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DrivebyTrucker said:
But I wonder how the blade shape/thickness of the Tyrade performs for bushcraft duty?
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Many years ago, I had a knife noob ask me "What`s the BEST survival knife to have?" To which I replied "That would be whatever knife you have on you when you really *need* a knife". Both my Tyrades and a ZT-0350 are in heavy rotation in my EDC gear, and I would not feel "underknifed" with either of them should I ever be in "survival mode"....
 
Amaranth said:
After getting the Benchmade Vex, and seeing what a dissapointment it was, Benchmade is probably not going to be getting any of my discretionary knife dollars.

The price/value ratio is just not there. I'm just not seeing anything in their lineup that is a must have.
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The Benchmade Vex is a good knife it just might not be for you. It is also a red class and made in china and I would say it is not a good representation of Benchmade. The knife might be a little blocky and bulky and might not have the best fit and finish, but there is nothing wrong with it. Some people really like it and with anything there are going to be those that don't like it. If you had spent a little more and stepped up to the blue class and got a griptilian I'm sure you would have a different opinion of Benchmade. You can't base a whole company on just one of their products that is admittedly a lower end model made in a different country.

I like Spyderco and Kershaw just as much as I do Benchmade. I will also say that my higher end Benchmades (950 Rift, 14205, mini-rukus, mini-skirmish) are just as good as my higher end Spydercos (CF Manix2, CF stretch, Sage 2, CF Caly 3) and cost the same or less than those Spydercos. There are some really great deals on knives out there, but the price of Benchmade knives is right in line for what you get for the same price from other companies.
 
I really have never been a huge fan of Benchmade, ive handled many and they are alright but they have never been something ive wanted to buy, i would rather spend my money somewhere else(spyderco, kershaw)...but thats just me.

As for the question stated, i would look at the salt series of knives by spyderco. Especially if your going to the rain forest. Personally i like the Spyderhawk in h1. its around 70 ish so you could buy that and a fixed blade of some and stay within your price range. Just a thought:D
 
It doesn't bother me much that BM raised their prices. The only BMs I have bought in a long time are the M4 Ritters and they don't seemed to be that much more expensive for what you get.
 
I ordered a blue mini grip 1 day before knifeworks jacked it up to 80$, Scored it for 56$. I'm glad I got one at a good price!! :D
 
BM full size Griptillian at $90 plus shipping bringing it to around $100....NO WAY! At that price it is no longer a good value for what you get.
 
Steven Andrews said:
No, that is an opinion.



Here's a strange thing...not everyone has the same opinion. Some may ask "Who is going to spend $70 or $120 on a liner lock, when you can buy an Axis Lock for $80-90?"
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+1 :thumbup:

It's funny how some people think their opinion is "fact".

If people spent as much time shopping around as they do complaining on the forums they will find that you can still purchase Benchmades for the same price as before. I think Benchmade was probably pressured by struggling Brick and Mortar to implement the MAP policies.

Also there seems to be a misconception floating around that Benchmade has "raised prices". No dealers are still purchasing these knives for the same prices as they were before. MAP stands for Minimum Advertised Price (i.e. Benchmade is not making a single cent more from the MAP policy, dealers are). The dealers can sell these knives for however much they want, but they can't advertise below a certain price. This is where it gets tricky for online dealers because their selling price has to be the same as their advertising price versus a Brick and Mortar store which as soon as they have you in the door they can sell the knife for whatever they want. It seems the online dealers may be able to get around this using coupon codes.
 
Steven Andrews said:
No, that is an opinion.



Here's a strange thing...not everyone has the same opinion. Some may ask "Who is going to spend $70 or $120 on a liner lock, when you can buy an Axis Lock for $80-90?"
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It is an opinion based on actually owning and using several models of both brands, which I doubt you have.
I am also sure you do not know what a Caged Ball Lock is, well it is a better Axis Lock, with less wear, no side play of the Axis bar and smoother action.
And it was designed in-house, contrary to the Axis.
 
tjsulli790 said:
It seems the online dealers may be able to get around this using coupon codes.
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I'd like to know how long that is going to last. That "coupon code" is listed on every BM product on KW's website.
I understand they asked BM and they said it was OK?

If they agreed to that, what is the purpose of implementing a MAP policy? Anyone?
 
LorenzoL said:
It is an opinion based on actually owning and using several models of both brands, which I doubt you have.
I am also sure you do not know what a Caged Ball Lock is, well it is a better Axis Lock, with less wear, no side play of the Axis bar and smoother action.
And it was designed in-house, contrary to the Axis.
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Unbelievable. He doesn't agree with you and rightly points out that what you stated as fact is, in actual fact, personal opinion, and you use the good ol ad hominem, using your opinion :rolleyes: of his level of knowledge, in retort?

Ridiculous. Or maybe I'm just another guy who hasn't used knives by either manufacturer and doesn't know what a caged ball lock is.
 
LorenzoL said:
It is an opinion based on actually owning and using several models of both brands, which I doubt you have.
I am also sure you do not know what a Caged Ball Lock is, well it is a better Axis Lock, with less wear, no side play of the Axis bar and smoother action.
And it was designed in-house, contrary to the Axis.
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There you go slingin' out opinions like they are fact again. And do you think that you are the only person on these boards who has used both Spyderco and Benchmade? My...how sophisticated. And a caged ball bearing lock, why I cannot wrap my feeble mind around the concept and definitely do not know what one is.

You do realize that the ball lock is a copy of the AXIS lock but in a way where they can get around the patents? I don't know what designed in-house has anything to do with anything, but it is easier when you have a blue print to work from. I will say it is MY OPINION that the AXIS lock is better than both the ball bearing lock and the caged ball bearing lock. It is smoother, easier to manipulate, takes up less room, and in my experience just more enjoyable to use. Both the CBB lock and the BB lock are stiff and hard to manipulate and takes 2 fingers and a bunch of force. I can release the AXIS lock with just my thumb. As a knife user I will take the AXIS lock every time. This is all my opinion though as I am sure others will have different experiences. Which is cool and I'm not going to say or imply you do not know what you are talking about and that what you like is not up to par to what I like.
 
I cannot let this one pass: the ball lock is a copy of the Axis?!
So what, then, the Spyderhole is a copy of a missing thumbstud?...
 
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FlaMtnBkr said:
You can't base a whole company on just one of their products that is admittedly a lower end model made in a different country.
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The Axis is my favorite locking mechanism, as it is a truly ambi one-hand open and close lock. I just hope Benchmade finds a good design to wrap around it. A slim EDC (thinner than the Grippys) 3-3.5" flat ground blade in the $80 dollar street price range.

Not trying to be contentious here, but other companies have managed to outsource some of their manufacturing to Taiwan or China and have seen the quality on par with the U.S.

I'm not saying that the Vex is a horrible knife, just that for that level knife I think it could be a little more value priced. Some places are selling it for $28, it's a deal at that price. In fact it locks up pretty solid and there's nothing really WRONG with it.
 
2brothers said:
I'd like to know how long that is going to last. That "coupon code" is listed on every BM product on KW's website.
I understand they asked BM and they said it was OK?

If they agreed to that, what is the purpose of implementing a MAP policy? Anyone?
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To appease non-online dealers? My guess is the majority of online dealers will stick to the MAP policy. Right now this coupon thing is only being used by one dealer. As with most MAP products, there always someone that finds a way around it or people that just don't care (eBay, Amazon, etc.)
 
i havent bought benchmades for about two years now. not a single one interests me anymore, sadly. plus their management makes poor decisions imo like making them less available and more expensive lol...
 
I used to REALLY like Benchmade knifes and have lots in my collection , they lost it in past few years , every knew knife I get from Benchmade I have to take apart and put damn threadlock on every screw before it fell out , ( yes I lost few ) few knifes have steel what wont hold the edge , Dejavoo hade soft liner lock , I had to bend it to make it stronger( love it after that ) , Nitrous Stryker has retarded Nitrous Spring-Assist mechanism that makes a big hole in back of the knife and makes it uncomfortable to hold or use .
sorry , but I never had a knife from Spyderco with loose screw or bad steel , never ! ..
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BTW , my favorite knife still is AFCK 806 :D
 
Aside from some mud slinging, I'll come out and say 11 years ago I thought Spyderco was the bees knees, then I found Benchmade at a gun show, I haven't looked back since.

If we want to talk about random freak occurrences, let's talk about the SPCO rescue and the lock back that had the lock bar snap in half with zero abuse while sitting in a drawer.

We are knife lovers, some like Ferrari, some Bugatti others mini coopers (that's right those case peanut fiends :D )

I have absolutely no intention of not buying more Benchmades if I have the extra money, I have had nothing but great steel quality, excellent customer service and great work out of my BMs. That's just me, if MAP is pushed through to the customers business will drop on all non LE models. Either way for a casual buyer like me a price jump would just mean even longer periods of time between buying another knife that will last a lifetime.

I can't wait to see the new designs this year, with two new designers to boot!
 
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