would happen and the FDE blade definitely let's the lockbar engage further on both knives.
 
MolokaiRider said:
I'm with ya.

I am still thinking that the knife is going to perform just fine.

Whacking the thing the spine is not really something I do on any of my folders. As long as the Adamas stays locked using it under what I consider normal use by just cutting stuff I consider it fine.

Its still too early for me to tell, but so far it's worked fine.

Cut a few thick zip ties, levered some thorns out of boots, whacked a couple of small branches, cut down three shipping boxes, cut open bundles of harvest bags, and cut tangled drip line from the bush hog.

No problems
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What?! UNPOSSIBLE.
 
Delta-v said:
In the name of science, I just ordered a new full size Adamas so I can continue my investigation of lockbar engagement. Yeah, science made me do it.
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Don’t forget to take a full video of the whole affair, edit it with corny effects and horrible background music rap, plaster it all over every social media platform, and beg shamelessly for likes and subscribes. For science.
 
This carries me back to a recent discussion in another thread, and reinforces my dislike for "torture testing" knives. To me testing a folding knife by batonning or spine whacks is subjecting the knife to forces and stresses that it would never see in normal knife use. The original intent of a lockback design is to prevent the knife from accidentally closing on your fingers while working with the tip or with a piercing or stabbing motion. Now I could set off a hand grenade beside my knife and the lock may fail, and that is no big deal because the knife was not designed to withstand a grenade blast. Same applies to spine whacks and batonning, it was not designed for that. Now if you say you were trying to pierce some cardboard or plastic packaging and the lock failed and it closed on your fingers, then I would agree that is a fail, but I haven't heard of a single case of that happening. I have 5 Benchmade Axis lock knives that I have used a bunch over the years and have never had a lock or a spring fail, and have no reason to doubt them over any other knife design I own for their intended purposes
 
MolokaiRider said:
Cut four of these small trees on a farm trail to make way for a larger piece of equipment.

Despite hacking away, no lock disengagement.

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For the record, this example and result is absolutely more relevant and valid to me than "I had two separate knives fail, and so did my buddies! This knife is the worst designed knife eV4r!!!!!". Looks like an Adamas, being handled correctly, standing up to "hard use" to me. Good going, man. :thumbsup:
 
PenguinsRcool2 said:
I have now owned 2 adamas’s and 1 mini adamas. I love what these knives tried to be. But all 3 of them, had lock failure. The first one i noticed while cutting a plastic band on a pallet of brick at work, i cut through it with some force, as they are hard af to cut, amd the adamas cutting profile isnt good. The blade somehow came out of the lock and clipped the corner of my finger. So i locked it back up and lightly tapped the spine, lock failed again. I returned it to benchmade got credit bought another, knowingly i got it, and battoned a piece of wood for my smoker, this wood i could split with a pencil, its stupid dry and some sort of incredibly weak pine about 2” diameter, lock failed. Sent it back they “fixed it” failed again. Sometime later bought a mini adamas used, guy said he never really used it. I honestly thought it wouldnt fail aftwr about a week of use i was using the spine with the knife open to pry open a bin of hydrualic cement with a plastic paint can cap kinda thing… almost no pressure was put on it, it failed…
Morale of the story this knife series is the worst knife series of all time, perhaps the worst folding knife ever made. Every single person i know or have seen on social media used one, it fails. It isnt safe, and its STILL marketed as heavy use… plus personally i have not seen benchmade say a single thing. All they have to do is add a 1/4 inch to the bottom of the blade where the lock sits but they dont care about the safety or needs of their customers. It is just sad
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PenguinsRcool2 said:
I have now owned 2 adamas’s and 1 mini adamas. I love what these knives tried to be. But all 3 of them, had lock failure. The first one i noticed while cutting a plastic band on a pallet of brick at work, i cut through it with some force, as they are hard af to cut, amd the adamas cutting profile isnt good. The blade somehow came out of the lock and clipped the corner of my finger. So i locked it back up and lightly tapped the spine, lock failed again. I returned it to benchmade got credit bought another, knowingly i got it, and battoned a piece of wood for my smoker, this wood i could split with a pencil, its stupid dry and some sort of incredibly weak pine about 2” diameter, lock failed. Sent it back they “fixed it” failed again. Sometime later bought a mini adamas used, guy said he never really used it. I honestly thought it wouldnt fail aftwr about a week of use i was using the spine with the knife open to pry open a bin of hydrualic cement with a plastic paint can cap kinda thing… almost no pressure was put on it, it failed…
Morale of the story this knife series is the worst knife series of all time, perhaps the worst folding knife ever made. Every single person i know or have seen on social media used one, it fails. It isnt safe, and its STILL marketed as heavy use… plus personally i have not seen benchmade say a single thing. All they have to do is add a 1/4 inch to the bottom of the blade where the lock sits but they dont care about the safety or needs of their customers. It is just sad
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PenguinsRcool2 said:
I have now owned 2 adamas’s and 1 mini adamas. I love what these knives tried to be. But all 3 of them, had lock failure. The first one i noticed while cutting a plastic band on a pallet of brick at work, i cut through it with some force, as they are hard af to cut, amd the adamas cutting profile isnt good. The blade somehow came out of the lock and clipped the corner of my finger. So i locked it back up and lightly tapped the spine, lock failed again. I returned it to benchmade got credit bought another, knowingly i got it, and battoned a piece of wood for my smoker, this wood i could split with a pencil, its stupid dry and some sort of incredibly weak pine about 2” diameter, lock failed. Sent it back they “fixed it” failed again. Sometime later bought a mini adamas used, guy said he never really used it. I honestly thought it wouldnt fail aftwr about a week of use i was using the spine with the knife open to pry open a bin of hydrualic cement with a plastic paint can cap kinda thing… almost no pressure was put on it, it failed…
Morale of the story this knife series is the worst knife series of all time, perhaps the worst folding knife ever made. Every single person i know or have seen on social media used one, it fails. It isnt safe, and its STILL marketed as heavy use… plus personally i have not seen benchmade say a single thing. All they have to do is add a 1/4 inch to the bottom of the blade where the lock sits but they dont care about the safety or needs of their customers. It is just sad
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After all that, how do you get a lock to fail while cutting zipties? Was the OP using the BACK OF THE BLADE to cut the zipties?

I'm a reasonably intelligent person, and if a model of knife failed and injured me, I cannot imagine buying another version of it, much less TWO more versions of it.

Why would the OP buy more models of the knife after a single failure? Perhaps there is some dementia going on here?
 
Question........
Are there some jobs best suited to a fix blade over a folding knife?
I've had several folders close on me........some thru my own error of disengaging the lock or the stress of use. So I decided not to try to use a folders at times.
As for The BM Adams I don't own one so I can't address the issues posted.
 
BillZee said:
Question........
Are there some jobs best suited to a fix blade over a folding knife?
I've had several folders close on me........some thru my own error of disengaging the lock or the stress of use. So I decided not to try to use a folders at times.
As for The BM Adams I don't own one so I can't address the issues posted.
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Absolutely. Taking a tool like a knife, saw, etc. and creating a hinge in the middle is done for ease of packaging, certainly not to make it stronger.
 
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